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Posted by monishb on Feb-17-2008 01:43:

Hd Dvd Dead?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...8&forumid=16&s=

Is it true????


Posted by chinamon on Feb-17-2008 01:58:

yup.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/


Posted by monishb on Feb-17-2008 02:02:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
yup.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/


this gives me a reason to buy a PS3!


Posted by pete242 on Feb-17-2008 02:09:

listen here's the bottom line, HD-DVD didn't work hard and fast enough to keep up with the highdef market. No matter what system you bought for bluray it would adapt to do just about anything the format is made to do, where as HD-DVD didn't, I mean only certain players did certain things, I think the thing that killed it the most was it had a cheaper add on for 360 but it was quite useless as it only did 1080i, no HDMI support, never played TrueHD which was really the only lossless format out there it supported and it wasn't even on this.....what did they expect? even a PS3 will do just about as much as my BD30 will and that is a high end player.


Posted by DarkAngel on Feb-17-2008 02:53:


Posted by chinamon on Feb-17-2008 02:54:

for the first time in my life i have made the right choice.
blu-ray ftw!


Posted by DarkAngel on Feb-17-2008 03:04:




Posted by pete242 on Feb-17-2008 03:19:

LMAO perfect response.


Posted by Playa24_7 on Feb-17-2008 12:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel




hahaha!


Posted by exstasie on Feb-17-2008 14:15:

Yup! It's pretty much dead! Once Toshiba officially leaves then look for the other companies to start jumping over to Blu-Ray!

I hope there are tons of HD DVD sales! Can't wait to pick up some awesome bargains.


Posted by exstasie on Feb-17-2008 14:19:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
for the first time in my life i have made the right choice.
blu-ray ftw!


Do you have a PS3 or standalone BD Player?


Posted by malek on Feb-17-2008 17:36:

quote:
Originally posted by pete242
listen here's the bottom line, HD-DVD didn't work hard and fast enough to keep up with the highdef market. No matter what system you bought for bluray it would adapt to do just about anything the format is made to do, where as HD-DVD didn't, I mean only certain players did certain things, I think the thing that killed it the most was it had a cheaper add on for 360 but it was quite useless as it only did 1080i, no HDMI support, never played TrueHD which was really the only lossless format out there it supported and it wasn't even on this.....what did they expect? even a PS3 will do just about as much as my BD30 will and that is a high end player.


come again? no BD player(other than the ps3) on the market well support the 2.0 profile, BDA has not sorted their shit together yet. And will make your BD30 obsolete. (see here how bda cares about early adopters: http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/1...ing-into-appar/ )

The features supposed to be included in the 2.0 have been ready for a while in the hddvd camp and at a much much lower price.

A solid Toshiba A30 player at 160$ has more features than your overpriced BD30.

Its obviously not the technology that killed hddvd because its still miles ahead of the bluray camp.

Its false hype and buisness intrests that killed it, consumers are losers once again.

I will buy only a combo player when it'll hit the 80$ mark point, till then I'll gladly download these movies I will never pay for overpriced non complete players, especially for a technology coming from Sony.


Posted by malek on Feb-17-2008 17:38:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I hope there are tons of HD DVD sales! Can't wait to pick up some awesome bargains.


yeah same here, a movie is a movie.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Feb-17-2008 18:44:

does this mean that regular DVDs are on their way out in favour of BluRay now too?

I"m sick of all the changes. Nothing is in place for more than 5 years before something else comes out that forces you to re-purchase everything. Goddamn capitalist fucks the lot of them. There's going to be a revolution one day I tell you....


Posted by Cro_Addict on Feb-17-2008 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
does this mean that regular DVDs are on their way out in favour of BluRay now too?

I"m sick of all the changes. Nothing is in place for more than 5 years before something else comes out that forces you to re-purchase everything. Goddamn capitalist fucks the lot of them. There's going to be a revolution one day I tell you....


sketchy post


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Feb-17-2008 18:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Cro_Addict
sketchy post


sarcasm dude. Anyway, don't you get sick of the constant "ok you have to buy this now because it's new and cutting edge". "BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT NOW!!"? It's getting to be a bit much if you ask me. But then again, I haven't purchased a DVD in close to two years, although I did get the complete Kubrick collection for Christmas.

Are regular DVDs soon to be obsolete too?


Posted by Cro_Addict on Feb-17-2008 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
sarcasm dude. Anyway, don't you get sick of the constant "ok you have to buy this now because it's new and cutting edge". "BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT NOW!!"? It's getting to be a bit much if you ask me. But then again, I haven't purchased a DVD in close to two years, although I did get the complete Kubrick collection for Christmas.

Are regular DVDs soon to be obsolete too?


haha i know man..i was just kidding


But yeah I do agree with you. I have yet to buy an HD player. Too much money and just too much hype. Im gonna wait a while.

On topic with this "war"...I am pretty damn pissed. I hate sony anything. HD DVD was truly a better format, technologicaly. The consumer is the loser in the end.

I think Microsoft could have helped out by including the HD DVD play in the xbox...not making it an additional buy. Bad move here.


Posted by Orko on Feb-17-2008 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
Are regular DVDs soon to be obsolete too?


