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Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2007 19:46:

Two massive car bombs found in London

One was parked outside a nightclub near Picadilly Circus.

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LONDON (AP) - Police have closed a major road in central London because of reports of a suspicious vehicle.

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The road closure comes just hours after a bomb squad defused an explosives-laden car in the city's theatre district.


A police spokeswoman says the suspicious vehicle is on Park Lane, on the eastern edge of Hyde Park.


It is unknown if the two incidents are linked.


Police say a 200-metre restriction area has been set up around the vehicle.


Sky News said the vehicle is believed to be an open-topped tourist bus.


"They're just looking at it at the moment," the police spokeswoman said, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with official policy.


She says she doesn't know the whereabouts of the driver.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jun-29-2007 19:49:

Additional proof as to why freedom loving people must keep up the war on terror.

There are bad people in this world who seriously hate freedom and democratic rights and will attempt to intimidate those who are not like them and murder innocents just to spread a message of hate.

Finding explosives like this so close to home should remind us of the necessity to keep up our diligent effort to weaken and remove the world of organized terrorism.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Jun-29-2007 19:52:

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Police have confirmed that not one, but two massive car bombs were set to explode in the heart of London's West End.
The first, in Haymarket, was defused after police were alerted by an ambulance crew called to an incident at a nearby nightclub.
The second was in a car that was illegally parked nearby and towed to the Park Lane car pound.
Staff there alerted police because "it smelled of gas."

Sky News sources say one of the first police officers on the scene of the Haymarket car bomb may have saved dozens of lives by defusing the explosives before the bomb squad arrived.

It is believed the quick-thinking cop recognised that the car was wired to blow up, jumped in and disconnected the trigger device, thought to be a mobile phone.

The device, which contained 60 litres of petrol, a large amount of nails and several gas canisters, was found in the Mercedes early this morning.

Police had received reports of a suspicious vehicle close to the Tiger Tiger nightclub in Piccadilly shortly before 2am.

An ambulance crew, who treated a person in the club in an unrelated incident, reported that there was smoke inside the car.

The second device is believed to have been found by police in a blue hybrid Mercedes that was illegally parked in the West End and was towed away to the Park Lane car pound in the early hours of the morning.

Forensic officers and bomb disposal teams spent several hours examining the car.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said the UK is "currently facing the most serious and sustained threat" and authorities are doing everything they can to protect the public.

Police believe they have foiled a major terror attack and said if the Haymarket bomb had gone off it could have caused "significant injury or loss of life".

The timing coincided with hundreds of revellers leaving nightspots, but police said there was no intelligence to suggest such an attack.

The area was cordoned off by officers who examined the metallic green car, outside an American Express foreign exchange, and then discovered the device.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism command, paid tribute to those who manually defused it, saying they had not only saved lives but gave forensic officers the opportunity to gather a substantial amount of material.

He said it was too early to speculate about who was involved, and called on the public to remain vigilant.

Officers have appealed for witnesses who may have seen anything suspicious in the Haymarket area last night and early this morning. The number is 0800 789 321.

Extra police patrols are taking place across London following the incident.

Whitehall sources said that the police and security services are looking at possible international links - including similarities to car bombs used by insurgents in Iraq.

Mr Brown said the incident reminds us that Britain faces "a serious and continuous threat" and the public "need to be alert" at all times.
Device found in Haymarket
Device found in Haymarket

The Haymarket is in the heart of London's theatreland, which is packed with thousands of people through most of the day and night.

Police have begun an investigation and the suspect vehicle was removed from the scene for detailed forensic examinations.

Detectives will be looking at CCTV footage from the area surrounding the Haymarket and interviewing witnesses, including staff from the nightclub.

Congestion charge cameras, which recognise number plates and run 24 hours a day, will be able to track the route of the vehicle into the capital.

Former head of the Flying Squad John O'Connor said the attacker had most probably "bottled it" and was likely to be a homegrown terrorist.

There has been major traffic disruption to the area, with several roads shut, along with Piccadilly Circus Tube station.

The Home Secretary chaired an emergency Cobra meeting about the terror scare and then briefed the Cabinet.

Enhanced security measures have been put in place at the Houses of Westminster in the wake of the incident.

The discovery of the car bomb comes just under two years since suicide attacks killed 52 people in the capital.

Another 784 were injured when four bombs exploded on London's transport network on July 7, 2005.


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Posted by infinity HiGH on Jun-29-2007 20:03:

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Additional proof as to why freedom loving people must keep up the war on terror.

There are bad people in this world who seriously hate freedom and democratic rights and will attempt to intimidate those who are not like them and murder innocents just to spread a message of hate.

Finding explosives like this so close to home should remind us of the necessity to keep up our diligent effort to weaken and remove the world of organized terrorism.


It goes a little deeper than just hate for "freedom" and "democractic rights". There's lots of evil people in this world on both sides who aren't helping our futile quest for peace.


Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2007 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
It goes a little deeper than just "freedom" and hate for "democractic rights".

Good (well, supposedly good) vs Evil?

