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This is the "freedom" our soldiers are fighting for?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...hts-775972.html
Sentenced to death: Afghan who dared to read about women's rights
By Kim Sengupta
Thursday, 31 January 2008
A young man, a student of journalism, is sentenced to death by an Islamic court for downloading a report from the internet. The sentence is then upheld by the country's rulers. This is Afghanistan � not in Taliban times but six years after "liberation" and under the democratic rule of the West's ally Hamid Karzai.
The fate of Sayed Pervez Kambaksh has led to domestic and international protests, and deepening concern about erosion of civil liberties in Afghanistan. He was accused of blasphemy after he downloaded a report from a Farsi website which stated that Muslim fundamentalists who claimed the Koran justified the oppression of women had misrepresented the views of the prophet Mohamed.
Mr Kambaksh, 23, distributed the tract to fellow students and teachers at Balkh University with the aim, he said, of provoking a debate on the matter. But a complaint was made against him and he was arrested, tried by religious judges without � say his friends and family � being allowed legal representation and sentenced to death.
The Independent is launching a campaign today to secure justice for Mr Kambaksh. The UN, human rights groups, journalists' organisations and Western diplomats have urged Mr Karzai's government to intervene and free him. But the Afghan Senate passed a motion yesterday confirming the death sentence.
The MP who proposed the ruling condemning Mr Kambaksh was Sibghatullah Mojaddedi, a key ally of Mr Karzai. The Senate also attacked the international community for putting pressure on the Afghan government and urged Mr Karzai not to be influenced by outside un-Islamic views.
The case of Mr Kambaksh, who also worked a s reporter for the Jahan-i-Naw (New World) newspaper, is seen in Afghanistan as yet another chapter in the escalation in the confrontation between Afghanistan and the West.
It comes in the wake of Mr Karzai accusing the British of actually worsening the situation in Helmand province by their actions and his subsequent blocking of the appointment of Lord Ashdown as the UN envoy and expelling a British and an Irish diplomat.
Demonstrations, organised by clerics, against the alleged foreign interference have been held in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif, where Mr Kambaksh was arrested. Aminuddin Muzafari, the first secretary of the houses of parliament, said: "People should realise that as we are representatives of an Islamic country therefore we can never tolerate insults to reverences of Islamic religion."
At a gathering in Takhar province, Maulavi Ghulam Rabbani Rahmani, the heads of the Ulema council, said: "We want the government and the courts to execute the court verdict on Kambaksh as soon as possible." In Parwan province, another senior cleric, Maulavi Muhammad Asif, said: "This decision is for disrespecting the holy Koran and the government should enforce the decision before it came under more pressure from foreigners."
UK officials say they are particularly concerned about such draconian action being taken against a journalist. The Foreign Office and Department for International Development has donated large sums to the training of media workers in the country. The Government funds the Institute for War and Peace Reporting (IWPR) in the Helmand capital, Lashkar Gar.
Mr Kambaksh's brother, Sayed Yaqub Ibrahimi, is also a journalist and has written articles for IWPR in which he accused senior public figures, including an MP, of atrocities, including murders. He said: "Of course we are all very worried about my brother. What has happened to him is very unjust. He has not committed blasphemy and he was not even allowed to have a legal defence. and what took place was a secret trial."
Qayoum Baabak, the editor of Jahan-i-Naw, said a senior prosecutor in Mazar-i-Sharif, Hafiz Khaliqyar, had warned journalists that they would be punished if they protested against the death sentence passed on Mr Kambaksh.
Jean MacKenzie, country director for IWPR, said: "We feel very strongly that this is designed to put pressure on Pervez's brother, Yaqub, who has done some of the hardest-hitting pieces outlining abuses by some very powerful commanders."
Rahimullah Samander, the president of the Afghan Independent Journalists' Association, said: "This is unfair, this is illegal. He just printed a copy of something and looked at it and read it. How can we believe in this 'democracy' if we can't even read, we can't even study? We are asking Mr Karzai to quash the death sentence before it is too late."
The circumstances surrounding the conviction of Mr Kambaksh are also being viewed as a further attempt to claw back the rights gained by women since the overthrow of the Taliban. The most prominent female MP, Malalai Joya, has been suspended after criticising her male colleagues.
Under the Afghan constitution, say legal experts, Mr Kambaksh has the right to appeal to the country's supreme court. Some senior clerics maintain, however, that since he has been convicted under religious laws, the supreme court should not bring secular interpretations to the case.
Mr Karzai has the right to intervene and pardon Mr Kambaksh. However, even if he is freed, it would be hard for the student to escape retribution in a country where fundamentalists and warlords are increasingly in the ascendancy.
How you can save Pervez
Sayed Pervez Kambaksh's imminent execution is an affront to civilised values. It is not, however, a foregone conclusion. If enough international pressure is brought to bear on President Karzai's government, his sentence may yet be overturned. Add your weight to the campaign by urging the Foreign Office to demand that his life be spared. Sign our e-petition at www.independent.co.uk/petition
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"meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
Wow
This comes after yesterday i saw reports on both CNN and BBC that Afghanistan is on the brink of becoming
YET AGAIN a "failed state".
