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Posted by pete242 on Oct-02-2007 16:09:

CRIA blocks Canadian ISP from demonoid

Ok what is happening out there? if any of you are Torrent downloaders I have the worst news to report today in case no one knows, if you go to their site this is what appears now:

"We received a letter from a lawyer represeting the CRIA, they were threatening with legal action and We need to start blocking Canadian traffic because of this. If you reside in Canada, that is the reason you are being redirected to this message. Thanks for your understanding, and sorry for any inconvenience."

normally I am diplomatic in my responses, but this is total BS.
Thoughts?


Posted by SkyHigh on Oct-02-2007 16:12:

It was bound to happen sooner or later


Posted by pete242 on Oct-02-2007 16:16:

especially since the servers are in Canada, makes it easier for them to get nailed. I bet the next step is they completely shut it down cause then the RIAA will start assisting. Might be highly unlikely but you know what these expired tycoons are like.


Posted by exstasie on Oct-02-2007 16:24:

...

That's why you use a private Torrent tracker.

Simple as that.


PS.


Can someone help me get a "scene torrent" invite? I can help you out on several other sites if you need.

Thanks.


Posted by pete242 on Oct-02-2007 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
...

That's why you use a private Torrent tracker.

Simple as that.


PS.


Can someone help me get a "scene torrent" invite? I can help you out on several other sites if you need.

Thanks.


I think I registered on that site awhile ago, lemme see if I have any invites, oh if you could pass me some info on the private trackers that'd be great too, you can PM me if you choose. Thanks


Posted by Orko on Oct-02-2007 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
...

That's why you use a private Torrent tracker.

Simple as that.


You used to have to be a member to download, but they opened up new torrents to the public a few weeks ago, which was probably their downfall.


I know they are blocking traffic to their site, but I', not sure if they are also blocking CDN traffic to their trackers. Best bet would be to find their torrents listed on another site, and try it out.

I will miss them, but alas, this is torrenting and we should be able to roll with the punches.


Posted by exstasie on Oct-02-2007 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by pete242
I think I registered on that site awhile ago, lemme see if I have any invites, oh if you could pass me some info on the private trackers that'd be great too, you can PM me if you choose. Thanks


kk, i'll PM you later about stuff.

But essentially since it's a private tracker organisations and law enforcements can't really do anything since its hosted on a private server.

Not to mention that Private trackers have everything before its released.

let's just say I had Halo 3 four days before it was released in stores. (PS. The game kinda sucks).


Posted by Orko on Oct-02-2007 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
But essentially since it's a private tracker organisations and law enforcements can't really do anything since its hosted on a private server.


That's not true at all. The reason private sites are usually less likely to be taken down is because:

1) They have fewer people accessing the site, so the mass appeal effect does not take place. The RIAA/CRIA want to shut down the sites with the most traffic.

2) It's much easier to control who has access to your site, and who has access to your trackers. If the site admins find out a specific user is from an organization, they can block the IP and user from accessing the site again.

3) It does not matter if your users are public or private, if you violate the terms of your agreement with your ISP, you can loose your hosting privilages. The reason most torrent sites stay up is because the ISP's don't care until a lobby group like the RIAA puts pressure on them. Until then, they are happy hosting a company that will pay them ass loads for traffic.


Posted by chinamon on Oct-02-2007 16:58:

since we are on the topic of torrents maybe someone can help me out with a problem im having.

i am on rogers and i am having problems with seeding on one torrent site (private site). it says it is seeding and doesnt give me the red dot thing but it goes at liek 1KB/s but when i use public torrents i am able to maxx my upstrea at close to 100KB/s. its not my nat/firewall because i set this IP as dmz.


Posted by devnull on Oct-02-2007 17:07:

torrents are for n00bs

get the data at the source!


Posted by chinamon on Oct-02-2007 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by devnull
torrents are for n00bs

get the data at the source!


i would if i still had access to dump sites with leech


Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-02-2007 17:21:

Re: CRIA blocks Canadian ISP from demonoid

quote:
Originally posted by pete242
Ok what is happening out there? if any of you are Torrent downloaders I have the worst news to report today in case no one knows, if you go to their site this is what appears now:

"We received a letter from a lawyer represeting the CRIA, they were threatening with legal action and We need to start blocking Canadian traffic because of this. If you reside in Canada, that is the reason you are being redirected to this message. Thanks for your understanding, and sorry for any inconvenience."

normally I am diplomatic in my responses, but this is total BS.
Thoughts?


