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Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-07-2008 21:00:

Premiership Games to be played abroad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...rem/7232390.stm

I'm very skeptical about this and a lot of people in the UK are pissed off.

I didn't agree with the NFL playing games in the UK. Why should we have to copy them? Another mass marketing ploy to sell more merchandise rather then the game. If anyone wants to argue the toss that this is not about money then why are they going to stage games in Dubai and not Delhi for an example? Let's hope Glazier, Hicks and Gillett don't get any ideas, it's not a fucking francise lads it's a sport and a damn fine one at that.

To any of you who try and get the game I wish you good luck. As in a stadium of 80,000 only half the tickets will actually go to the REAL fans, the rest will be corperate.


Posted by trunks1022 on Feb-07-2008 21:09:

as much as it'd be cool to see a match here in new york, it just sounds SO WRONG. 39th game!


Posted by chesco on Feb-07-2008 21:22:

Re: Premiership Games to be played abroad

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
As in a stadium of 80,000 only half the tickets will actually go to the REAL fans, the rest will be corperate.


You just described most big grounds around britain at present.

I'm totally against the idea of farming out the national sport to the highest bidder, it may start at 1 game a season but money talks, and I can see it being extended to more than this. Once again the real fans will lose out.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-07-2008 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
as much as it'd be cool to see a match here in new york, it just sounds SO WRONG. 39th game!


+1

I think it would be better if they held an exhibition type tournaments over the summer every year. Say twenty teams from different leagues in Europe, battling out for a cup.

ESPN, Club Owners and the suits at the Premiership HQ are behind this. Guarentee a couple of envelopes containing wads of cash have exchanged hand.

Other thing what if your an Arsenal fan for example and your playing Spurs in Sydney? That's the biggest game of the season for both sets of fans it's quite out of order if stuff like that happens.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-07-2008 21:30:

Re: Re: Premiership Games to be played abroad

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
You just described most big grounds around britain at present.

I'm totally against the idea of farming out the national sport to the highest bidder, it may start at 1 game a season but money talks, and I can see it being extended to more than this. Once again the real fans will lose out.


Exactly we can add Champions league games to that too. These bastards have ripped the heart out of the sport. Corperate hospitality, fans going to the game with no actual interest in the sport, families moved out of the enclosures and put in the main stands.

You've hit the nail on the head, it will probably end up being five games per club. It wouldn't even suprise me if Francises will start coming into if so RIP English football.

Notice how Dubai's got mentioned? Whats wrong with playing the game Dehli for an example.

Someone needs to assassinate Richard Scudamore and the twenty bosses of the clubs. If everyone fan in the UK gave me a fiver and someone supplied me some shooters I'd do it myself and walk out the hero.


Posted by verndogs on Feb-07-2008 21:38:

They should just play the community shield overseas if they wanted to showcase English football

This is going a bit overboard


Posted by trunks1022 on Feb-07-2008 21:51:

maybe we'll get leeds united v oldham by then


Posted by verndogs on Feb-07-2008 22:05:

From one of the comments on the Guardian Unlimited

quote:
The more I think about this the funnier it is.

Can you imagine cities fererishly bidding to host Bolton vs Sunderland?

'Do I hear $100m, $50, $1m....
OK will someone at least offer to pick the teams up at the airport?'





http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2...sing_voyag.html


Posted by verndogs on Feb-07-2008 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
maybe we'll get leeds united v oldham by then


or even better


a rematch of liverpool v. havant & waterlooville


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-07-2008 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
maybe we'll get leeds united v oldham by then




Or even worse Leeds v Millwall. Animal fans.

I never forget when Millwall played Northampton Town. Sixfields (Northamptons grounds in a man made valley so you can watch the games sort of if you stand up on the hill opposite.

Being a teenager at the time and bored we headed down to the sixfields area to watch the game from the hill. There was a few people up on the hill including a number of bald blokes, being naive kids my mate Jamie starts laughing at the herd of millwall fans going crazy when Northampton score. Suddenely one the tattoed bald blokes turns and says in broad South London accent 'You find that funny you fucking little black c*nt' the rest of the pitballs assembling behind him what ensued was us cycling full pelt with a pack of animals in pursuit throwing beer bottles at us.


Posted by chesco on Feb-07-2008 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
Being a teenager at the time and bored we headed down to the sixfields area to watch the game from the hill. There was a few people up on the hill including a number of bald blokes, being naive kids my mate Jamie starts laughing at the herd of millwall fans going crazy when Northampton score. Suddenely one the tattoed bald blokes turns and says in broad South London accent 'You find that funny you fucking little black c*nt' the rest of the pitballs assembling behind him what ensued was us cycling full pelt with a pack of animals in pursuit throwing beer bottles at us.


Quality. Thats what it was all about tho. Real fans, with real commitment and not a care in the world about crushing someones skull just cos they supported the opposition, FANTASTIC!!

I miss those days, even the old firms never end in violence anymore. My home town used to be brilliant when celtic and rangers played. Running battles up and down the street were the norm for a saturday or sunday afternoon kick off.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-07-2008 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
Quality. Thats what it was all about tho. Real fans, with real commitment and not a care in the world about crushing someones skull just cos they supported the opposition, FANTASTIC!!

