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Trance Scene in Montreal

Hello,
I came to Montreal 5 weeks ago, and went to some night clubs with some friends. I Realized that Trance music is mostly inexistent here (i only know that Stereo organizes a Trance event once a month: Trancemission..but nothing else). The dominant music is the Electro, Prog House, and Commercial Music.

Am I right, or am I generalizing?

big raves are the only exception to your assumption

Ya i know..I was talking about the "usual" programs at clubs.
NO TRANCE?

None.

I am also a big trance fan, and unfortunately pretty non existent other than what has been mentioned thus far on this thread. But if we remain hopeful maybe one day there will be a club that will play trance. That would be super sweet.

trance is dead

^ that's why all people stand in line when TRANCE events occur! :P
(eg. BAL EN BLANC)

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Originally posted by Ranim ^ that's why all people stand in line when TRANCE events occur! :P (eg. BAL EN BLANC)

BeB has two rooms. so technically it is not only trance.

plus define all people? i for one wouldn't be caught dead in a line, full of people seeing some trance dj ... certain exception would probably be niklas harding and ozgur can, and last i checked they sort of play god knows what now.

also a lot of people go out, and have no fucking clue what they are listening to because they are on god knows what sort of "pharmaceutical" thing.

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Originally posted by jesteraver BeB has two rooms. so technically it is not only trance. plus define all people? i for one wouldn't be caught dead in a line, full of people seeing some trance dj ... certain exception would probably be niklas harding and ozgur can, and last i checked they sort of play god knows what now. also a lot of people go out, and have no fucking clue what they are listening to because they are on god knows what sort of "pharmaceutical" thing.

Oh yes i totally agree on that! People go to whatever gig is..just to Dance and go on drugs! That's bad!

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Originally posted by Ranim Oh yes i totally agree on that! People go to whatever gig is..just to Dance and go on drugs! That's bad!

one thing i am happy to say, some of the members on here finally wised up over the years and are slowly stopping or stopped using finally some clean members on this board

boo how boring

hahahaha jk

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Originally posted by Marcus007 boo how boring hahahaha jk

kaboom

If you want Trance, there's something happening at RedLite on Feb 15th. Insomnia, Wizz and Second Sun. I don't like Second Sun that much but I'll go for Insomnia and Wizz.

I'm a huge Trance fan, probably one of the few here on the MTLTA forum and I usually go to most of the Trance events in Mtl.

BeB is not to be missed with Armin, Ferry and Menno.

Also, there are Trancemissions each months at Stereo. Some are interesting and some aren't. On Jan 25th, Rank-1 with Gabriel Batz.

there is no weekly scene for trance heads


no push for trance every weekend


there may still be a lot of people who like trance, but not enough to support anything consistent apart from big parties with massive names

If you want trance, of course you can check out the Stereo monthly. Also, several "undergroud" rave parties are organised each month by smaller promoters. Usually they are listed on rave.ca in the calendar page.

As for the massives, they are the only viable solution to play trance, because they attract the ignorant-jock-my-girlfriend-wants-me-to-dance-to-some-techno-music-called-tiesto-but-its-ok-cause-theres-chicks-undressed-and-i'm-high-as-fuck.

So technically, there is like 12 trance aficionados left in montreal.

my guess is much lower my friend

So you think if a club here starts doing a weekly trance night, barely some people will attend?

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Originally posted by Ranim So you think if a club here starts doing a weekly trance night, barely some people will attend?

highly doubt it. as allied said there isn't a consistant support system for holding trance events every week. havent been to many pure trance events but the ones i've been to have been pretty mediocre especially armin @ stereo imo. trance in general doesn't really have a strong fan base anyway. the house/minimal movement has literally almost swept away all of europe and north america. but im sure if you did deep enough you can find some quality trance events not including the usual suspects like armin, ferry etc. either way, house is above all else!

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Originally posted by DJ Eterno either way, house is above all else!

...i highly disagree with that

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Originally posted by Ranim ...i highly disagree with that

ahaha why am i not surprised!

As someone that co-ran a very successful trance weekly in Vancouver for 2-2.5 years, I can tell you a few reasons why it won't work in Montreal:

1) Trance nights usually attract a mostly pilled-out crowd, which is bad for bar sales.
2) Most fans of other EDM dislike trance and tend to be at least a tad more open-minded to other forms of it. A breaks fan may show up to a house night, but he probably won't show up to a trance night (in my experience, I know what I'm saying is really general and obviously not true 100% of the time).
3a) There aren't enough people to make a weekly work if it's not on a Friday or Saturday.
3b) More mainstream forms of music will net more money on a Friday or Saturday than trance.

So why did the night I ran work? Because it was on a Friday and the club manager liked trance. He could have shut us down for a hip-hop/r&b night and made more money, but he liked what we were doing so let us continue doing it.

