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Posted by aLviNx80 on Oct-24-2007 02:43:

Red face hiphop ......

My co-worker is planning on throwing a party at a local club as a once a month thing, and had asked me to DJ there..
which is coo.. but the problem is that I would have to play the top40 stuff, which i've never done before. I normally play Trance and House, but agreed to help him out anyways.

I assume that it wouldn't take much to mix top40, but was just wondering if there are ways to make it a bit interesting...


I know......
Sorry for asking...


Posted by nchs09 on Oct-24-2007 03:23:

find remixes of hip hop that are house.


there are a couple...


Posted by i got big pants on Oct-24-2007 04:51:

fade in and out between songs...nobody will notice any difference


Posted by Beatflux on Oct-24-2007 04:55:

Pop in Ultra Dance Vol. 1-7.


Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-24-2007 06:15:

nothing worse than a house dj being a halfassed pop dj


do what you want, just do it right.


Posted by Yohan on Oct-24-2007 06:47:

i don't understand why people would dj for gigs that they know they'll hate

even if it's a favour for a friend...

and if you can't properly mix in hip hop which actually takes some skill, you'll sound terrible


Posted by djlemeir on Oct-24-2007 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
nothing worse than a house dj being a halfassed pop dj


do what you want, just do it right.

what he said
learn to like it
and practice


Posted by Igaryok on Oct-24-2007 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
i don't understand why people would dj for gigs that they know they'll hate

even if it's a favour for a friend...

and if you can't properly mix in hip hop which actually takes some skill, you'll sound terrible


Since when is there mixing involved in top 40?


Posted by djkoolaide on Oct-24-2007 14:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Igaryok
Since when is there mixing involved in top 40?


Let's not start this war again...


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-24-2007 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
i don't understand why people would dj for gigs that they know they'll hate


exactly. i really do wonder how many djs are in it just for the tunes sometimes.


Posted by leph555 on Oct-24-2007 16:02:

just bring a radio with you hook it up to the sound system and put on like hot 97 or some other shit


Posted by Yohan on Oct-24-2007 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Igaryok
Since when is there mixing involved in top 40?

Obviously you've never seen a real hip hop DJ at work


Posted by Ghost Raver on Oct-24-2007 16:24:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
just bring a radio with you hook it up to the sound system and put on like hot 97 or some other shit

Yes! If you have enough crowd there and enough friends, you might just win the next DJ poll too

Seriously though

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
i don't understand why people would dj for gigs that they know they'll hate

+1


Posted by Dojomaster26 on Oct-24-2007 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Igaryok
Since when is there mixing involved in top 40?


It can be if you put effort into it:



EDIT: Why is the embed code not working?

Here is what I was trying to show.


Posted by everett on Oct-24-2007 23:51:

I like DJing both styles, can be lots of fun actually, don't hate


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-25-2007 02:02:

this is an old pm i sent a guy about 6 months ago:

"ok, when i spin, i start at any bpm and then work up or down through songs by bpm's. i usually start around 100bpm though... i organize my music by bpm (in serato). so if i start off at 110,i'll work down to 80 and then jump to 160, or i'll work up to 160 and jump down to 80. i like working down in bpms better than up.. you can really notice pitch changes, so dont make jumps more than 2 bpm. if you have pitch lock or something like that it makes things a lot easier. after you are into the track who's pitch you had to change to get it beatmatched, make sure you set the pitch back to zero (slowly or when there is a instra break w/ a vocal or something). if you read the thread "hip hop" you will also learn a little more about how people mix hip hop... i gave you a list of good songs ranging from 80 to 160 bpm. this is just a start, but its good to have at least 1 song for every bpm when you start your hip hop journey. then when you add songs you like, you will have more than 1 for a lot of the bpms and can easily mix up and down through the diff bpm's. these are new to old rap songs. i put the best song i had for each bpm (my opinion) on this list, so you should be getting off to a good start. you still probably need at least 200 more songs if you are doing a 4 hr gig.

