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Posted by Bondor on Apr-29-2002 04:09:

Worm Popper how do ya bust into the scene?

right now i make songs in my basement, how do i get from the basement to being heard??

which buttons do i have to press? where do you meat the people who are on the inside? how do i find the record companies that would want my songs? how do i get djs to play my songs?

any information, insite, tips, stories, or ANYTHING would be awsome, im sure many producers what to know how, thanks for your help!


bondor


Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-29-2002 04:13:

well, i dont know how good your productions are but the best way is to send demos off to record labels

i heard when ferry corsten was doing promos for out of the blue (system f) he just sent out promo pressed vinyls with only a pager number on it, i guess he was pretty confident, hell i would be too wiht that kind of track, but like i talked to l-vee (aka airwave) and he said he had like 50 some demo tapes before he finally got his record deal, so the best advice is to keep trying and never give up, but make sure you send those demos to record companies, and dont limit yourself, send it to a shitload of record companies


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-29-2002 07:44:

Yeah, send demos, and send them EVERYWHERE.

Give them to amateur DJ's, give them to your friends, send them to labels etc. etc.

It takes some hard work to get heard (even just in the internet) but in the end it'll result to something.

I haven't done that yet, but that's just because I do not feel that I'm quite ready for it yet.


Posted by attacc on Apr-30-2002 07:58:

I'm not sure sending demos to all kinds of record labels is the way to go.. it may seem so.. but remember most labels do not listen to unsolicited demos. Nobody told ya getting a record deal is easy

Get a dj to play your tunes, get big in your local area.. play live..start small and build your reputation

Respek!


Posted by Serp on Apr-30-2002 11:01:

i think the trick is to produce a mind blowing track for a demo


Posted by attacc on Apr-30-2002 11:22:

Unhappy

quote:
Originally posted by dj dave b
i think the trick is to produce a mind blowing track for a demo


True, but what good is it to produce a mind blowing demo if the label isn't gonna listen to it?


Posted by Serp on Apr-30-2002 11:24:

that's easy, just walk in there with a walkman and speakers and sit in on their desk with it playing, hahahaha


Posted by attacc on Apr-30-2002 11:40:

hehe, Yeah...


Posted by BeatFreak on May-01-2002 06:12:

Then what's a solicited demo? How can you get the record companies to hear it?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-01-2002 08:45:

I have a friend who once wrote articles about all kinds of stuff, including one about getting your name out there...

He used to be signed at Australia with his band (Tainted Violets) and he currenltly runs his own indie record label (Zeitgeist Records).

I'll try to dig up the articles...


Posted by attacc on May-01-2002 11:56:

A solicited demo is when the label asks your for a demo. The label might have heard some jolly good talk about your music or performance and is looking for new talent.. then they might ask you for demo


Posted by NSA Berbalist on May-10-2002 06:10:

get your plates out to DJ's, if the tracks r good they'll spin 'em. If the tracks are really good folks will start asking around. Good DJ's are always looking for good material that noone else has, if you hook 'em up with good tracks, they'll mention you. Also depending on how many you press, you might want to drop 'em off at record stores, just white label promos, again that's where DJ's look for new sounds.


Posted by flutlicht junky on May-10-2002 12:20:

You dont even have to press them up onto vinyl either. goto local clubs and had the dj's and residents a cd of your tune.

Most dj's are not bothered about cd's + the ones that know, know that is is vrtually guarenteed. Picotto + pvd say they pay alot of their tunes off cd, becuase they know a producers can rip a cd and have them ready to hand out in the night.

Its only amatuers and those who dont have producer contacts that get funny over cd's.


Posted by DJ Chrono on May-10-2002 20:30:

1. Send promo cds out, along with a short bio and picture. make sure everything has fancy lables and looks professional so they get a good impression. most small lables DO LISTEN to unsolicited demos. when I say small lables, Im talking about most trance lables (they are small in comparison to huge lables like sony etc.) For example, Lighting Records, Positiva, Tidy, Unsubmissive, Kinetic, Vandit and a pile more. do a little research on each lable you send to, as in make sure they produce ur style of music. Alot of these labels are a little hard to find a&r addresses but they're around. include about 3 - 5 tracks on ur demo. not too many, or they wont listen to them all, not too little or you have less of a chance of them liking one of your tracks. In the summer I'm gonna be sending out about 20 demos to lables across europe, with 3 or 4 songs each.

2. Make sure u have a crazy track that stands out, and is professionally produced. I mean, listen to your track and compare it to a released track. make absolutely sure ur track is as good in physical sound quality and mastering and stuff. if not dont even bother.