Furthermore, as someone who used to eat, shit and breathe trance, I'd argue that a lot of the crap coming out in the past year is re-hashed garbage that is more or less just mimicing the sound of 2002, adding a layer of over-production, and getting played by the main jocks despite sucking. I'm a massive fan of Sander van Doorn because the sound he's pushing is at least something different than the records I was playing 7-8 years ago, but the DJs I used to look up to in the genre are for the most part playing garbage.

This is all of course just in my opinion; taste of music is obviously very subjective, and I know that a lot of the shit I'm listening to these days would probably be hated by the vast majority of the world's population, so I'm not trying to be an elitist. Trance is not dead and may never be, but at least in my mind the quality has gone downhill in the past 1.5-2 years.

I'll also add that the sound that really made me fall in love with trance was the early 2000-2001 spaced-out trance, stuff like Accadia - Into the Dawn (James Holden remix), or early MIKE productions, stuff that you could just as easily rock out to on a dancefloor as you could close your eyes and disappear. I'd argue that that sound, the one I fell in love with, has progressed more towards the kinda tracks that guys like Digweed are playing these days more than the likes of Armin, who was once my favourite DJ.

Take it with a grain of salt -- that's just my triple gin-tonic with 2-dollar tip.

^ Trance quality did not go down in my opinion..only The trend changed..
We lived the Uplifting Peak, then moved to the Progressive Trance peak, then 2 yrs ago, the Tech-Trance revolution started (SvD, Cor Fijneman, Richard Durand), and today, Electro infleunced Trance is also starting to cover the scene (eg. Marcus Schossow).
In my opinion, Trance's trend changed, but the quality stays there! Yes, many CRAP releases exist, but if you really search, you'll still find some quality stuff!

The difference also exists in the number of producers producing Trance. Back in 2000, they could be counted easily. Nowadays, a huge number of labels and producers entered the industry! We have crappy release released more than quality ones, so Percentage of Quality Trance release is going down, but the Quantity of the Quality is going up!

Anyway, thaat was a bit out of the subject. But just wanted to state my opinion abt this issue..

Now back to the Trance scene..oh well, Commercial music is the best at attracting clubbers..that's totally true. I just hope a TRANCE LOVER creates his own club soon then!! :P

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Originally posted by Sean Walsh As someone that co-ran a very successful trance weekly in Vancouver for 2-2.5 years, I can tell you a few reasons why it won't work in Montreal: 1) Trance nights usually attract a mostly pilled-out crowd, which is bad for bar sales. 2) Most fans of other EDM dislike trance and tend to be at least a tad more open-minded to other forms of it. A breaks fan may show up to a house night, but he probably won't show up to a trance night (in my experience, I know what I'm saying is really general and obviously not true 100% of the time). 3a) There aren't enough people to make a weekly work if it's not on a Friday or Saturday. 3b) More mainstream forms of music will net more money on a Friday or Saturday than trance. So why did the night I ran work? Because it was on a Friday and the club manager liked trance. He could have shut us down for a hip-hop/r&b night and made more money, but he liked what we were doing so let us continue doing it. Furthermore, as someone who used to eat, shit and breathe trance, I'd argue that a lot of the crap coming out in the past year is re-hashed garbage that is more or less just mimicing the sound of 2002, adding a layer of over-production, and getting played by the main jocks despite sucking. I'm a massive fan of Sander van Doorn because the sound he's pushing is at least something different than the records I was playing 7-8 years ago, but the DJs I used to look up to in the genre are for the most part playing garbage. This is all of course just in my opinion; taste of music is obviously very subjective, and I know that a lot of the shit I'm listening to these days would probably be hated by the vast majority of the world's population, so I'm not trying to be an elitist. Trance is not dead and may never be, but at least in my mind the quality has gone downhill in the past 1.5-2 years. I'll also add that the sound that really made me fall in love with trance was the early 2000-2001 spaced-out trance, stuff like Accadia - Into the Dawn (James Holden remix), or early MIKE productions, stuff that you could just as easily rock out to on a dancefloor as you could close your eyes and disappear. I'd argue that that sound, the one I fell in love with, has progressed more towards the kinda tracks that guys like Digweed are playing these days more than the likes of Armin, who was once my favourite DJ. Take it with a grain of salt -- that's just my triple gin-tonic with 2-dollar tip.

Insterestingly enough, it never worked in Victoria either. All that's left is House and top 40's here, which is bad enough.

On a side note, I find trance to be awesome to listen to at home. But not in a club setting - There I prefer House/Prog/whatever else. It is just a lot more enjoyable in that type of atmosphere and sound system.


p.s. jesteraver - niklas harding is the shit. He was so much fun to hang out with when he came down to Van. Silly boy, he's a good friend of mine's friend, so I've heard some horrible/interesting stories about him too

Jesus pose armin tiesto pvd trance killed it.

Trance is soooo 2000-2001.

Anyways, after Exhale, there was nothing left to produce

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Originally posted by julien2 Anyways, after Out of the Blue, there was nothing left to produce

fixed

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