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Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-16-2002 04:03:

Are these DJs considered UPLIFTING??

i know Tiesto and Ferry and AVB and Gielen etc are Uplifting trance DJs...

but are Marco V and Mauro Picotto and Blank & Jones also considered "UPLIFTING"...i consider uplifting to be kinda softer style of trance like what Tiesto and Rank 1 play...but these other DJs seem to play harder trance...not real hard..but different enough for me to question if its still uplifting...

would this be right:

UPLIFTING = Tiesto, Rank 1, Ferry, AVB, Johan Gielen, Cor Fijneman, DJ Astrid

then i would consider these DJs harder but not HARD trance...jus a tad above uplifting = Blank & Jones, Talla 2xlc, Marco V, Mauro Picotto, Dumonde....

i am not saying they are Hard Trance DJs but jus a little harder then uplifting...am i wrong...what do u think?????


Posted by gho on Apr-16-2002 04:24:

I think that Ti�sto is the most uplifting I can imagine. Nothing could ever be better than the "Magik" series or that first Innercity set. In that matter I think that he defined the style. Rank 1 is definitely uplifting like in the "awakening" song like AVB can be but I have some really hard sets he played, much like PVD. But to synthesize, nothing equals Tiesto in this matter.


Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-16-2002 04:26:

ok so if Tiesto is uplifting what are the others considered???


Posted by wookieslut on Apr-16-2002 04:32:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
ok so if Tiesto is uplifting what are the others considered???


i think blank and jones is very uplifting and so is pvd and avb. tiesto has been playing some crappy shit as of late and has tended to stray away from good ol uplifting trance. (cept southern sun)


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-16-2002 04:52:

The only true uplifting DJ you named there is Johan Gielen, I think. I just saw AvB this saturday, and he's more of a uplifting/progressive trance DJ now. Same with Corsten and Tiesto from what I've been hearing. Blank & Jones? Hehe, they play commercial tunes, and once in a while, an uplifting track. They dont' really have a defined style, I think, they just play the "sick" beats

Marco V, Talla, and Dumonde...hard uplifting. They tend to play tunes that follower a similar formula to uplifting (beat, braek down, build up, next, repeat) but with a more thumping beat, and not as epic synths.

Mauro...I've never really heard this guy, but I doubt he's hard trance...more like techno, methinks.

And PvD isn't an uplifting DJ...He plays everything...bangin trance and prog..techno...whatever...he's an electronic music dj...hehe. A while ago I had a set by him, he started his set off with a break beat tune...


Posted by Taub on Apr-16-2002 05:24:

Mauro is techno now


Posted by wookieslut on Apr-16-2002 05:51:

And PvD isn't an uplifting DJ...no offence man, but thats just stupid, thinking he is. [/QUOTE]

im not pidgeon holing him into just being uplifting but he certainly does have his sets where he plays some massive anthems man. dont call me stupid, bitch.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-16-2002 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by wookieslut
im not pidgeon holing him into just being uplifting but he certainly does have his sets where he plays some massive anthems man. dont call me stupid, bitch.


Hey, sorry...I just edited that right before you posted it. sorry bro, You're not stupid. I shouldn't have said that...

Yes, he does play massive anthems...but thats the beauty of PvD, he drops a few massive uplifters in a 2 hour set, and a bunch of other styles as well. He's not like Gielen where its uplifter after uplifter after uplifter. They're few, and far in between in his sets, and thats what makes the set so much better. You get into it, and then after 30 or so minutes, he drops a huge anthem, and it just makes it so much more rewarding.


Posted by Biohazard on Apr-16-2002 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by wookieslut


i think blank and jones is very uplifting and so is pvd and avb. tiesto has been playing some crappy shit as of late and has tended to stray away from good ol uplifting trance. (cept southern sun)


no thats not true he plays very uplifting, just not the high NRG dumonde or gielen type of stuff but still quite uplifting, just as scot bond and hardwick tend to do.

People say he is turing progressive, thats not really true. I have never seen a set/CD of him which was progressive, in fact I think that magik 7 is one of the must uplifting and energetic CD I ever bought.