If they put the message up by your Canadian IP address, then simply use a public proxy from another country, and your problem is solved.


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Oct-02-2007 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
That's not true at all. The reason private sites are usually less likely to be taken down is because:

1) They have fewer people accessing the site, so the mass appeal effect does not take place. The RIAA/CRIA want to shut down the sites with the most traffic.

2) It's much easier to control who has access to your site, and who has access to your trackers. If the site admins find out a specific user is from an organization, they can block the IP and user from accessing the site again.

3) It does not matter if your users are public or private, if you violate the terms of your agreement with your ISP, you can loose your hosting privilages. The reason most torrent sites stay up is because the ISP's don't care until a lobby group like the RIAA puts pressure on them. Until then, they are happy hosting a company that will pay them ass loads for traffic.


Yep.


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-02-2007 21:06:

good!

start paying for your shit...



(ducks)


Posted by rabbitjoker on Oct-02-2007 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
(ducks)


Goose!


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-02-2007 23:18:

Torrents, pfft. It's all about RS now. I'd just love to see CRIA start whining to the EU about it.


Posted by Kytracid on Oct-03-2007 02:35:

It's been about RS for a while now.


Posted by Platipus on Oct-03-2007 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
since we are on the topic of torrents maybe someone can help me out with a problem im having.

i am on rogers and i am having problems with seeding on one torrent site (private site). it says it is seeding and doesnt give me the red dot thing but it goes at liek 1KB/s but when i use public torrents i am able to maxx my upstrea at close to 100KB/s. its not my nat/firewall because i set this IP as dmz.


some private trackers require you to disable DHT. check your settings. you can disable it per file through the properties option.


Posted by Mach X on Oct-03-2007 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
since we are on the topic of torrents maybe someone can help me out with a problem im having.

i am on rogers and i am having problems with seeding on one torrent site (private site). it says it is seeding and doesnt give me the red dot thing but it goes at liek 1KB/s but when i use public torrents i am able to maxx my upstrea at close to 100KB/s. its not my nat/firewall because i set this IP as dmz.


Usually for private torrent sites (i've noticed) it's a case of properly configuring your port forwarding and triggering. You gotta mess around in your router settings. Hit me on MSN and i'll sort you out.. had a huge problem with not seeding on Oink, my ratio went to piss...

I'm golden on torrentleech tho, Ratio: 1.197 Uploaded: 56.16 GB Downloaded: 46.92 GB Slots: Unlimited slots


Posted by chinamon on Oct-03-2007 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mach X
Usually for private torrent sites (i've noticed) it's a case of properly configuring your port forwarding and triggering. You gotta mess around in your router settings. Hit me on MSN and i'll sort you out.. had a huge problem with not seeding on Oink, my ratio went to piss...

I'm golden on torrentleech tho, Ratio: 1.197 Uploaded: 56.16 GB Downloaded: 46.92 GB Slots: Unlimited slots


like i said in my original post, my local IP for this computer is set to dmz which doesnt require port forwarding.


Posted by exstasie on Oct-03-2007 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mach X
Usually for private torrent sites (i've noticed) it's a case of properly configuring your port forwarding and triggering. You gotta mess around in your router settings. Hit me on MSN and i'll sort you out.. had a huge problem with not seeding on Oink, my ratio went to piss...

I'm golden on torrentleech tho, Ratio: 1.197 Uploaded: 56.16 GB Downloaded: 46.92 GB Slots: Unlimited slots



Take this:

Ratio: 1.743 Uploaded: 103.09 GB Downloaded: 59.15 GB Slots: Unlimited slots


I'm out. PS. 75% of that was on my neighbours internet connection. Oops! Don't forget to encrypt your network. Night!


Posted by zoogla on Oct-03-2007 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I'm out. PS. 75% of that was on my neighbours internet connection. Oops! Don't forget to encrypt your network. Night!

AWESOME!


Posted by monishb on Oct-03-2007 06:13:

oh crap!

anyone have a invite for torrent leech if they can PM it to me would be great!


Posted by Atho on Oct-03-2007 06:40:

ditto to the last 2 posts...


Posted by monishb on Oct-03-2007 14:21:

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