bpm artist - song

161 lil wayne fireman
160 lil flip - game over, dj unk - walk it out
159 brooke valentine feat dem franchize boys - pimped out
158 baby feat lil wayne - shine on
157 shawnna feat busta - gettin some (head)
156 juvenile - rodeo
155 d4l - laffy taffy, dj unk - 2 step
154 black eyed peas - pump it
153 chingy - holiday inn
152 young joc - shoulder lean, soulja boy - crank that soulja boy
151 rick ross - push it
150 lil jon - what you gonna do
149 fat joe - make it rain
148 cherish feat sean paul - do it to it, huey - pop lock and drop it
147 three 6 mafia - poppin my collar
146 mary j blige - be without you (kendu mix)
145 purple ribbon allstars - kryptonite
144 bone thugs - crossroads
143 chamillionaire - ridin
142 cupid - cupid shuffle
141 timbaland and timberlake - ayo technology
140 ludacris - whats your fanitsy
139 mike jones and paul wall - they dont know
138 pitbull - getting freaky
137 rihanna - sos (resuce me)
136 shawnie - shake ya money maker
135 2 live crew - shake that ass bitch
134 da' dip - freak nasty
133 let me see your tootsie roll (dont know what artist)
132 mya feat missy elliot - my love is like woah
131 ludacris - roll out
130 black eyed peas - dont phunk with my heart
129 bone thugs - thuggish ruggish bone, fergie - glamorous
128 christina aguilera - aint no other man
127 salt and peppa - push it
126 outkast - the way you move
125 sean paul - temperature
124 black eyed peas - my humps
123 eminem - just loose it
122 r kelly - feelin on your booty
121 pussycat dolls - dont cha
120 ll cool jay and jlo - control myself
119 pitbull and lil jon - toma
118 ying yang twins feat pitbull - shake, timberlake - love stoned
117 justin timberlake - sexy back
116 eminem - the way i am
115 nelly - tilt ya head back, timbaland - the way i are
114 nelly furtado - promiscious
113 caria feat missy elliot - one two step, brittney - gimme more
112 gnarls barkley - crazy
111 usher - caught up
110 jagged edge - lets get married (remix)
109 missy elliot - we run this
108 pitbull feat lil jon - bojangles (remix)
107 young leek - jiggle it, eminem - shake that ass
106 kevin little - trun me on
105 beyonce - deja vu, pussycat dolls - buttons
104 mase - breathe stretch shake
103 destinys child - bootylicious
102 busta rymes - touch it
101 chris brown - run it
100 shakira - hips dont lie, cassie - me & u
99 julez santana - there it go (the whistle song)
98 t.i. - bring em out
97 bubba sarxxx - ms new booty
96 daddy yankee - gasolina
95 cassidy - get no better
94 t.i. - why you wanna, snoop - gin and juice
93 biggie smalls - hypnotize (biggie biggie), 50 cent - 21 questions
92 kanye west and jaymie fox - golddigger
91 fergie - london bridge, 2pac - california love
90 dr dre - keep their heads ringin (ring ding dong)
89 big tymers - number 1 stunner
88 daddy yankee - rompe
87 nelly - shake a tailfeather, beyonce - ring the alarm
86 juvenile - slow motion, sean paul - still in love
85 jay z and beyonce - upgrade you
84 kelis feat too short - bossy
83 fabolous - breathe, crime mobb - in my white tee
82 lil jon - snap ya fingers, chingy - one call away
81 50 cent - wanksta
80 fabolous - this is my party, shop boyz - party like a rock star

this should help... good luck
make sure you let me know how it works out for ya and if you have any q's dont be afraid to ask

bisco

ps) hip hop crowds are brutal, you have to read the crowd and make adjustmentson the fly. you can do big bpm jumps if the crowd looks bored and you are at 80, jump to 120. it helps to pick a song with a vocal intro or something when you're doin a big jump because noone will notice the the big change in bpm. you can do a backspin, echo out, or something like that when making a big bpm jump. be creative! you will learn how to deal w/ the hiphoppers w/experience... it won't be easy."

go to billboard.com and look at the charts. hot 100, pop, and hip hop charts are available. the list of songs i gave you is like a yr old but you will have a good start (1+ song for each bpm). add 200 of your favorite hip hop tracks to this list and you should be good.


