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The Secret: The non-sense and the practical truth

Why do people buy it? Because they're fucking sad and lazy, and can't figure out their own "secret" for success. Also, common sense is not at all common anymore.


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Originally posted by jennypie Why do people buy it? Because they're fucking sad and lazy, and can't figure out their own "secret" for success. Also, common sense is not at all common anymore. /Thread

But, is it a bad thing? Is it a sign that, although people are sad and lazy, they're trying to do something for a change? Or is that an excuse to keep arsing around?

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Originally posted by Lira But, is it a bad thing? Is it a sign that, although people are sad and lazy, they're trying to do something for a change? Or is that an excuse to keep arsing around?

It's alright if people understand that the world comes to men of action, not men of mere thoughts, words, or ideas. I think shit like "The Secret" appeals to the lowest common denominator...so it's probably really only giving them false hope.

How did you get the video on the side like that ?

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Originally posted by chach How did you get the video on the side like that ? /thread

Quote, and you shall unveil the secrets of HTML

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Originally posted by jennypie It's alright if people understand that the world comes to men of action, not men of mere thoughts, words, or ideas. I think shit like "The Secret" appeals to the lowest common denominator...so it's probably really only giving them false hope.

hmmm... I guess you have a point.

*Lira sees a copy in his sister's bedroom*

You do seem to have a very good point

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Originally posted by Lira *Lira sees a copy in his sister's bedroom*

Ahahahahaha!

I'd like to pat(ronize) your sister on the head.

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Originally posted by Lira Quote, and you shall unveil the secrets of HTML

or you can use tables

I have it.

Read like 80% of the book but then I recieved a copy of I am America ( & So Can You) So I'm reading that now.


The Secret is really good. I think reading it makes me think differently and want to change how I am. But if I'm not reading the book I'm a super bitch and super complainy!

That's interesting, Mel.

Does the book make you complain less, then? If so, why? And do you work more after (or while) reading it?

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Originally posted by iclone or you can use tables

No, don't do it Really, tables weren't designed for that purpose, and it gives you a lot more headache in the long run. As a matter of fact, if you do try to use tables here, you're going to have a sad surprise...

My father saw it when he was at the climax of a nervous breakdown and it "saved his life." Now he feels bad that none of the rest of the family wants to join his hogwash army.
As mentioned above, I think it appeals to the people in the slums and makes people grateful for small little gifts life brings them (shifting credit from the random of life to the law of Attraction).
I won a small coffee from McDonalds .

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Originally posted by Lira That's interesting, Mel. Does the book make you complain less, then? If so, why? And do you work more after (or while) reading it? No, don't do it Really, tables weren't designed for that purpose, and it gives you a lot more headache in the long run. As a matter of fact, if you do try to use tables here, you're going to have a sad surprise...

Well things have gone pretty good in my life.

When I first moved alot of bad things were happening to me.
-My car got broken into
-Car batter died!
-Fired from my first job EVER

Now I can say I am happier. I want to read it twice so it can sink in.

Whether it's true or not.. It's still a great read. I'm a sucker for sappy movies and I like reading how people turned their life around. I'm all about Happy Endings

Obviously my life isn't shit and was never really shit compared to others. It's hard though to stay positive all the time.

Like the section about money is a bit ridiculous. But some people just always have a positive outlook on life! [I am not one of them]. I can't see a late payment and think something good about it. Especially if I don't have the money to pay for it atm. They want you to constantly think prosperity.

Positivity and prescribed individualism are the corporate new competence.

/broken record.

I'd never heard about The Secret before this thread; I guess people were keeping The Secret an actual secret from me. =/

It's mostly bullshit though. And the documentary footage even more so; if you focus really hard, invisible waves will emit from your head, making things suddenly go your way? Fuck that.

This is just telling people what they want to hear. It's smart control - all the forms of corporate and government control we know of through various books, media, etc. over the last century or so are easy to see from a mile away. It's not actually "brainwashing" someone if they buy the book and worship it willingly, now is it? It is, but it isn't. and that is how they can get away with it.

I'd compare this sort of thought to the majority of people who take up religion; they think that way because they want to. They want to believe in God because it makes them feel safe and it makes them feel as though they are never alone. People want to believe in The Secret because it makes them feel as though they can manipulate their reality to grant them whatever it is they wish in life, fully failing to realize that true enjoyment in ones life comes from not attaining whatever it is you want through wishful thinking, but through hard work; and the things we never actually work to get - those will remain dreams until the day we die. It not necessarily a sad thing - it's a human thing. But some would rather ignore it and submit to the new competence; work to achieve only corporate goals and corporate aims at indoctrinating people to believe they can achieve that brand new product and maybe this one, too - oh, and don't forget that one - everyone needs one of those!

It's a very ugly world out there. People want to believe in whatever because it changes the look of things for a short time - it's not a bad thing, essentially - but changing to change the nature of things, that is what people are being phased out of doing; they live in their illusion while nothing really gets resolved outside of it. And that can be a very harmful thing.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On And the documentary footage even more so; if you focus really hard, invisible waves will emit from your head, making things suddenly go your way?

I'm at work and can't really write much but... that video was just a joke, mate, they're comedians

Or are you talking about the footage they're making fun of?

