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Posted by SasH21 on Oct-25-2007 14:18:

Satan (eek!) Let's grunt;-)

By E.J. Mundell
HealthDay Reporter
Wed Oct 24, 7:00 PM ET



WEDNESDAY, Oct. 24 (HealthDay News) -- Jane Ross, a 42-year-old Boston area gym buff, is honest about it: When exercising, she sometimes grunts.

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"I think it's part of going to a gym -- I grunt during a workout, and I think that most people do," said the mom and former personal trainer. "When you are exerting yourself, it's a release."


But not everyone is so accepting of those loud fitness club exhalations.


Late last year, Albert Argibay, a Wappinger Falls, N.Y., bodybuilder and state correction officer, was escorted by police out of the Planet Fitness gym he was a member of, after another member complained to management of his loud grunting during weightlifting.


Planet Fitness, a national chain, has a solid "no-grunting" policy in place and Argibay's noisemaking -- along with a resulting verbal tussle with management -- cost him his membership, The New York Times reported.


The story spawned headlines and much debate, with the grunt-prone lined up on one side and annoyed non-grunters on the other. The former say grunting boosts their workouts, while the latter claim it's just so much hot air.


Each side has its advocates.


Dennis O'Connell is a certified strength and conditioning specialist and professor and chairman of physical therapy at Hardin-Simmons University in Abilene, Texas. He has led two studies assessing grunting's ability to maximize exercise output.


During the research, O'Connell had a variety of people lift a heavy dead weight and pull that weight upward until they straightened their bodies into an upright position. Participants were told to either grunt or stay quiet during the lift.


"Very experienced lifters that normally grunted when they lifted did have about a 1 percent improvement with grunting," O'Connell said.


That pattern was repeated with the other lifters who grunted, he added. "A group of college football players -- they, of course, also lifted weights fairly regularly -- showed a 2 percent improvement. And the untrained group -- graduate students in physical therapy -- had about a 5 percent increase," he said.


When these improvements were spread across the total group, they did not reach statistical significance, O'Connell noted, so there's no firm conclusion that grunting will always boost a gym-goer's performance.


"But, for some people, there was actually a small percentage increase when they grunted, in terms of the force produced," O'Connell said. For that reason, "I wouldn't be trying to tell people not to grunt," he said.


Just how these loud vocalizations might improve force output remains unclear. O'Connell said studies done elsewhere have suggested one theory -- that grunting quiets inhibitory nerves cells in the spinal cord. Those cells would normally impede the ability of muscles to contract and generate force, he said.


But other experts aren't sure any of that holds water.


"As far as anything going on physiologically [with grunting], I'm not aware of any data or studies that have revealed that," said Larry Birnbaum, an exercise physiologist based in Duluth, Minn.


"The only thing I can think of is that it's a psychological thing," he said. "But psychology is very important in sports in general -- if you think you can, it raises the possibility that you can."


Belisa Vranich, a sports psychologist for Gold's Gym Fitness in New York City, believes that for the average workout fan, grunting is probably unnecessary.

"Some people grunt to give others the impression that [the grunters] are doing a lot of work. It's just like flexing and strutting, trying to attract attention," she told the Orange County Register. "The other reason is a more physical one -- they're not breathing properly. In order to grunt, they have to hold their breath and exhale forcefully."

O'Connell said there might be a means of ending fitness-club feuds linked to grunting.

"I think that [gym goers] might look at deep breathing in and out without necessarily the vocalization," he said. Instead of that loud burst of sound, "they may try and practice giving a little less 'auditory stimulation' for the rest of us," O'Connell advised.

But Ross believes people should lighten up and accept the occasional grunt as part of the gym experience.

"I'm kind of in my own world when I'm at the gym, and I think most people are like that," she said. "So, between songs or if your iPod breaks, you're sometimes aware that people are grunting. And that's just the deal."

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Posted by rabbitjoker on Oct-25-2007 14:23:

*GRUNT*


Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-25-2007 16:00:





My gym also has that policy


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-25-2007 16:11:

Sharapova grunts in a very sexy way:P


Posted by Zentac_75 on Oct-25-2007 16:18:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
*GRUNT*


shhhhh....i'm reading.


