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Posted by Swamper on May-02-2002 20:17:

Satan (eek!) Lack of English skills from people whose first language is English is becoming scary

I don't get it...

Over the past 3 or 4 years I've noticed a HUGE increase in the number of people confusing:

1) Loser / Looser
2) Your / You're
3) Then / Than
4) There / Their / They're
5) CDs / CD's

Ok..the bottom 3 are a bit trickier for some, but the first two are no excuse... I have know people who came to Canada with no formal english training that comment to me about how some people mess up the first two and how it puzzles them how people don't know the difference.

Mind you my english has suffered somewhat from being online for so many years - excess use of chat room / forums can do that to you if you're not careful.

Here's a nice one to screw ya up:

They're a good band; so, I don't think you're a loser if you use that loose change in your pocket to buy their CDs from the store.


Posted by Nautica on May-02-2002 20:26:

I've noticed this too! I run a rather large car orientated forum and the bad ones are:

crome (chrome)
breaks (brakes)
incurance (insurance)
bonet, bonett etc (bonnet)
relice (release)

I think the worst I've seen has to be:

"evry1 sed i was weird cos mines always crashin!f'uks up all the time.
if it sez no1s online or sez u have no1 on ur contacts list then set up anova account, sign in2 it then sign bak in2 ur ova 1 (thats y i got 2 hotmail addresses)& they'll all come bak agen!
if it dont let u sign in, u either gotta leave it 4 a bit cos its totally f'uked or download it agen...but the nu 1 crashes more than the old so i got the old 1 bak!
Have fun"


Posted by Blik on May-02-2002 20:34:

you guys should be ashamed

even I speak better English then (or than) you guys!!!!


Posted by apri_peel on May-02-2002 20:38:

oh geezus <--- see this one all the time
but really, come on now ppl
we're all educated here. we all got some sort of schooling if you're here in the first place
i used to do that shit all the time when i got hooked to chat rooms, then i realized if i'm ever gonna survive thru university i better start typing write
and i think those ppl should be ashamed of themselves. it doesnt take that much longer to spell out the whole word. i bet if we tested how much faster is it really to type no1 and no one the difference would be so minimal that no normal human being would notice

a piece of advice: if any of you who type that they are in a chatroom wnat to survive in the real world, i suggest you start typing the way you're supposed to. you may be young to realize that right now, or you may not care or whatever your reasons are, you will have to learn how to spell properly and if you don't then its your loss, and yours only


Posted by G K Murray on May-02-2002 20:39:

people are lazy when it comes to typing, so they use slang!! That's just the way it is.

That's slighty off the point and i know what you mean.

Swamper! for Number 2 you should've put it as UR instead of YOUR, thats how most lazy typers such as myself put it.


Posted by G K Murray on May-02-2002 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by apri_peel
oh geezus <--- see this one all the time
but really, come on now ppl
we're all educated here. we all got some sort of schooling if you're here in the first place
i used to do that shit all the time when i got hooked to chat rooms, then i realized if i'm ever gonna survive thru university i better start typing write
and i think those ppl should be ashamed of themselves. it doesnt take that much longer to spell out the whole word. i bet if we tested how much faster is it really to type no1 and no one the difference would be so minimal that no normal human being would notice

a piece of advice: if any of you who type that they are in a chatroom wnat to survive in the real world, i suggest you start typing the way you're supposed to. you may be young to realize that right now, or you may not care or whatever your reasons are, you will have to learn how to spell properly and if you don't then its your loss, and yours only



Are you taking the piss??????????

If you aren't, lokk carefully how u've typed it!!!!!


Posted by Tranex02 on May-02-2002 20:42:

I agree...
i must say, for some reason i started mis-spelling some words , maybe that's because the lack of time to waste on double checking a word...but still, certain words like YOUR & YOU'RE should be rather straight-forward....
I think it gets contagious sometimes...


Posted by brunette on May-02-2002 20:44:

I agree! It's shocking.


Posted by Tranex02 on May-02-2002 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by G K Murray
Swamper! for Number 2 you should've put it as UR instead of YOUR, thats how most lazy typers such as myself put it.


he's not refering specifally to slang words, but more of mispelled words or 'wrong usage' of certain words...


Posted by apri_peel on May-02-2002 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by G K Murray



Are you taking the piss??????????

If you aren't, lokk carefully how u've typed it!!!!!


hhahahahahaha see what i mean??
some people just do it because they are not paying attention anymore, they're used to typing like that and to them it seems normal now
when i wrote my first paper, i wrote 'thru' everywhere instead of 'through' and i lost tons of points for that. that was my biggest and only lesson to make me start spelling properly

good for you for spotting those G K


Posted by Haak on May-02-2002 20:52:

Noticed this too (alot of people get to and too wrong ). English isn't my first language, but I notice this all the time from people here with US, Canadian and English flags.


Posted by G K Murray on May-02-2002 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by apri_peel


hhahahahahaha see what i mean??
some people just do it because they are not paying attention anymore, they're used to typing like that and to them it seems normal now
when i wrote my first paper, i wrote 'thru' everywhere instead of 'through' and i lost tons of points for that. that was my biggest and only lesson to make me start spelling properly

good for you for spotting those G K


No probs. it was only early on you started doing it, at the end you must of realised!!


