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What do you think about progressive psy ?
Hi all, I've been months away from this board, not because I don't like them (since I was introduced to trance by this board), but because I'm one tranceaddict not feeling good about the current state of trance.
In my journey I found myself involved in psytrance, but more lately in progressive psy, or progressive trance that sounds a bit psychedelic to be more accurate, and I've found much of what I've loved of trance there, lots of magical dreamy sounds.
So what do you guys think about it ???
My favorites are Vibrasphere (of course), Ovnimoon, Sun Control Species, Freq and last but not least ATMOS, he produces music that's very hard to define, ecclectic would be a good word.
PD: If you don't know these guys I'll post some youtube vids for you.
A sizeable fraction of TAs think it's the inheritor to the trance crown, but I never really connected with progressive psy. Too smooth, not nearly as distinctive as plain progressive in its best years, and nowhere the bite of 90s psychedelic.
Some good material, no doubt, but it never quite reached the bar of greatness for me.
today when trance is either fullblown cheese fest ala Armin and Paul van Dyk or boring electro reincarnations, prog psy remains probably the last type of trance with some dignity.
There are lots of good producers out there but I am a bit dissapointed that some of them have gone for a more electro sound (Antix for instance). The early years of prog psy are still the best imo when it was much darker than it is nowadays.
But yeah the future of prog psy is uncertain. I hope it remains underground and dark.
One of my absolute favorite genres, it's not really for home listening imo, more for parties, you need to listen to it a couple of times before you start appreciating it, and you gotta hear it LOUD. There's a shitload of really good artists making progtrance, but the genre doesn't really evolve much, don't know if that's good or bad though.
Favorite artists are: Son Kite, Double Dragon, Reefer Decree, Phony Orphants, Ticon, Etnoscope, Frogacult, Ace Ventura and Lish. There's tons of great artists out there.
Love Vibrasphere, haven't really listened to much else...what do you recommend?
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| Originally posted by woscar99 Love Vibrasphere, haven't really listened to much else...what do you recommend? |
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| Originally posted by RebeL9 today when trance is either fullblown cheese fest ala Armin and Paul van Dyk or boring electro reincarnations |
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| Originally posted by Venire Oh yes, lets ignore artists like Beetseekers. Also, Progressive Psy is mostly dull, boring junk, and I rather listen the cheezy Trance. |
Anything more would be music I enjoy listening, like Daniel Kandi - Nova. In other words, LOL OPINIONS.
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| Originally posted by Venire Anything more would be music I enjoy listening, like Daniel Kandi - Nova. In other words, LOL OPINIONS. |
I gave it a try but ehhh...just to dull, I guess lol.
I'll stick to Full-On Psy.
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| Originally posted by RebeL9 wow not much have happened in the Anjunabeats stable during the last 5-6 years. What an uninspiring piece of junk. |
Prog Psy is great. Check out Beat Bizarre, Tegma, Menog, Meller, Human Blue.
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| Originally posted by RebeL9 Human Blue, Ja�a |
The term "prog psy" is used to refer to a number of artist that not always sound very much like each other. I adore artist like Vibrasphere, Human Blue and Ja�a, they make rich and colorful music, albums i can listen to from start to finish and that take me somewhere. On the other hand i enjoy only the odd track by artists like Behind Blue Eyes, Perfect Stranger, Sun Control Spieces etc., they sound completely different, their albums bore the hell out of me. It's quite soulless music that sounds empty and harsh and is not really overwhelmingly dance-friendly either. Then there is a lot of quite decent stuff somewhere in between the boring and the great.
I don't really like to use the "prog psy" label, but i guess it could be applied to some extent to Sound Field's Audio Surfin, a completly flawless album in my book and without a doubt the best trance released this year.
I am a huge fan of the progressive side of psytrance. Sure, some artists produce tunes that are simply too smooth to register, but there are so many great producers putting out wicked material these days; there's never any shortage of top tunes, and the older ones don't age nearly as fast as the old epic trance classics.
If you'd like to explore the genre I would suggest digging into some of my mixes (links in my sig). I have several solid progressive psytrance sets designed to showcase a wide assortment of the principle players in the genre.
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| Originally posted by woscar99 Love Vibrasphere, haven't really listened to much else...what do you recommend? |
Psychedelic music is where its at. the current state of trance is pretty poor at the moment, too much music made for online radio.
whereas the psy is made specifically for 50K Outdoor sound systems!
And it is pure sex for the ears!
Most of the tunes I previewed today have too harsh of a synth and/or not enough cohesive melodic elements like trance. There were two I liked so I'm definately keeping my ears open for new psy-trance tunes.
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| Originally posted by Beatflux Most of the tunes I previewed today have too harsh of a synth and/or not enough cohesive melodic elements like trance. There were two I liked so I'm definately keeping my ears open for new psy-trance tunes. |
Progpsy is a good genre overall, but like Rebel said theres a lot of producers wandering off down the electro route - eg: Antix and to a degree, Vibrasphere.
Theres a lot of good stuff in there, but most of the time I only usually find one or two standout tracks on an album. The rest sounds generic and filler to me most of the time. The genre suffers a bit from a lot of material that sounds generic. But unlike trance, where generic music plain sounds bad, the generic progpsy is still good music, theres just a lot of it and more variation is needed. A sizable amount of progpsy sounds quite dry and mechanical. Not warm and easy to listen to.
Overall though, progpsy is a far better genre than trance is, but you have to dig a lot to find it.
Progpsy does have many good artists. What people need to realise is that psy/goa is more of a true form of trance than uplifting/epic, so while some tracks will contain some good melodies, a lot of the time it can be something subtle like a good acid line or a moody string that works in a track.
Some good crossover tracks for those newer to progpsy imo would be
Vibrasphere - Sweet September
Andromeda - The Dreamer
Vibrasphere - Reservoir (Antix Rmx)
Son Kite - gazing at the sun
Prisoners of the sun - Hello Kitty (Fitalic Remix)
Obviously there's tons of good ones though, and if you check out stuff as mentioned from Gaudium, Ace Ventura, Tegma, Liquid Soul, Jaia (inc even11 w/ silicon sound) Ticon, Antix, Flowjob, Freq etc you'll find a sound that is very good at bridging gaps, eg for proghouse (chris micali, james monro, greed & sonic cube, parrket, Earsugar, D-Nox & Beckers & many more or progress it into more melodic trance, eg beetseekers, miika kuisma (and in general a fair bit of the scandinavian artists)
try:
Etnica - Trip Tonight (remix)
Etnica - Hells Kitchen
Motion Drive - Borderliner
Motion Drive - Deception
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| Originally posted by Venire Subjective taste is a bitch. |
I've been really getting into Prog Psy and Psy this past year or so and i've found what's missing in trance.
Something that has taken longer than 3 hours to make (at least it sounds like it)
More meaning and detail
Just fucking good stuff!
Human Blue!!!!!!!!! getting there as my new favourite artists.
Pretty much who's named i like.
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