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Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-25-2008 18:40:

Favorite Unknown Games

I'm sure this thread idea has been done to death, but whatever, I just wanna stimulate some good ol' game reminiscing, games that many may have not really scoped out.

Sky Oddysee - PS2 - A little gem of a game here, this relaxing gaming experience launched a week or two after the PS2 made its US debut back in 2000. It was an airplane game that had you doing relatively simple tasks involving flying. On paper, it sounds easy, but the challenges get thrown at you from every direction. The developers do a good job of making a simplistic game concept and getting a good time out of it.

Herzog Zwei - Genesis - Mentioned before on these forums, its worth bringing up again mainly for its being among the first real-time strategy games on a home gaming system. Turn based games have been done since video games were born, but real time was a relatively new concept at the time of this games release, and the fact that it was on a console and not a PC made it that much more special. Explaining this game's concept is pretty hard, but it goes along the lines of you having a "mother base", and your objective is to destroy the opposing mother base via construction of an army. You are a jet that can transform into a walking robot, and vice versa, bringing the battles to both land and air. You take over smaller bases to increase your income so that you can build more units. Its essentially a 1 vs 1 affair, your jet versus the enemy. You are both racing to construct your armies, take over the smaller bases, and destroy the enemy HQ. If you care to learn how to play (which doesnt take too long), you really should try this out.

One - PSone - This game is pure chaos, and I mean that in the best way possible. You are a fugitive on the run, and the police are after you every step of the way. Constantly running and gunning, the chase sequences are exhilarating to say the least, with you controlling the hero on rooftops, tight corridors, and on moving platforms, all while being shot at by every single police officer on the planet. The health and weapons systems were unique in that they were the same thing. The more health you had, the more powerful your weapon. When you were on the verge of death, your firing was puny and nearly ineffective. Since every PS3, even the 40GB, can play PSone games, see if you can find this piece of gold at EB or online, and check it out ASAP.

Cannon Spike - Dreamcast - Ported from the arcades, Capcom developed a nifty little arena type game here. There are 10 small stages, all of which can be completed within a matter of minutes. Might sound like a turn-off, but let us not forget that this game is HARD. Most games these days are hardly challenging, so something like this is a relief of sorts.

Mars Matrix - Dreamcast - In my opinion the greatest shooting game of all time, Capcom unleashed this ace of spades right around the demise of the Dream machine, so very few got to experience its insane difficulty, intuitive special weapons system, and crazy boss designs. If you are into the R-Type/Gradius type of game, you owe yourself to see this in action.

Solar Striker - Game Boy - Way back in the day, I played mainly 3 games on my GB, Kirby's Pinball Land, Super Mario 2, and this. Just like Gradius in its playstyle, this game has some of the most memorable music I've ever heard. Play it once and you will be humming probably until 2009.

Defenders of Oasis - Game Gear - Not much can be said of Sega's battery chewing fatty of a handheld, but there were some good games to be had nonetheless, with this gem being no exception. An RPG with the storyline depth of a console game, this piece of platinum software made more money for Energizer from me than anything else put on Sega's Game Boy competitor.

Sonic CD - Sega CD - Anyone ever played this? Did you know that many hardcore gamers and video game magazine editors argue and debate that this is the greatest Sonic game of all-time? Very few even know about that since very few were suckered into the failed attempts that were the Sega CD/32X (among the biggest atrocities in gaming history, right up there with E.T. for the Atari 2600, the $700 3D0, and the nauseating Virtual Boy) It was released as a budget title on the PC back in the late 90's, and I'm betting its easy to find. If you like 2-D Sonic games and have yet to play this, do it. This was the only reason anyone even considered buying the Sega CD.


I'll think of more later. Sorry for the long reads.


Posted by verndogs on Jan-25-2008 19:31:


Posted by Pjotr G on Jan-25-2008 23:37:

propellor arena - dreamcast
A game dating from the final days of the dreamcast, it was never released because it was apparently set for release right after 9/11, and the game allowed you to crash your plane into skyscrapers. This political correctness screwed gamers hard, cause this is a great game, my favourite on the dreamcast. It's a propellor-powered plane deathmatch, set in nice generic environments ("City", "Airfield", "Air" etc), accompanied with a decent punkrock soundtrack.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-26-2008 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G
propellor arena - dreamcast
A game dating from the final days of the dreamcast, it was never released because it was apparently set for release right after 9/11, and the game allowed you to crash your plane into skyscrapers. This political correctness screwed gamers hard, cause this is a great game, my favourite on the dreamcast. It's a propellor-powered plane deathmatch, set in nice generic environments ("City", "Airfield", "Air" etc), accompanied with a decent punkrock soundtrack.