3. Send out to any clubs, or DJs you know.

4. Big radio stations. I emailed a guy around here at a station about playing unsigned music, and he said sure send it in and if its good he'll play it. This is crazy it gets the local people wanting to hear the track in clubs. Once it gets big in ur local clubs the lables should come flocking.

5. If you got like $1500 CND press 500 records and distribute them to record shops as whitelables. send a few out to big local DJs. sell some on the net (like this forum). when people start liking the tracks, record lables will find out its an unreleased white lable, and will come to you.


there's my advice, now I just got to follow it


Posted by t0ast! on May-10-2002 22:11:

what about those who just wanna get big in mixing and not producing? same deal?


Posted by DJ Chrono on May-10-2002 22:51:

for becoming a big name DJ all I can suggest is making a crazy set, burn it on CD, and send to all the local clubs. Hopefully one will pick you up, and you can start there. Then once your name gets around (if you're really good) then you can keep on moving up


Posted by Bondor on May-11-2002 18:35:

holly sh!t chrono your only like 17 (same here) and you sound like youve been doing this for about 20 years !! thanks for the advice man !!

how far are you btw youve gotten airplay right?


Posted by Fandom on May-11-2002 20:04:

Hey Dj chrono thanks for the great advice here!
Wish u good luck on your trance travels - as well as all the others around!
Who knows? we might be spinning together one day - or mixing together in our pcs(I do prefer them!)
LOL!
See ya


Posted by Michael Russo on May-12-2002 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
4. Big radio stations. I emailed a guy around here at a station about playing unsigned music, and he said sure send it in and if its good he'll play it. This is crazy it gets the local people wanting to hear the track in clubs. Once it gets big in ur local clubs the lables should come flocking.


Chrono, what radio station? There are radio stations that play good music in Toronto?


Posted by DJ Chrono on May-12-2002 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Russo


Chrono, what radio station? There are radio stations that play good music in Toronto?


I emailed the Hammer from z103.. I know, they play more dance and euro trance, but I have heard some serious tracks on their station. Other than that station, there are no other stations that play ANY trane at all.

quote:

holly sh!t chrono your only like 17 (same here) and you sound like youve been doing this for about 20 years !! thanks for the advice man !!

how far are you btw youve gotten airplay right?


thanks, I've done a ton of reading up on it, and talked to alot of people. I've had my tracks on some radio station in Sacramento California at like 2 AM lol.. I actually downloaded the radio show, it was an AMAZING feeling hearing your name announced, and ur track being played over the airwaves. To tell you the truth, I didnt even send my tracks into any radio station yet (that one the guy found my tracks, and e-mailed me about it). As soon as this next promo CD is done, I'll be sure to get it out all over the place.


Posted by DJ Fin on May-12-2002 18:23:

Exclamation YO! CHECK THIS OUT!

To all the *new* producers reading this . . . send me a Private Message (PM) and we'll see if we can work out something with your demo/tracks!

Also . . . other DJ/Artists, for a *limited* time only, I will open up my office to *solicit* demos from each of you on here at TA. I'm adding this info on this thread instead of creating my own for a reason. ...and I'm not going to tell you some of the people I work with/for or am connected to, because I don't need to have my box overflowed, so don't ask! ...but feel free to send me a PM and we'll see what we can do for you.

peace


Posted by Michael Russo on May-12-2002 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono


I emailed the Hammer from z103.. I know, they play more dance and euro trance, but I have heard some serious tracks on their station. Other than that station, there are no other stations that play ANY trane at all.



Chrono, if you want, I can talk to someone from z103 and see if they'll play one of your songs. My promotion company is doing an event at Atlantis Night Club on Saturday May 25th called Mayhem... it's a z103 concert, so Tony Monaco and other important z103 people will be there. If you have any songs you think are ready (and preferably a little bit on the eurotrance cheesier side), I'll give one of them a cd.


Posted by The_Groove on May-13-2002 19:34:

A foot in the door

Check out my post in this forum (Want your track to be on the radio?), I can help you get a foot in the door. Can't promise success.


Posted by DJ Chrono on May-13-2002 20:16:

hey Michael Russo, that would be really great.. I've got one track that I think would fit nicely in the Z103.5 style of trance that they play. PM me so I can figure out how to get you the CD.

and The_Groove, this is hillarious! You are the guy that played my track on your radio station. Germ and DJ Groove .. lol.


Posted by The_Groove on May-13-2002 20:19:

Heh heh

I thought DJ Chrono looked familiar...

See people? Dreams can come true!

Yeah, Germ has changed his name... now he's Dj Rah! OOooo Scary. Send me your music [email protected]


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