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Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-10-2008 01:29:

Hillary won in New Hampshire

Praise be.



Please chop.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-10-2008 01:37:

Also


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-10-2008 01:38:

I found it pretty surprising.

What do you think about the idea that we've just seen an instance of the Bradley Effect?


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-10-2008 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I found it pretty surprising.

What do you think about the idea that we've just seen an instance of the Bradley Effect?



Oh how glad I am that you asked, because this seriously made me lol earlier today.

quote:
The Tom Bradley Effect, or Explaining Obama's Huge, Throbbing Gap

Lee Stranahan | Bio

Why was there such a big difference between Barack Obama's New Hampshire pre-election poll numbers and the actual vote?

Some suggest it was 'The Tom Bradley Effect' --and since some suggest it, now every news talker on the TV is throwing around the phrase 'Tom Bradley Effect.' So it's a good idea for you to be able to use it properly in conversation so you can sound as smart as the people on the TV.

Wikipedia defines the 'Tom Bradley Effect' as "a phenomenon which has led to inaccurate voter opinion polls in some American political campaigns between a white candidate and a non-white candidate. Specifically, there have been instances in which statistically significant numbers of white voters tell pollsters in advance of an election that they are likely to vote for the non-white candidate, but those voters exhibit a different behavior when actually casting their ballots."

This is potentially important and interesting, but not as much fun as going over to Wikipedia and changing the definition of the 'Tom Bradley Effect' to "a phenomenon which leads to an airline terminal being named after you," or just making up your own joke. Try it, you'll see!

Why would New Hampshire voters tell phone pollsters they were going to vote for Obama?

One explanation is obvious. Everyone knows that pollsters typically employ intimidating sounding men with deep voices and who often start calls by asking, "Are you the chief whitey all up in your hizzy?"

Perhaps the problem was that the pollsters framed the question about Obama thusly: "You ARE voting for Barack Obama, right?" and would often repeat the question over and over with increasing emphasis on the word "ARE" until they got the answer "yes, sir."

What not many know, however, is that 95% of these intimidating deep-voiced men who make pollster phone calls are actually 22-year-old women from Bangalore who learned to speak English by watching Ice-T on Law & Order: SVU. The other 3% of the callers are actually Ice-T himself, and the other 2% are the dude who asked Pinto and Flounder if he could dance with their dates in the road trip sequence of Animal House.

Another possible explanation is the difference between the voting process in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Voting for a Democratic candidate in the Iowa primaries is done in a caucus--ironically, a process that has a lot in common with the way Republican politicians like their religion. It's done in a very public, overly complex process that none of the participants seem to fully understand, but that lets everyone know where you stand politically.

Voting for a candidate in the New Hampshire primaries is done by ballot--ironically, a process that has a lot in common with the way Republican politicians like their sex. It's done secretly, in a booth, where your neighbors might be creeped out if they knew who you were really punching a hole in.

I think you've learned enough for now.


But seriously, somebody should chop Hillary as a dj or something.


Posted by RJT on Jan-10-2008 01:58:

I felt it in my butt.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-10-2008 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I felt it in my butt.

Which candidate(s) do you like best?


Posted by smokeape on Jan-10-2008 02:02:

Re: Hillary won in New Hampshire

quote:
Originally posted by Lesbianosaur
Praise be.



Please chop.


God help us all. We don't want that in the White House.


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by RJT on Jan-10-2008 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Which candidate(s) do you like best?


Yikes - that's a bit of a loaded question.

Simply put, I'd like it if Obama got the democrat nod because at least I wouldn't feel bad about casting a ballot for the dems - though the candidate whose values were probably Mike Gravel.

I will not vote for Hilary Clinton.

Either way, I'm pretty fed up with American politics in general, and I am already frustrated to no end with this election year (and it's only January 9th).


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-10-2008 02:14:

I'm wondering if ol' Ron Paul is going to run as an independent after he fails to get the Repub nomination. That would really mix things up.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-10-2008 02:18:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I'm wondering if ol' Ron Paul is going to run as an independent after he fails to get the Repub nomination. That would really mix things up.


lol, please don't turn this into another Ron Paul thread.

Read this and leave it at that:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.h...15-4532a7da84ca


Posted by verndogs on Jan-10-2008 02:19:

I hate New Hampshire democrats


Posted by miamitranceman on Jan-10-2008 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Yikes - that's a bit of a loaded question.

Simply put, I'd like it if Obama got the democrat nod because at least I wouldn't feel bad about casting a ballot for the dems - though the candidate whose values were probably Mike Gravel.






Gravel? Yeeeeesh. He seemed incredibly out of touch with society during the debates.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-10-2008 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lesbianosaur
lol, please don't turn this into another Ron Paul thread.

Hey, I don't care for Paul, but I don't think you can deny the impact an independent run by him would have on the dynamics of the general election.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-10-2008 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Hey, I don't care for Paul, but I don't think you can deny the impact an independent run by him would have on the dynamics of the general election.


I don't think he'd do any better than Nader did in '00, though you can argue that made a pretty big impact I guess.

But if Bloomberg actually declares as a Unity '08 independent... that might get very interesting.


Posted by leph555 on Jan-10-2008 02:32:

someone chop a dj deck in front of her


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-10-2008 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Lesbianosaur
I don't think he'd do any better than Nader did in '00, though you can argue that made a pretty big impact I guess.

Exactly. Barring a Repub nomination of McCain, I'm predicting a Democratic win this time around. Paul entering the race could change that.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-10-2008 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Exactly. Barring a Repub nomination of McCain, I'm predicting a Democratic win this time around. Paul entering the race could change that.


Naw, I still think he hurts the Republicans more than the Dems. Libertarians are still under the impression that all Democrats are socialists.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-10-2008 02:38:

I hope that Huckabee wins the Repub nomination so that it's just a massacre.


Posted by leph555 on Jan-10-2008 02:39:

Richardson Drops Out of Democratic Race

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/u...son.html?ref=us


Posted by Arbiter on Jan-10-2008 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Mike Gravel.



Posted by chadi on Jan-10-2008 03:30:

I sure hope Obama doesn't win .

Ron Paul FTW...but I know he won't win.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-10-2008 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by chadi
Ron Paul FTW...but I know he won't win.


Yeah, America isn't so fond of the racist, bigoted hypocrites anymore. No matter how often they drop the word "Constitution."


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-10-2008 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Lesbianosaur
Yeah, America isn't so fond of the racist, bigoted hypocrites anymore.

Did he actually write those bigoted newsletters?


Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-10-2008 03:40:

if romney wins... well, let's just hope that ****** doesnt.



obama for the dems and mcain for the reps



they're all a bunch of douches though


obama has no experience and hillary is a tightass bitch


Posted by Project-K on Jan-10-2008 03:42:

I kinda like hillary


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