Its true that tiesto doesn't spin the 99 type trance, but saying that he doesn't play uplifting isn't true.

and blank Jones are good producers but spin pertty cheesy, check the rosenmontags set from last year where they dared to play Operation blade and barthezz Im happy that they are doing better these days days


Posted by wookieslut on Apr-16-2002 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Biohazard


no thats not true he plays very uplifting, just not the high NRG dumonde or gielen type of stuff but still quite uplifting, just as scot bond and hardwick tend to do.

People say he is turing progressive, thats not really true. I have never seen a set/CD of him which was progressive, in fact I think that magik 7 is one of the must uplifting and energetic CD I ever bought.

Its true that tiesto doesn't spin the 99 type trance, but saying that he doesn't play uplifting isn't true.

and blank Jones are good producers but spin pertty cheesy, check the rosenmontags set from last year where they dared to play Operation blade and barthezz Im happy that they are doing better these days days


Blank and Jones Top 10 April 2002



Pos. Titel Label

01 Project Medusa vs Exor
- Moonshine
(Remix)

02 Svenson & Gielen
- We Know What You Did

03 Pet Shop Boys
- Home And Dry
(Blank & Jones Dub Remix)

04 Push
- Trancy State Of Mind

05 Blank & Jones
- Closer To The Edge
(Album Track from Substance)


06 Phrenetic System
- Transformer


07 Agnelli & Nelson
- Every Day 2002
(Alex Gold Remix)


08 Hemstock & Jennings
- Mirage
(Lange Remix)


09 DJ Albert vs. Precision
- Say Yes
(Katana Remix)


10 Fragma
- Embrace Me
(Wippenberg Remix)



thats some prety fuking good uplifting trance man! maybe the only cheese on there is the fragma tune but thats cause its number 10


Posted by Cream21 on Apr-16-2002 08:37:

quote:

and blank Jones are good producers but spin pertty cheesy, check the rosenmontags set from last year where they dared to play Operation blade and barthezz Im happy that they are doing better these days days


Hehe that was just the last 30 minutes of a 4 hour set! You don't know what they spined befor!


Posted by Dave_Masters on Apr-16-2002 08:53:

Mauro Picotto - Trance?

I think not!

Well his productions are often trancey, But he doesnt mix any of this,
He plays fucked up weird techno, more bangin than the adult channel and Television X put together!


Posted by Adjacent_raver on Apr-16-2002 10:01:

Picotto's style = DIRTY

the way music is meant to be


Posted by Narcissus on Apr-16-2002 10:58:

Mauro Picotto - Proximus = uplifting trance!


Posted by netroM on Apr-16-2002 12:49:

IMO Mauro Picotto is uplifting and techno 2gether
but tiesto, rank1, ferry and ATB.....
and mayb sum of the others u've listed that i've never heard.... r quite uplifting
AvB is IMO quite Hard Trance


Posted by _Nut_ on Apr-16-2002 15:32:

Hmmmmm

quote:
Originally posted by netroM
IMO Mauro Picotto is uplifting and techno 2gether
but tiesto, rank1, ferry and ATB.....
and mayb sum of the others u've listed that i've never heard.... r quite uplifting
AvB is IMO quite Hard Trance


I disagree on your mauro and armin ideas. I have about 10 vinyl from BxR that are of Picotto himself. Nothing uplifting in there. You dont think Armin is uplifting?? Have you heard Boundries of the Imagination? I still see all of his stuff as uplifting to semihard uplifting. Not straight up trance. remember he is rising star/perpetuous dreamer and so many others. There is no way some one can say that startheme is not uplifting. I love spinning that now!!!

~Sam


Posted by kr00t0n on Apr-16-2002 16:10:

Now here's something that has been bothering me for a while.

Hard Trance is apparently to diffeerent styles according to conflicting views.

Some say that the harder trance stuff out there (Dumonde) is Hard Trance.

Others say the hard house/techno area with trancey samples (Nick Sentience) is Hard Trance.

I refer to Hard Trance leaning more to the hard house style of things.