Because I don't see single good principle/trait/characteristic in islamic fundamentalist movement.

Not saying Western supposedly democracies are completely in the right, but compared to these loonies... *shrug*


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jun-29-2007 20:11:

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Originally posted by EvilTree
Good (well, supposedly good) vs Evil?

Because I don't see single good principle/trait/characteristic in islamic fundamentalist movement.

Not saying Western supposedly democracies are completely in the right, but compared to these loonies... *shrug*


Good vs Evil? Isn't that what it is now? America and the Coalition of the "Free" World vs. Satan's minions?

Not that I'm trying to justify the killing of innocent people, because I'm not, but it goes deeper than just hate. People aren't born terrorists.

edit And unless I missed it, it doesn't even say who was responsible for this.


Posted by activate on Jun-29-2007 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Finding explosives like this so close to home should remind us of the necessity to keep up our diligent effort to weaken and remove the world of organized terrorism.




um... England ain't close to Canada.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jun-29-2007 20:17:

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Originally posted by activate
um... England ain't close to Canada.


Thanks Mr. Literal...

It certainly is close to us in similarity (with respect to freedom, democracy and way of life).


Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2007 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Good vs Evil? Isn't that what it is now? America and the Coalition of the "Free" World vs. Satan's minions?

What is it then?
Not that I'm a big fan of American foreign policy, but compared to AQ. Taliban and most of the terrorist irk, Yanks are way better than these guys.
quote:

Not that I'm trying to justify the killing of innocent people, because I'm not, but it goes deeper than just hate. People aren't born terrorists.

I agree that these people may have legit grievances. What makes them bad is the way they want to resolve their problems.


Posted by DigiNut on Jun-29-2007 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Additional proof as to why freedom loving people must keep up the war on terror.

Silly RJ, you know it's all Israel's fault. CNN said so.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jun-29-2007 20:32:

Re: Two massive car bombs found in London

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
One was parked outside a nightclub near Picadilly Circus.


Whoa. I konw this isnt the one in Toronto, but teh second I saw "Picadilly Circus" and "bombs" mentioned in the title, I got really concerned.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jun-29-2007 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
What is it then?
Not that I'm a big fan of American foreign policy, but compared to AQ. Taliban and most of the terrorist irk, Yanks are way better than these guys.

I agree that these people may have legit grievances. What makes them bad is the way they want to resolve their problems.


Well these people are obviously pushed beyond the edge when they align themselves with such beliefs. Some don't know any better. There's definitely an element of madness involved with some, for others it's purely a clash of cultures of civilizations. America isn't really helping curb the hate, or their image,r with their actions.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jun-29-2007 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Silly RJ, you know it's all Israel's fault. CNN said so.


lol radicalism has been around long before Israel.


Posted by Abercrombie on Jun-29-2007 20:47:

Al-Qu'aida still has not removed Canada from their target list.


Posted by DigiNut on Jun-29-2007 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
lol radicalism has been around long before Israel.



Edit: Yeah, I didn't like the first picture. Sue me.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jun-29-2007 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut


Edit: Yeah, I didn't like the first picture. Sue me.



Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2007 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Well these people are obviously pushed beyond the edge when they align themselves with such beliefs. Some don't know any better. There's definitely an element of madness involved with some, for others it's purely a clash of cultures of civilizations. America isn't really helping curb the hate, or their image,r with their actions.

I know you don't condone their actions, but all their perceived grievances do not legitimize the methods and actions that they use.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jun-29-2007 21:13:

Justifying something, and understanding why it happens are 2 different things.

And didn't you say in your previous post that "these people may have legitimate grievances"


Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2007 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
And didn't you say in your previous post that "these people may have legitimate grievances"

Yeah. Hence why I said 'may', b/c just like you, I can see why they may be pissed off.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jun-29-2007 21:22:

I've always been a firm believer that there's 2 sides to every story. These people may seem like monsters to us, but to a lot of people they may be hero's (as the saying goes "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist").


Posted by Tordan on Jun-29-2007 21:27:

why do you guys look at it as good vs. evil, isn't it more the haves vs the have-nots?


Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2007 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I've always been a firm believer that there's 2 sides to every story. These people may seem like monsters to us, but to a lot of people they may be hero's (as the saying goes "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist").

So?

Just because Stalin thought Hitler was a suave dude, that doesn't make Hitler cool.

A man should be judged by his actions and deeds, not what others think of him. (well if you don't know the dude)


Posted by Cro_Addict on Jun-29-2007 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
These people may seem like monsters to us, but to a lot of people they may be hero's (as the saying goes "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist").


Do you feel the same way about the suicide bombers, because they ARE heros to some....I don't think that quote means very much.


Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2007 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Tordan
why do you guys look at it as good vs. evil, isn't it more the haves vs the have-nots?

No. Considering these terrorist types have access to resources to make themselves as prosperous as anyone in the world.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-29-2007 21:36:



Ministry of Sound nightclub was targeted in 2004 according to some reports

http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/230858


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