Posted by Endlesswave on May-02-2002 21:05:

Question lol sooooooooooo true!

It KILLS me everytime I see that happen, if it's unintentionally done, awwwwwwww man...I'm an English Major and it pains me to see it. lol I use slang online but sometimes it's just insane how people use grammer on here.


Posted by DamnDirtyApe on May-02-2002 21:05:

I been speakin english all my whole life, and I speaks fine!


Posted by ali92 on May-02-2002 21:12:

I have a reason for doing this: I'M A SLOW TYPER! In a chatroom, I use "ur", "2", "u", "wanna", "gonna", etc. because people want to rush and want me to type quicker rather than let me check the spelling of every word. That's why I end up doing "^(corrected word)" a lot RIGHT after misspelling a word. Because people are arseholes and want (me) to hurry up. But, in a post, I WANT to type right and plus it's easier for others to read. Also, what if someone if translating everything you type and they get an error because YOU didn't spell the word properly? I can go on for a while about this but, you already know what I mean so, I guess I'm going to end this for now. Oh, by the way, this took me about 10 minutes to type, give or take...


Posted by ali92 on May-02-2002 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Nautica
I've noticed this too! I run a rather large car orientated forum and the bad ones are:

crome (chrome)
breaks (brakes)
incurance (insurance)
bonet, bonett etc (bonnet)
relice (release)

I think the worst I've seen has to be:

"evry1 sed i was weird cos mines always crashin!f'uks up all the time.
if it sez no1s online or sez u have no1 on ur contacts list then set up anova account, sign in2 it then sign bak in2 ur ova 1 (thats y i got 2 hotmail addresses)& they'll all come bak agen!
if it dont let u sign in, u either gotta leave it 4 a bit cos its totally f'uked or download it agen...but the nu 1 crashes more than the old so i got the old 1 bak!
Have fun"



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

WOW! That one REALLY cracked me up! I was laughing the whole time while I was reading it!!!


Posted by dig2k on May-02-2002 21:40:

Re: Lack of English skills from people whose first language is English is becoming scary

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
I have know people who came to Canada with no formal english training that comment to me about how some people mess up the first two and how it puzzles them how people don't know the difference.


I have know people who came to Canada? Is that good english?

Sorry I had to say it...


Posted by davinox on May-02-2002 21:45:

Re: lol sooooooooooo true!

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
It KILLS me everytime I see that happen, if it's unintentionally done, awwwwwwww man...I'm an English Major and it pains me to see it. lol I use slang online but sometimes it's just insane how people use grammer on here.


HAHAHAHA...you are an English Major and you spelled Grammar with an ER...

People should look at themselves before they bash others.


Posted by Dmatrox on May-02-2002 21:52:

Re: Lack of English skills from people whose first language is English is becoming scary

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Over the past 3 or 4 years I've noticed a HUGE increase in the number of people confusing:


5) CDs / CD's


Whats the difference?


effect/affect -this one gets a lot of people, including myself


Posted by Hell_Copter on May-02-2002 21:53:

well i hardly speak English in here except when i'm at school in English lessons and it's my second language overall... but from what i see in here i speak better than a lot more than people who are speak english as their first language
that's really a shame


Posted by Eugene on May-02-2002 22:02:

It's because English is a stupid language.

What other language has so many words that sound the same, but are written differently?
their/they're/there, right/write, night/knight, site/sight, said/sad, read/reed, team/teem, seam/seem, etc. etc. etc.

What other language has such weird spelling rules? I could write the word "fish" in English like this: "ghoti" and be absolutely correct, because:
gh = [f] as in laugh
o = [i] as women
ti = [sh] as in station

What other language abuses the alphabet to such an extent?! Try spelling "beautiful" and "daughter" correctly, for example.

In what other normal language is "a" pronounced like "ey"?
In what other normal language is "e" pronounced like "i"?
And in what other normal language is "i" pronounced like "ay"!!!


Posted by JM on May-02-2002 22:11:

i started making these mistakes myself as well lately and it's starting to piss me off. my grammar used to be perfect. with English being my second language, the way i learned english was that i somehow learned grammar very well and still know it better than most of the native english speakers. oh well....doesn't matter....as long as people can understand me

>JM<


Posted by Sarcoman on May-02-2002 22:15:

Re: Re: Lack of English skills from people whose first language is English is becoming scary

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox


Whats the difference?


effect/affect -this one gets a lot of people, including myself


CDs = Multiple Compact Disks (CDs is plural of CD)
CD's = As belonging to CD (i.e. Sarcoman's CDs)

People really have to learn to use proper English in their communication if they hope to be successfull in their professional careers. One of the things I hate most is people that use double negative phrases, such as:

I didn't do nothin' wrong (which when taken literaly means, I did something wrong, because you didn't do nothing wrong).


A lot of linquists (people who study languages) also are perturbed by Not-Un statements, such as "It's Not Uncommon....", why not just say "Its common"


Posted by Spad on May-02-2002 23:38:

Aye your right. But they're are lots of reasons why people didn't get a good education. Everybody's not as good at grammer as most of us are. People should spend less time on there computer and more time reding. I think their just lazy to.


Posted by reveal on May-02-2002 23:58:

agree
i see the then/than issue all the time... don't understand why some people would have problems with it


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