I class Dumonde and other such artists to be Epic Uplifting Trance.

Just my opinion.

Whadda ya think?
kr00t0n


Posted by Renegade on Apr-16-2002 16:40:

Let's stop being so anal about genre classifications.

The word "uplifting" is a term used to describe a particular piece of music, and isn't really a genre in itself. It can be as easily applied to a Mauro Picotto set or a Dumonde set as to a Tiesto set. It's about the nature of the music, not the exact form the music itself takes.

So long as you know what trance music is, more or less, you can add as many qualifying terms to the front as you like. Uplifting trance simply describes a piece of trance that the listener finds uplifting, but it doesn't mean that it should be placed in a genre all on its own. Hard trance can be uplifting as can tech-trance, prog-trance, goa-trance or even house or techno music.

Just please stop being so obsessive about pidgeon-holing every sound into a particular genre with inexorable exactness and just enjoy the music for what it is.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-16-2002 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Just please stop being so obsessive about pidgeon-holing every sound into a particular genre with inexorable exactness and just enjoy the music for what it is.


thats the problem with today...we have to classify EVERYTHING into a certain group.


Posted by kr00t0n on Apr-16-2002 19:55:

I've found that the reason everyone tries to classify all the genres, is so that we all know exactly what we mean when we say something.

So often I've heard of people saying that they like a certain genre, and I invite them to a party that is of that genre (from my perspective) and it turned out that their view of that genre was different.

I guess its just a way for us to try and simplify the communication of our love for the music.

Cheerz
kr00t0n


Posted by torontotrance on Apr-16-2002 20:10:

Smile

ATB = RUBBISH

Besides that....i frankly don't care what ppl label deejays because uplifting, epic, hard trance, melodic..so on....i like the deejay or i don't. Genres are like labels......i don't like to label deejay because a deejay who plays epic could one day start playing prog trance, so who knows.


Posted by keke on Apr-16-2002 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Let's stop being so anal about genre classifications.

The word "uplifting" is a term used to describe a particular piece of music, and isn't really a genre in itself. It can be as easily applied to a Mauro Picotto set or a Dumonde set as to a Tiesto set. It's about the nature of the music, not the exact form the music itself takes.

So long as you know what trance music is, more or less, you can add as many qualifying terms to the front as you like. Uplifting trance simply describes a piece of trance that the listener finds uplifting, but it doesn't mean that it should be placed in a genre all on its own. Hard trance can be uplifting as can tech-trance, prog-trance, goa-trance or even house or techno music.

Just please stop being so obsessive about pidgeon-holing every sound into a particular genre with inexorable exactness and just enjoy the music for what it is.


Sorry!! NO !!

I love to classify the genre ! Espacially the tunes i love


Posted by wookieslut on Apr-16-2002 21:22:

by not classyfying the genres you give no credit to the particular expertise of a certain artist...do you think ferry corsten or armin van buuren or paul van dyk (as producers not djs) would be happy if everyone decided to ignore genres and classify all trance as "elcectronic music?" I understand how it becomes annoying when people try to categorize music since the genres tend to become so percise that they are difficult to follow. But, its necessary to categorize so that we know what exactly people like. I like trance, trance is a form of electronic music and techno is a form of electronic music, but i dont necessarily like techno as much as trance. Do you see what i mean?


Posted by PSYDEK on Apr-16-2002 22:06:

I think Mauro Piccoto"s style is considered more into hard house...Than trance or techno...


Posted by Eugene on Apr-16-2002 22:09:

come on people...
seems like whatever DJ's people here like best, they label them as "uplifting."

In truth you can label anything "uplifting," more or less.

I would say that Armin van Buuren is an uplifting DJ. Tiesto no longer plays melodic anthems, so I wouldn't include Tiesto in that list. Paul van Dyk? I don't think so, his music is hypnotic but not uplifting in the sense that Armin van Buuren's is, for example.

Blank & Jones are VERY uplifting DJ's, and songwriters as well. Listen to something like "Beyond Time," or their "Trance Mix USA 2" CD. The definition of uplifting...


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