Not at all. They are just too popular and cheap right now. I have an HD TV, but I'm not willing to go out and rebuy my 100+ DVDs.

If you don't want it, don't buy it. Nobody is forcing you to do anything.


Posted by pete242 on Feb-17-2008 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by malek

A solid Toshiba A30 player at 160$ has more features than your overpriced BD30.

Its obviously not the technology that killed hddvd because its still miles ahead of the bluray camp.

Its false hype and buisness intrests that killed it, consumers are losers once again.

I will buy only a combo player when it'll hit the 80$ mark point, till then I'll gladly download these movies I will never pay for overpriced non complete players, especially for a technology coming from Sony.


does the A30 bitstream like a BD30 does? does the A30 play DTS HD MA like the BD30 does? and how often does Panasonic and Sony send out firmware upgrades to keep up its technology compared to Toshiba? combo players? please they kept fucking up, the samsung combo player which would be the first to bitstream high end audio codec formats took forever to get released and once it did, it flopped....so go ahead and waste your money on an $80 combo player. Yes keep the downloads going I am sure it will kill the ability for manufactures to make higher production and keep costs low, ya good job.


Posted by pete242 on Feb-17-2008 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
sarcasm dude. Anyway, don't you get sick of the constant "ok you have to buy this now because it's new and cutting edge". "BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT NOW!!"? It's getting to be a bit much if you ask me. But then again, I haven't purchased a DVD in close to two years, although I did get the complete Kubrick collection for Christmas.

Are regular DVDs soon to be obsolete too?


nah, DVD is not going anywhere, highdef will not kill the market, bluray will not take over, it is too expensive to go mainstream, a rather expensive hobby. DVD may not be as flexible as the bluray format, but if all you want to do is watch a movie and don't need all the fancy gadgets then DVD will be the way for awhile till BD is cheap enough to own as a burner and we have faster connections to download 50-80 GB worth of data. Everything has its time.


Posted by malek on Feb-17-2008 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by pete242
does the A30 bitstream like a BD30 does? does the A30 play DTS HD MA like the BD30 does? and how often does Panasonic and Sony send out firmware upgrades to keep up its technology compared to Toshiba? combo players? please they kept fucking up, the samsung combo player which would be the first to bitstream high end audio codec formats took forever to get released and once it did, it flopped....so go ahead and waste your money on an $80 combo player. Yes keep the downloads going I am sure it will kill the ability for manufactures to make higher production and keep costs low, ya good job.



I think we're not even on the same wavelenght, Sure the A30 doesn't do DTS HD MA(i don't care), but the A35 does at half the price of your BD30. Don't you feel ripped off?

Yes Panasonic sends firmwares, but we're talking about a profile update from 1.1 to 2.0 which most probably your player won't be able to support as the rest of the BD players on the market. Meanwhile, hdddvd was ready since day 1 and its firmwares were to fix bugs not change the whole technology as Sony is scrapping to do.

Why would I waste 80$ on a combo blu/hddvd player? That might happen in 5 years... no rush. I got planet earth on hddvd, i can wait


Posted by malek on Feb-17-2008 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by pete242
nah, DVD is not going anywhere, highdef will not kill the market, bluray will not take over, it is too expensive to go mainstream, a rather expensive hobby. DVD may not be as flexible as the bluray format, but if all you want to do is watch a movie and don't need all the fancy gadgets then DVD will be the way for awhile till BD is cheap enough to own as a burner and we have faster connections to download 50-80 GB worth of data. Everything has its time.


I certainly think that downloadable media will kill blu too, a device with 1+ terabyte of space, with wifi and ethernet for 200$ is not that farfetched in 2 years or so. Cable and DSL internet speeds are being upgraded with speeds of up to 30MBps.

XBOX 360 live lets you download 720p movies now for a few bucks, Itunes too... its just a start.


Posted by pete242 on Feb-17-2008 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
I certainly think that downloadable media will kill blu too, a device with 1+ terabyte of space, with wifi and ethernet for 200$ is not that farfetched in 2 years or so. Cable and DSL internet speeds are being upgraded with speeds of up to 30MBps.

XBOX 360 live lets you download 720p movies now for a few bucks, Itunes too... its just a start.


if we stop getting capped on our up and download rates with Rogers as an ISP then definately yes I see that happening as well, I agree. There are other ways of watching all these formats, such as using NAS systems which can handle up to 4.9 TB at this time imagine how much we can store on these things once network vaults become of more mainstream use and easier to understand how to use, if you are a tech guru they are the way of the future already, too bad there is a waiting list to get them.


Posted by malek on Feb-17-2008 21:49:

The way I see it, is that ISPs might have a major role in those movie downloads... and why not. I know Rogers and Videotron already have rental stores, and already offer streaming HD movies with their PVR terminals.

I don't think they would put a cap on movies you would download from them, the technology is there, its just a matter of time before all the pieces come together.


Posted by malek on Feb-17-2008 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by pete242
NAS systems which can handle up to 4.9 TB at this time imagine how much we can store on these things once network vaults become of more mainstream use and easier to understand how to use,


are you talking about NAS systems for home? because for buisnesses 4.9TB is nothing At my previous workplace, we were looking at getting a NAS for 100TB for a start


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