*sigh*
I may be wrong, but reading what direction that country is going in, it seems that one fundamentalist state is just being replaced by another. I can see Islam being used as a form of fighting foreign influence and washout of the Afghani culture, but at the same time I can never agree with anything pertaining to killing in the name of religion.
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| Originally posted by zokissima I can never agree with anything pertaining to killing in the name of religion. |
Re: This is the "freedom" our soldiers are fighting for?
"Civilization is crumbling"
you almost have to ask yourself after reading about something like this -- is this what we should look forward to with Iraq as well?
for all the hype and rhetoric about getting rid of evil rulers and freeing peoples who have suffered a lack of freedoms and rights... are we allowing the old guard to be replaced with more of the old guard?
IMO we shouldn't be sticking our noses where they don't belong.
wow....reading this is one of those things that makes you take a deep breath and sigh at how unfair and incomprehensible a situation can be. imagine how much trouble most of us would have been in long ago for encountering information the government didn't want us to know.
it's funny. reading something like that and then coming across an article about our oh-so-enlightened american counterparts:
(via digg)
http://www.sixhoursaweek.com/2008/0...-news.html#more
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| Originally posted by daves for all the hype and rhetoric about getting rid of evil rulers and freeing peoples who have suffered a lack of freedoms and rights... are we allowing the old guard to be replaced with more of the old guard? |
It's no different than some of the whacked up loonie stuff you read about fundamentalist Christians or some nutty cults in Western worlds.
Or other stupid govt laws we hear about in the news
Nobody ever said Afghanistan is going to get fixed over night
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| Originally posted by ChemEnhanced IMO we shouldn't be sticking our noses where they don't belong. |
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| Originally posted by daves you almost have to ask yourself after reading about something like this -- is this what we should look forward to with Iraq as well? for all the hype and rhetoric about getting rid of evil rulers and freeing peoples who have suffered a lack of freedoms and rights... are we allowing the old guard to be replaced with more of the old guard? |
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| Originally posted by exstasie Exactly. Let them deal with their own problems. If they can't fix, tough luck on them. That's their own fault. |
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| Originally posted by zokissima If that's the case, why the hell do we have troops stationed there in the first place? |
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| Originally posted by exstasie Exactly. Let them deal with their own problems. If they can't fix, tough luck on them. That's their own fault. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard While I somewhat agree, you must keep in mind that the ramifications of their not being able to fix their own problems can affect us and/or our allies. What you've stated is tantamount to saying... "let the poor fend for themselves," which is all well and good until they start fending for themselves by robbing your house. |
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| Originally posted by exstasie I know everyone wants to create the peaceful global world where we all live in harmony but realistically speaking, that will never happen when the nation with the strongest military has ulterior motives |
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| Originally posted by zokissima If that's the case, why the hell do we have troops stationed there in the first place? |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard We continue to have troops in the theater because withdrawing now will most certainly result in the Taliban again holding power, which is likely to result in another attack down the road, requiring another invasion. |
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| Originally posted by ChemEnhanced IMO we shouldn't be sticking our noses where they don't belong. |
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| Originally posted by exstasie Yes..thats true so then you build a defence system to keep them out. |
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| Originally posted by eRRaTiK so the question remains, how long and what is being done to allow Afghanistan to stand on its own two feet? |
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Gah... So many posts to answer to, but I'll quickly hit on a few for now.
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| Originally posted by capo tutti di +1 on that...it's useless and a waste of life and time, not the people of Afghanistan, but the politics and state of mind of the governments, opposition or otherwise. Which one of our soldiers have died a hero, honestly? It's all been a terrible instance of ambush, "friendly fire" or miscommunication. |
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Really outside of actually being in the middle east as a soldier what threat does Afghanistan pose to us on our native soil? |
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IMO just leave them let them sort it out, if that means rebel forces well then i guess that's what happens...if that were to happen the rebels would likely become bolder and try to push their borders and territories and neighboring countries would likely come in and be as ruthless as the Afghans and regulate. Sounds medieval? perhaps but this is the way these people are living now, Europe and Asia sorted themselves out this way centuries ago, without any help of forces half a world away.. |
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| Originally posted by EvilTree Gah... So many posts to answer to, but I'll quickly hit on a few for now. CF is composed of volunteers. So people sign up, knowing what they are getting into. These soldiers died as 'heroes' by doing their duty. Doesn't matter how they died. There is no 'heroic' way to die in war. You do know that Canadian way of life is pretty much everything that Osama and his band of loonies is completely against? Considering Canada is part of NATO, have free democracy, freedom of speech, religion, whatnot, I don't think fundamentalist Muslims don't like us much. Face the facts, folks. Not everyone loves Canadians. 21st century politics and public pressure don't let wars happen easily. |
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