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Originally posted by Lira I'm at work and can't really write much but... that video was just a joke, mate, they're comedians Or are you talking about the footage they're making fun of?

I know the video was a joke. The footage they were making fun of was from the BBC version of the book, no? I'm sure once people saw it on their television, they lapped it right up.

edit: Oh, and I forgot to say, the video was fucking hilarious. The part where they crashed their car had me in stitches. As far as I am concerned, humour/satire is one of the highest forms of communication.

Watching the Secret can be absolutely disguisting, yet inspiring because it has nuggets of truth hidden within. The entire philosophy is incomplete and it's presented in sort of a new age sort of fashion, and it that way the philosophy appears to be cheapened to the level of TV preachers, but if someone choose to investigate the matters of what goes into success they'll will find that the movie has some merit in what they are trying to teach.

The results in your life are directly correlated with what you are focusing on a moment to moment basis. This secret is absolutely so simple, you won't fucking believe it. Most people(including me) are on this autopilot mode where we are influenced by our environment to help us decide how we feel. Shitty job? Seems like a good enough reason to feel bad? Nobody wants to feel bad, but nobody wants to change how think. People want to feel bad. I know that's hard to hear, but it's the truth. People would rather keep knocking their head up against a stone wall than change their thinking and actions for the better.

lira

you sound like this guy always comes into my shop. i fucken hate the guy but only tolerate him for his money. :/

its just the same fundamentals of psychology just dressed up in bullshit. its like dressing up a piece of shit into a cute baby costume and making it look so adorable and cute. under it all its still just the same log.


basically whatever you focus all your mental power on, you will find a way to make it manifest. its no secret to the universe, its just the same log people shat ot years and years and centuries ago before this new one came out dressed in a different baby suit.

recently my bro and mom have started to get into this in a big way.

so was thinking abt this and IMHO what its selling is not very different from what the authors of all those "pick up artist" books are trying to sell. i think we (most of us anyway) are absolutely terrified at the thought of not being in control of our own lives...and these types of books make us feel that we can in fact control our own destiny, that we can affect how things pan out in our lives. and thats why ppl. eat it up because it makes them feel like they're actually in charge of their own lives.

depending on who you ask, this might be a good thing or not. i'm a bit of a fatalist myself so IMHO its all just a bunch of bull

Fuck you for bumping this thread.

I thought Lira was back

well ill say one thing abt the secret. i think its a half truth. im pretty sure theyre th message aka "the secret" is mindset.


now i always relate this to soccer when im trying to achieve a goal because i have been doing soccer for so long.I have learned after 23 years of play, In order for me to score 2-3 goals a game i need to have a certain mindset. I literally have to mentally prepare myself about a half hour - an hour before game time. If I don't I wont score at all. If I do and i o it right i find myself making these goals come true. my mental preparation consists of alot of visualization. I have to go over every play, and go over every goal in my head, and even celebration. I have to get a fire inside of me that not just would "like" 2 goa;ls but "want" 2 goals. This mindset also needs to carry itself ingame. Now alot of my goals don't come the way I imagine/visualize them but they come, and when the opportunity presents itself I capitalize.

trust me it works. once i build up a momentum I can go on long goal scoring streaks (if I'm healthy).

So In some ways I buy the shit. but i think they lace it with way too many frilly's making you think its magic......theres nothing magic about soccer to me.. I have played since I was 3. If i just started today there would be no way i could score 2 goals a game just by getting myself in the right mindset..

I mean truthfully if you focus on something long enough you'll figure it out. thats why i think the "secret" under all its marketing is just plain mindset.

If I spent every moment of every day on getting my ass rich, im pretty sure i could pull it off within a year or 2

complete shit. New Age moneymaker that has raped esteemed concepts of meditation, manifestation, etc. what the hell, this thing keeps training you to keep feeding the ego rather than containing the materialistic hunger.

fuck, I watched a videoclip of Hicks Abraham seminars on what to do regarding the economic crisis-my ears were bleeding. this nonsense claims you are responisble for EVERYTHING you manifest into your existence, so all you with a disease, it was your thoughts silly. This also promotes faith healing which is definately not the way to go.

This thinking also makes fortunate people feel at ease that those less fortunate are manifesting their shittyness by being negative-even to the extent that the soul of the baby is matched up to that family. and those less fortunate take the complete burden of their situation as a result of what they have manifested, creating very unneccessary guilt.

This is a recipe in the disaster for many in the long run-although it may create an intense short term euphoria. Those more moderate practicers who argue that this helps with confidence in various aspects, thats great, but they must realize that their rational thought is suppressing the outright whack concepts of this.

fuck oprah

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 recently my bro and mom have started to get into this in a big way. so was thinking abt this and IMHO what its selling is not very different from what the authors of all those "pick up artist" books are trying to sell. i think we (most of us anyway) are absolutely terrified at the thought of not being in control of our own lives...and these types of books make us feel that we can in fact control our own destiny, that we can affect how things pan out in our lives. and thats why ppl. eat it up because it makes them feel like they're actually in charge of their own lives. depending on who you ask, this might be a good thing or not. i'm a bit of a fatalist myself so IMHO its all just a bunch of bull

wow. this must the first piece of bullshit you haven't swallowed hook, line and sinker

i miss the chasers

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