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-25-2007 02:18:

i remember the "hardest genre to mix poll" hip hop won by a landslide... its a very challenging genre to mix... my mixing abilities have skyrocketed since i started doing hip hop. mixing a few house/trance/break/etc.. tracks is cake after doing a couple hundred hip hop sets.


Posted by Zild on Oct-25-2007 12:08:

I started out doing hip-hop. Not top40 because I'm not a douchebag, and I don't think it is any harder than anything else to mix, but maybe that is because I started with it.


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-25-2007 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I started out doing hip-hop. Not top40 because I'm not a douchebag, and I don't think it is any harder than anything else to mix, but maybe that is because I started with it.


so anyone who mixes top 40 is a douchebag? that's interesting... i dj to please the crowd. if i'm at a gig that requires top 40 tracks, i'll play them. not to mention my spot on hot 100 (central pa) every other friday ~ i dont have a choice. if i wanted to dj for myself, i'd stay in my bedroom.


Posted by stan229 on Oct-25-2007 17:23:

are you saying youre playing music you dont feel passionate about just because you get popularity? weaksauce man


Posted by Zild on Oct-25-2007 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
so anyone who mixes top 40 is a douchebag? that's interesting... i dj to please the crowd. if i'm at a gig that requires top 40 tracks, i'll play them. not to mention my spot on hot 100 (central pa) every other friday ~ i dont have a choice. if i wanted to dj for myself, i'd stay in my bedroom.


Still haven't met any top40 DJs who aren't douche bags. And I've met a whole lot of DJs.

Saying if you wanted to dj for yourself you would stay in your bedroom is tantamount to admitting the only way you can find work is to cater to the lowest common denominator.


Posted by djkoolaide on Oct-25-2007 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
so anyone who mixes top 40 is a douchebag? that's interesting... i dj to please the crowd. if i'm at a gig that requires top 40 tracks, i'll play them. not to mention my spot on hot 100 (central pa) every other friday ~ i dont have a choice. if i wanted to dj for myself, i'd stay in my bedroom.


THANK YOU! I can't speak for the bigger markets, but in a small place like Des Moines (shit, even Minneapolis or Kansas City), most clubs and club-goers DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about EDM. People want to dance to Top 40/Hip-Hop. The club/bar owners want you to play Top 40/Hip-Hop. It's that simple, people. Sure, in big cities (and outside of the US) you can play "less popular" music, but it's a fact that if you want to be a successful working DJ in a mainstream market, you HAVE to cater to the crowd.

Flame all you want, I don't give a shit.


Posted by everett on Oct-25-2007 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by djkoolaide
THANK YOU! I can't speak for the bigger markets, but in a small place like Des Moines (shit, even Minneapolis or Kansas City), most clubs and club-goers DO NOT GIVE A SHIT about EDM. People want to dance to Top 40/Hip-Hop. The club/bar owners want you to play Top 40/Hip-Hop. It's that simple, people. Sure, in big cities (and outside of the US) you can play "less popular" music, but it's a fact that if you want to be a successful working DJ in a mainstream market, you HAVE to cater to the crowd.

Flame all you want, I don't give a shit.


In most cases top40 is actually GOOD (puts on flame suit). I enjoy watching people rock out to the music i'm spinning and not forcing music the crowd doesn't like down their throats. I am a far stretch from and EDM purist, find skill and enjoying out of everything and if will be a lot more fun and you'll be more marketable as a DJ. The big city thing is completely true, I DJ on a college campus and most of the time I'm playing hip-hop/rap... but there is a time and place for EDM too.


Posted by DjWoody on Oct-25-2007 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Still haven't met any top40 DJs who aren't douche bags. And I've met a whole lot of DJs.

Saying if you wanted to dj for yourself you would stay in your bedroom is tantamount to admitting the only way you can find work is to cater to the lowest common denominator.


Hello, My name is DJ WOODY. You just met me.



Posted by Zild on Oct-25-2007 23:32:

Are you trying to say you're a douchebag?


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