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Posted by Turbonium on Nov-03-2007 19:39:

juice bottle frozen - should I be worried?

So I just got this glass bottle of Nestea Zero.

Turns out it's frozen. This alone didn't have me too worried, but when I opened the cap, it didn't make a very loud "pop" at all. Could this be because the cold, more dense air was less willing to "escape" from the bottle, or is it indicative of a problem with the original seal?

Maybe I will go check out the other bottles and see if they are frozen as well...


Posted by leph555 on Nov-03-2007 19:43:

RUN its going to EXPLODE


Posted by Turbonium on Nov-03-2007 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
RUN its going to EXPLODE

Dude come on...

I'm taking a microbio/bacteria course right now, so I'm right to be a little paranoid.


Posted by Turbonium on Nov-03-2007 19:50:

Total awesomeness:

I just checked out the store's fridge... none of the drinks using real sugar (no aspartame) are frozen. The only Nestea Zero left is also frozen.

Must have something to do with aspartame raising the freezing point relative to if it were real sugar?


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-03-2007 19:58:

im pretty sure freezing it should increase the vacuum like pressure since there is more room for more air. so the pop seal should still be intact. heat would cause the air to expand and take up more room and therefore make the pop seal be affected.


Posted by Turbonium on Nov-03-2007 20:00:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
im prettu sure freezing it should increase the vacuum like pressure since there is more room for more air. so the pop seal should still be intact. heat would cause the air to expand and take up more room and therefore make the pop seal be affected.

Well I've drank like half of it (well, what's liquid anyway... the whole thing is literally ice).

I hope I don't end up feeling sick.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-03-2007 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Turbonium
Well I've drank like half of it (well, what's liquid anyway... the whole thing is literally ice).

I hope I don't end up feeling sick.

i doubt you will. the seal is there for tampering reasons but the seal can also just release itself sometimes. its not a 100% sure thing. as long as it makes some sort of obvious change (you can tell if its been opened or not normally. theres just a different feel to one that has and one that hasnt) or feels proper then it more than likely is.


Posted by Ygrene on Nov-03-2007 21:08:

*subscribed to see if Turbonium lives*


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-03-2007 21:22:

dont be a puss and drink that shit... honestly



kids are starving in afica, theyd love that frozen fuckin nestea and you're bitching about microbacteria?




Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Nov-03-2007 21:30:

Plus it's frozen, bugger all worth catching is gonna thrive in ice.


Posted by Turbonium on Nov-03-2007 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations microbacteria?

Funny how those same bacteria can give you explosive diarrhea or worse.

In this case, size doesn't matter.


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-03-2007 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Turbonium
Funny how those same bacteria can give you explosive diarrhea or worse.

In this case, size doesn't matter.



whatever dude, be a man.



Posted by SuspicionVandit on Nov-03-2007 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
dont be a puss and drink that shit... honestly



kids are starving in afica, theyd love that frozen fuckin nestea and you're bitching about microbacteria?





+1. David wasn't scared of Goliath.


Posted by eROs.au on Nov-03-2007 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Plus it's frozen, bugger all worth catching is gonna thrive in ice.


E. coli can survive in space


Posted by Turbonium on Nov-03-2007 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
whatever dude, be a man.



Fuck it, you're right.

Maybe I'll ingest some Clostridium botulinum while I'm at it.


Posted by Omega_M on Nov-03-2007 21:56:

Bacteria are nasty little creatures.

quote:
Thirty Million-Year Sleep: Germ Is Declared Alive!

Biologists Raul Cano and Monica Borucki had extracted bacterial spores from bees preserved in amber in Costa Rica. Amber is tree-sap that hardens and persists as a fossil. This amber had entrapped some bees and then hardened between 25 and 40 million years ago. Bacteria living in the bees' digestive tracts had recognized a problem and turned themselves into spores. When placed in a suitable culture, the spores came right back to life. As a control, the two biologists also attempted to culture from the same amber a number of samples that contained no bee parts. These cultures were negative, adding credibility to the experiment




The Bee



The revived bacteria


Posted by leph555 on Nov-03-2007 22:01:

fap

fap

fap


Posted by eROs.au on Nov-03-2007 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M


That really is amazing


Posted by charon on Nov-03-2007 23:08:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
im pretty sure freezing it should increase the vacuum like pressure since there is more room for more air. so the pop seal should still be intact. heat would cause the air to expand and take up more room and therefore make the pop seal be affected.

No. its the opposite. Water expands when it freezes, so there is less room for air. Therefore, the seal may have been broken by the water expanding, but as long as it didn't unfreeze and then freeze again, no outside air/bacteria would have gotten in.


Posted by Dervish on Nov-04-2007 03:03:

awwwwww read all that to have a smart arse comment and you stole it
charon

i say if you really want to get bacteria handle some money, perhaps a bank card then lick your finger

bactera-licious

EDIT: Neglected to mention hydrogen bonding as the reason for expansion -1 point. (actually pretty blutered after watching Calzaghe beat Kessler so might be wrong)


Posted by gehzumteufel on Nov-04-2007 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by charon
No. its the opposite. Water expands when it freezes, so there is less room for air. Therefore, the seal may have been broken by the water expanding, but as long as it didn't unfreeze and then freeze again, no outside air/bacteria would have gotten in.

haha i totally wasnt thinking about that. oops. your totally right.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-04-2007 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Turbonium
Total awesomeness:

I just checked out the store's fridge... none of the drinks using real sugar (no aspartame) are frozen. The only Nestea Zero left is also frozen.

Must have something to do with aspartame raising the freezing point relative to if it were real sugar?


your understanding of "total awesomeness" might need some work.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Nov-04-2007 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
whatever dude, be a man.


+1, Harden the fuck up.



Pretty much every post of Tuboronium's in this thread is dribbling shit


Posted by echosystm on Nov-04-2007 05:54:

i think microbacteria are the least of your worries...

what if someone injected aids into the bottle?


Posted by Chris Crossland on Nov-04-2007 07:36:

Me + Philippines = Shitting all day with a knife in my stomach. Microbacteria suck.


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