I remember 100% reading an article some time in early 2002, saying the US release was cancelled due to, surprise surprise, 9/11.


Posted by Fledz on Jan-26-2008 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs


That's not an uknown game. It's critically acclaimed by most gamers, even though the reviewers never hyped it up enough.


Posted by verndogs on Jan-26-2008 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
That's not an uknown game. It's critically acclaimed by most gamers, even though the reviewers never hyped it up enough.


It's critically acclaimed by the game review magazines, but it was a massive commercial flop that signaled the end of the adventure game. I was one of the few that bought the game when it came out 10(!!!) years ago because of its reviews. It's safe to say that this game is relatively unknown by the masses.


Posted by Fledz on Jan-26-2008 05:45:

Yes sigh, the death of adventure games. I love (loved?) adventure games


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-26-2008 07:41:

Re: Favorite Unknown Games

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
Herzog Zwei - Genesis - Mentioned before on these forums, its worth bringing up again mainly for its being among the first real-time strategy games on a home gaming system. Turn based games have been done since video games were born, but real time was a relatively new concept at the time of this games release, and the fact that it was on a console and not a PC made it that much more special. Explaining this game's concept is pretty hard, but it goes along the lines of you having a "mother base", and your objective is to destroy the opposing mother base via construction of an army. You are a jet that can transform into a walking robot, and vice versa, bringing the battles to both land and air. You take over smaller bases to increase your income so that you can build more units. Its essentially a 1 vs 1 affair, your jet versus the enemy. You are both racing to construct your armies, take over the smaller bases, and destroy the enemy HQ. If you care to learn how to play (which doesnt take too long), you really should try this out.


abso-freaking-lutely. its funny how badly this game was received, yet makes just about every top 100 games of all time list you see these days. completely too far ahead for its time. as far as i know, it IS the first RTS ever made? whats really funny is map control in that game was more important than most RTS titles released since!

probably my #1 underrated title ever

wonderboy and the draon's trap/curse (master system)

everyone always remembers the mario boys, but rarely considers the much more sophisticated wonderboy II (monsterworld) and III the dragon's trap. a platformer/adventure game where instead of a static, side-scolling platformer, you basically moved around as you saw fit, buying armour and weapons, potions, spells etc. in III you also had about 6 different animals you could change into that would allow you to do different things and get to different places. its one of the few 8 bit games that still get me off today.


Posted by Project-K on Jan-26-2008 17:17:

Cool Spot (SNES)



Sure, the whole game was a balant 7up commercial - but it was fun as hell. Nothing beats jumping on bubbles inside a soda bottle to cheesy dance music. This game was kickass.



Top Gear 3000 (SNES)



20th century cars in the year 3000, equiped with nuclear reactors, jump jets, tractor beams and teleportation drives. Need I say more?


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-26-2008 19:53:

Re: Re: Favorite Unknown Games

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
completely too far ahead for its time. as far as i know, it IS the first RTS ever made?


Wow, you know what? According to Wikipedia (and there ARE sources, so its legit):

"Herzog Zwei for the Sega Genesis in 1989 is the earliest example of a game with a feature set that falls under the contemporary definition of modern RTS."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_strategy

If you read, it says that there were some early PC games that may have been "technically" RTS games, but Herzog Zwei was the first one under the current definition of what an RTS game in modern day is.

I NEVER knew that. Wow, this game was even more revolutionary than I thought.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-26-2008 19:54:

Oh and Project-K, FANTASTIC mentions, I actually played both, remember some good times with those games.


Posted by Fledz on Jan-27-2008 07:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
Cool Spot (SNES)



Sure, the whole game was a balant 7up commercial - but it was fun as hell. Nothing beats jumping on bubbles inside a soda bottle to cheesy dance music. This game was kickass.


Are you serious? That game is terrible.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-27-2008 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Are you serious? That game is terrible.


I had a good time with it when I was....7? 8?


Posted by Project-K on Jan-27-2008 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I had a good time with it when I was....7? 8?


I had a good time with it last week


Posted by mezzir on Jan-28-2008 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I had a good time with it when I was....7? 8?

hah yeah, i played it back in elementary school and loved it for no apparent reason


Posted by Fledz on Jan-28-2008 03:02:

Must be the fact that I was 15 or so when I played it then


Posted by Scottaculous on Jan-28-2008 14:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Yes sigh, the death of adventure games. I love (loved?) adventure games


QFT

My favorite was Starflight 2



Space adventure game. <3


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Jan-28-2008 21:31:

Awesome to see mentions of Wonderboy 3: The Dragon's Trap and Defenders of Oasis, those are 2 of my favorite games of all time!