I miss those days, even the old firms never end in violence anymore. My home town used to be brilliant when celtic and rangers played. Running battles up and down the street were the norm for a saturday or sunday afternoon kick off.


I don't know some people take it a bit too serious. Banters cool violence I'd say no too. I remember the 80's going to games when it got violent it wasn't brilliant. When there is a scene it's always an entertaining to watch so long as your not involved.

Know what you mean about the real fans bit, nowadays stand in the ground some nazi in an orange jacket and the cops tell you sit down. If you even swear you get evils off parents with their kids, it's like go back to the family enclosure if you don't want to hear people swear it's a football match for christ sake.


Posted by nchs09 on Feb-08-2008 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan

ESPN, Club Owners and the suits at the Premiership HQ are behind this. Guarentee a couple of envelopes containing wads of cash have exchanged hand.

Its a business....... everything that happens a big envelope with a wad of cash is exchanged...


Posted by denys envy on Feb-08-2008 16:24:

i'm excited. i wouldn't even mind going to a sunderland/bolton game. the quality of play in the premiership is just so much better and more enjoyable to watch. watching MLS is like everything was just put into slow motion.


Posted by verndogs on Feb-08-2008 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
i'm excited. i wouldn't even mind going to a sunderland/bolton game. the quality of play in the premiership is just so much better and more enjoyable to watch. watching MLS is like everything was just put into slow motion.


that's a kind way of describing the MLS


Posted by bas on Feb-08-2008 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
that's a kind way of describing the MLS

I prefer "retards trying to fuck a door knob" myself

Why do so many people in the UK have problems with this? Is it the adding extra games or the fact their clubs are going to play in another country? I don't get it.


Posted by Elior on Feb-08-2008 19:26:

too lazy to read other replies but it's a fucking joke...

"Against Modern Football"


Posted by Zewad on Feb-08-2008 20:10:

Re: Premiership Games to be played abroad

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
Let's hope Glazier, Hicks and Gillett don't get any ideas, it's not a fucking francise lads it's a sport and a damn fine one at that.


referring to malcom glazer?


Posted by malek on Feb-09-2008 07:13:

rumor has it that Liverpool might play a game in Montreal because of Gillett's implication with the team.


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Feb-10-2008 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
I prefer "retards trying to fuck a door knob" myself

Why do so many people in the UK have problems with this? Is it the adding extra games or the fact their clubs are going to play in another country? I don't get it.


The latter. We don't trust the Moneymen who run the league, what will start off being one game a season will turn into five, money speaks.

Your a Liverpool fan bas? Say Liverpool are playing Everton or Man United in Sydney? Would you be happy if your biggest game in the season is being played on foreign shores?

quote:
referring to malcom glazer?


His one of worst along with Gillett and Hicks. However you have owners on the otherhand like Lerner who run their clubs well and love the sport.

In reality the fans are ones who lose out. The executives at Premier League HQ, the club owners and the corperate suits are ones who win.

quote:
Its a business....... everything that happens a big envelope with a wad of cash is exchanged...


Footballs always been polluted with corruption etc. However what these guys are doing is taking the piss, it's like someone from the street walking into your house eating your dinner, shagging your missus and taking a shit on the living room carpet.

quote:
rumor has it that Liverpool might play a game in Montreal because of Gillett's implication with the team.


Depends how much money you can offer Skudamore and his cronies. It wouldn't suprise me one bit if the bigger teams end up playing in places swimming in cash like Dubai for example.


Posted by Zewad on Feb-10-2008 02:46:

Malcom Glazer has been nothing but wonderful for our football team.... The Buccaneers. since he bought our club in 95 he turned it around and won a super bowl in 2002, new stadium in 99, super bowl will be played in Tampa next year too, and he personally financed the league's best pratice facility and headquarters,.. top notch... he is a greatly respected individual in our community...

we applaud him for purchasing the United and doing for them what he did for us...


Posted by verndogs on Feb-10-2008 04:45:

Honestly, I'm just happy if any of the clubs come over to the US to tour and play friendlies.

Even though I would go to a game if this plan goes through in a heartbeat no matter who's playing, it won't replicate the feeling of going to a match in England.


Posted by bas on Feb-10-2008 15:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
Your a Liverpool fan bas? Say Liverpool are playing Everton or Man United in Sydney? Would you be happy if your biggest game in the season is being played on foreign shores?

Not a good example, ALL their games are played on foreign shores


Posted by Nick82 on Feb-10-2008 22:09:

Anyone who wants to can sign the petition here

http://www.fsf.org.uk/petitions/no-to-game-39/index.php

I could write thousands of words why this shouldn't happen but i'll stick with simply adding 'Sell Out'


Posted by trunks1022 on Feb-10-2008 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Nick82
Anyone who wants to can sign the petition here

http://www.fsf.org.uk/petitions/no-to-game-39/index.php

I could right thousands of words why this shouldn't happen but i'll stick with simply adding 'Sell Out'


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