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Posted by DiscoStew on Jul-22-2007 22:29:

Be Cool! Recording a mix at a gig

I generally use a minidisc player to record my mixes when i'm at a gig, but the ones that I've seen generally have a 90-minute limit. What do you guys use to record your longer mixes (4+ hours)? I'm trying to avoid having to bring a laptop to record on.


Posted by Freak on Jul-22-2007 23:21:

Always use NetMD minidisc on longplay4 mode.

6 hours ish if i remember correctly


Posted by DjWoody on Jul-23-2007 02:03:

I use my laptop. Since I'm mixing with Serato, I might as well take advantage and record directly into my laptop. :-D


Posted by DiscoStew on Jul-23-2007 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
Always use NetMD minidisc on longplay4 mode.

6 hours ish if i remember correctly



What is the audio quality on that like?


Posted by Yohan on Jul-23-2007 02:51:

ikey gemini.

limit is how big of an usb flash drive you use


Posted by DiscoStew on Jul-23-2007 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
ikey gemini.

limit is how big of an usb flash drive you use


I just googled that thing and it looks PERFECT!!! Thank a ton EvilTree!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jul-23-2007 03:24:

make a mental note that doing so is actually illegal in many countries. you'll prob never ever get caught, but just so you know


Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-23-2007 17:28:

The ikey is not bad, but it's kinda cheap and the interface isn't fantastic.

If you can spend a few more bucks, look at the M-Audio microtrack as well. Under $300 if you find the right place:
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...k2496-main.html


quote:
Originally posted by DJChrisB
I just googled that thing and it looks PERFECT!!! Thank a ton EvilTree!


Posted by DiscoStew on Jul-23-2007 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
The ikey is not bad, but it's kinda cheap and the interface isn't fantastic.

If you can spend a few more bucks, look at the M-Audio microtrack as well. Under $300 if you find the right place:
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_...k2496-main.html


Ooooo. That thing looks f*ing sweet. Pretty reasonably priced on eBay too. Thanks!


Posted by Stassi on Jul-23-2007 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
I use my laptop. Since I'm mixing with Serato, I might as well take advantage and record directly into my laptop. :-D

arent you worried about the laptop crashing?
also.. what software do you record with?


Posted by DjWoody on Jul-23-2007 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
arent you worried about the laptop crashing?
also.. what software do you record with?


Nope! I'm on a Mac. I use Audio Hijack to record. The cool thing about it is that it saves as it's recording. So if my Mac crashes, my recording will be saved up until the crash.



Posted by Stassi on Jul-23-2007 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
Nope! I'm on a Mac. I use Audio Hijack to record. The cool thing about it is that it saves as it's recording. So if my Mac crashes, my recording will be saved up until the crash.



sweet cause im using a macbook, audio hijack you recommend eh?
It's only happened once where serato has crashed, but the music continued playing so i mixed into a proper vinyl track and rebooted, it was seamless.


Posted by Zild on Jul-23-2007 21:08:

You always have to worry about a crash which is why you bring records or CDs with you just in case.


Posted by Allayla on Jul-23-2007 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
ikey gemini.

limit is how big of an usb flash drive you use

would i be able to get good quality recordings with this unit, for just recording mixes at home? (no laptop)

would i need anything else?


Posted by Yohan on Jul-24-2007 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by starboy
would i be able to get good quality recordings with this unit, for just recording mixes at home? (no laptop)

would i need anything else?

You can set the bitrate to record. (I have the plus version which has choice between 128kps to wav)
You'll need an usb flash drive (or other usb storage device) to hook up to the recording device.


Posted by skip on Jul-24-2007 10:01:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
You can set the bitrate to record. (I have the plus version which has choice between 128kps to wav)
You'll need an usb flash drive (or other usb storage device) to hook up to the recording device.



i've read that it does have some quality issues though, some clicking in the background or something like that.
i too would like to find some decent way of recording my sets easily and cheap with proper quality (my computer is abour 25 meters away from my mixer so unbalanced connection between these two won't work).