Posted by SasH21 on Oct-25-2007 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
Sharapova grunts in a very sexy way:P


I think female grunting sounds more like moaning...lol


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-25-2007 16:29:

That's why I don't go the gym. Plus I'm lazy.

Home workouts ftw!


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Oct-25-2007 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
I think female grunting sounds more like moaning...lol


O Rly Sasha? lol

Sherapova doesn't sound like she's moaning...


Posted by Zentac_75 on Oct-25-2007 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
I think female grunting sounds more like moaning...lol




LOL!!!


Posted by SasH21 on Oct-25-2007 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
O Rly Sasha? lol

Sherapova doesn't sound like she's moaning...



Well...I guess it's only me then

But, that's why I go to work out in my condo gym when it's empty and bring my boombox with me to block out the sound lol


Posted by SasH21 on Oct-25-2007 16:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Zentac_75


LOL!!!


Can't watch this now, I'm at work, maybe when Im home later


Posted by Ania_xox on Oct-25-2007 18:10:

this whole thing is ridonkulous
that's like telling people not to yawn when they are tired or to be silent while having sex

the grunts are a physical expression of the tension between your body and what it is trying to do

just like during sex... you vocalize your physical feelings through various sounds... and most of the time it helps and is necessary

grunt away guys
grunt away


Posted by zokissima on Oct-25-2007 18:19:

In principle I can agree to the above, but there are times when people just carry it too far. I've seen some guys at the gym, not particularily build nor that big, grunting away relentlessly. Then there are the pumped up 'hardcore' who just seem to have an incredibly unhealthy sounding nasal problem. I don't always carry an MP3 player, and sometimes you can't help but to laugh or get annoyed when in the middle of your set you are interrupted by a very loud "YAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH, UH, UNG, UNG, UNH, YAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHH" etc.


Posted by SasH21 on Oct-25-2007 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by zokissima
In principle I can agree to the above, but there are times when people just carry it too far. I've seen some guys at the gym, not particularily build nor that big, grunting away relentlessly. Then there are the pumped up 'hardcore' who just seem to have an incredibly unhealthy sounding nasal problem. I don't always carry an MP3 player, and sometimes you can't help but to laugh or get annoyed when in the middle of your set you are interrupted by a very loud "YAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH, UH, UNG, UNG, UNH, YAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHH" etc.


Ya, that can be terrifying at times hehe


Posted by Yohan on Oct-25-2007 18:32:

Isn't grunting part of natural atmosphere of gym?

You grunt whenever you do some sort of hard physical exertion

Might as well tell me not to take a dump in when I'm in the shitter


Posted by CAKE on Oct-25-2007 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
this whole thing is ridonkulous


LoL i use that word all time too ...cept i it's redonkerous

and you can be quiet during sex that's what that red ball form pulp fiction is for


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-25-2007 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Might as well tell me not to take a dump in when I'm in the shitter




LOL!


Posted by jchung52 on Oct-25-2007 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21


But, that's why I go to work out in my condo gym when it's empty and bring my boombox with me to block out the sound lol


oh my...


Posted by SasH21 on Oct-25-2007 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by jchung52
oh my...



Posted by I_Am_Vince on Oct-25-2007 19:56:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by Djsketchbag

and you can be quiet during sex that's what that red ball form pulp fiction is for




Peter you left your's at my house last week


Posted by CAKE on Oct-25-2007 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix


Peter you left your's at my house last week


just clean it and give back


Posted by SasH21 on Oct-25-2007 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix


Peter you left your's at my house last week


That's brutal!!!


Posted by Ania_xox on Oct-25-2007 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Djsketchbag
LoL i use that word all time too ...cept i it's redonkerous

and you can be quiet during sex that's what that red ball form pulp fiction is for


that ball is revolting and the idea of it is totally sado-masochistic and you will never find me anywhere near any such object lol


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-25-2007 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
that ball is revolting and the idea of it is totally sado-masochistic and you will never find me anywhere near any such object lol





Psh. S&M is about so much more than just whips and ballgags.


Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-25-2007 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
That's brutal!!!


So what's with the whipping?


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