I'd say some of mine:

Internal Section - a Japanese-only PS1 tube shooter released by Squaresoft of all people. Great trance and EDM soundtrack, and amazing hi-res visuals

Rez - This game is has a devout cult following but there are a lot of people who haven't played this masterpiece. Look up a video online if you have no idea what it is.

Valkyrie Profile - Awesome Nordic-themed RPG with side scrolling platforming sections and a combo-based battle system.

Langrisser/Warsong - Strategy RPG for Genesis where you command large armies to do battle.


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-28-2008 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
Awesome to see mentions of Wonderboy 3: The Dragon's Trap and Defenders of Oasis, those are 2 of my favorite games of all time!

I'd say some of mine:

Internal Section - a Japanese-only PS1 tube shooter released by Squaresoft of all people. Great trance and EDM soundtrack, and amazing hi-res visuals

Rez - This game is has a devout cult following but there are a lot of people who haven't played this masterpiece. Look up a video online if you have no idea what it is.

Valkyrie Profile - Awesome Nordic-themed RPG with side scrolling platforming sections and a combo-based battle system.

Langrisser/Warsong - Strategy RPG for Genesis where you command large armies to do battle.


Outstanding fuckin list. Warsong was gold, Internal Section is something I should check out, and Rez...well, if you are a TA and a gamer, you know what Rez is. BTW, for all 360 owners, word on the street is that Rez is getting a release on XBLA, which will be HUGE. that'll be the marketing push the game needs to get the success it originally deserved.


Posted by Gen3r4l1ty on Jan-28-2008 23:06:

Re: Re: Favorite Unknown Games

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN

wonderboy and the draon's trap/curse (master system)

everyone always remembers the mario boys, but rarely considers the much more sophisticated wonderboy II (monsterworld) and III the dragon's trap. a platformer/adventure game where instead of a static, side-scolling platformer, you basically moved around as you saw fit, buying armour and weapons, potions, spells etc. in III you also had about 6 different animals you could change into that would allow you to do different things and get to different places. its one of the few 8 bit games that still get me off today.



Omg someone else actually owned a Master System? I thought I was the only one! But seriously... so many good titles on that system... Phantasy Star I, Golvellius, Y's...I cant even count how many times I've played through WBIII!

(BTW... any of you master system folk own any of the 3D games that used the glasses? Those things were heavy as fuck... but the 3d effect actually worked pretty well for the time. Better than the freakin virtual boy. [maze-hunter 3d ftw])


Posted by Fledz on Jan-28-2008 23:46:

Hell yea I still have my Master System II.

*pulls out Double Dragon*


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-29-2008 08:43:

I've never even played a Master System of any sort, but I hear its a big deal that I have Phantasy Star IV on cartridge for Sega Genesis.
I also have II.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-29-2008 09:18:

yeah, phantasy star on the megadrive was wicked. "shining in the darkness" was a "3d" dungeon scrolling RPG which was awesome as well, i loved the storyline.


Posted by Gen3r4l1ty on Jan-29-2008 16:55:

quote:
Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
I've never even played a Master System of any sort, but I hear its a big deal that I have Phantasy Star IV on cartridge for Sega Genesis.
I also have II.

yea, still have 2 -4 for gen as well. All classics in my mind.

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, phantasy star on the megadrive was wicked. "shining in the darkness" was a "3d" dungeon scrolling RPG which was awesome as well, i loved the storyline.


Yikes! Someone else remembers shining in the darkness! Now THERES an obscure one. Man... all this nostalgia is making my wanna bust out my old consoles.


Posted by BTG on Jan-30-2008 03:18:




Spent hours playing this on Sega TV with my cousins, definitely more fun than blades of steel. Games would usually end when you murdered the whole team and you won by default. Very satisfying.




Got this at Costco for $14 on pc when i was like 12. Never heard about it but played it for hours and hours. Never beat it though. Pity.




Tongue of the Fatman was the first "Street Fighter" style game that I played that had something different to offer. After every match, you could buy weapons to use in the fight. More money means you could buy more destructive weapons. It was incredibly cheap, with some weapons killing you instantly, and others would make you fall asleep for 30 seconds or so, which is more than enough time for the other guy to kill you.




Played this for a long time, for many years. Think I beat it, but what does it matter? Basic sidescroll but was cool back in the day.




Ninja Rabbit: You were a Ninja Rabbit. You killed bad guys with a stick. A+




3D action with jaw dropping graphics. Never beat it.



Blatant ripoff of mario cart. But for PC!




Probably more popular than some of the titles, but definetly very good. only had the demo but i played a lot of it.


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