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-24-2007 12:19:

Why not just record straight in to your ipod?.......



IPOD RECORDING


Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-24-2007 14:15:

Umm... You DO realize that requires erasing the firmware and installing iPodLinux on your iPod? That's way beyond the abilities of most users, and requires they make a custom connector...

I would gladly pay for a recorder rather than be bothered with that. But if you're a big geek and don't mind potentially ruining your iPod, go for it

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Why not just record straight in to your ipod?.......



IPOD RECORDING


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-24-2007 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Umm... You DO realize that requires erasing the firmware and installing iPodLinux on your iPod? That's way beyond the abilities of most users, and requires they make a custom connector...

I would gladly pay for a recorder rather than be bothered with that. But if you're a big geek and don't mind potentially ruining your iPod, go for it



It's not actually that difficult - the installer takes care of the set up and normally you have to use it with Itunes anyway so you won't loose any data, as it's already on your computer.

The only thing to really look out for is which generation/model of ipod you have, as some are more tricky than others (or simply won't allow it).

A cool think about going linux is that you can really use your ipod for storing any data you want, so it basically it becomes a normal, very portable external hard drive that doubles as an MP3 player.

The custom connector might be a challenge for noobs, but it really is beginner stuff IMO.

But yes, I suppose there is still a chance of something going wrong, but I'd still prefer that to go wrong than have some munter feed my laptop some beer.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-24-2007 15:25:

You've been able to use any iPod as an external drive all along, since the very first model.

In the latest iTunes, you simply click the "enable disk use" checkbox.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
It's not actually that difficult - the installer takes care of the set up and normally you have to use it with Itunes anyway so you won't loose any data, as it's already on your computer.

The only thing to really look out for is which generation/model of ipod you have, as some are more tricky than others (or simply won't allow it).

A cool think about going linux is that you can really use your ipod for storing any data you want, so it basically it becomes a normal, very portable external hard drive that doubles as an MP3 player.

The custom connector might be a challenge for noobs, but it really is beginner stuff IMO.

But yes, I suppose there is still a chance of something going wrong, but I'd still prefer that to go wrong than have some munter feed my laptop some beer.


Posted by Allayla on Jul-24-2007 16:46:

well i dont have an ipod, or a laptop and i really need to start recording my mixes.. anyone have any expierience with the better quality recording device?


Posted by Yohan on Jul-24-2007 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
i've read that it does have some quality issues though, some clicking in the background or something like that.
i too would like to find some decent way of recording my sets easily and cheap with proper quality (my computer is abour 25 meters away from my mixer so unbalanced connection between these two won't work).

Never had that problem.

Only reason I can think of something like that happening is clipping during recording when recording device isn't adjusted for distortion


Posted by skip on Jul-24-2007 17:40:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Never had that problem.

Only reason I can think of something like that happening is clipping during recording when recording device isn't adjusted for distortion



apparently it's not very loud at all, so it's not easy to hear if there's something playing. i just remember reading about some tests someone made on some review of the ikey when i was thinking about maybe buying one. recording silence and then checking the waveform and amplifying it or something like that.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Jul-24-2007 17:50:

The m-audio device is well reviewed and recommended.

The iKey seems sketchy to me. Very little information, no display, so you have to "trust" it's recording. And it's big and bulky with external storage. Seems non-ideal for DJ's.

But it's cheap.

quote:
Originally posted by starboy
well i dont have an ipod, or a laptop and i really need to start recording my mixes.. anyone have any expierience with the better quality recording device?


Posted by Allayla on Jul-24-2007 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
The m-audio device is well reviewed and recommended.

The iKey seems sketchy to me. Very little information, no display, so you have to "trust" it's recording. And it's big and bulky with external storage. Seems non-ideal for DJ's.

But it's cheap.

thanks for the response, i think im gonna try it out as i can't afford a laptop atm, if anyone else has heard anything about the m-audio please let me know..


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