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Posted by Trancer-adu on May-10-2002 02:48:

Mixing on the computer

Hey guys, I was just wondering... since I'm not priviliged enough to have my own set of tables, do any of you know of a good program for the computer that can be used to mix mp3s? I'm not talking about VirtualTurntables or anything like that... i need something that actually has a mixer with real features in it... thanks

Posted by thomassster on May-10-2002 03:06:

atomixmp3 or mixmeister...2 sound cards are needed to really do some mixing, but for starters, those are the best to start out with. Atomixmp3 might be not have as much features as mixmeister, but it does the job well!

Posted by DJ A.i on May-10-2002 03:42:

try traktor...

Posted by benfica88 on May-10-2002 04:31:

I like atommix the best, just because you can directly mix and make wav files to burno on a cd. I've heard of a lot of people who don't like mixmeister. Traktor seems to be the most proffesional. I'm just learning how to use this one.There's other's but I don't think they are worthy of mentioning.

Posted by FinnHawk on May-10-2002 06:09:

mixmeister is probably the easiest way to make your own mixes, cuz you don't actually have to know how to beatmatch or anything.

PCDJ Red and Traktor are probably the two best computer mixing programs I've used. I really like PCDJ and that's what I use. It has all the features I need. The ONE thing I don't like about Traktor is that you can't adjust the range of the pitch control. At least I couldn't figure out a way. But in PCDJ you can set the pitch control range to whatever you want.

Sal

Posted by rowzbay on May-10-2002 09:58:

i'd have to say mixmeister all the way. i gained so much reputation from making mixing cd's with that before i went to vinyl. my cd's spread quick and now a few people know my namebecause of them, so it gets me more gigs

Posted by DJ_D|ABL0_ on May-10-2002 10:24:

Are you kidding me?? When I want to make a mix CD from MP3s, use mixmeister - no mixing involved. Just tinkering. Atomixmp3 is a toy - and lets be honest, there's no fuckin mixing in that either. One press of the "Magic" button, and bobs your uncle, two tracks at the same speed. A fuckin monkey with no arms could mix on Atomixmp3.

If u want to learn how to mix with real turntables but using MP3, I STRONGLY suggest Virtual Turntables. It's the only way u will get the same feel for missed beats, and having to listen to two channels independantly - proper mixing. No automatic beatmatching here!

All in all, u want to be doing the real thing - so give urself a headstart!

Posted by quddha on May-10-2002 11:09:

true that. if you want the closest thing possible to real cdjs or real turntables, you gotta go with vtt.

Posted by matt_a on May-10-2002 13:23:

Yeh but where can you download these programs for free?

Posted by rowzbay on May-10-2002 14:48:

Download mixmeister here:

http://www.mixmeister.com/download.htm

Posted by Eugene on May-10-2002 15:08:

Somebody here said "don't use AtomixMP3, it's a toy; use Mixmeister instead."

Excuse me for being blunt but this is stupid and incorrect. Mixmeister is a toy, because you set everything up prior to execution, and you don't even need to mix the tracks, because the exact details of the transition are pre-arranged.

In AtomixMP3, though, you DO need to mix. There's nothing pre-arranged for you, you have to make the transition yourself for each pair of songs.

Posted by JohnSmith on May-10-2002 15:32:

VTT
it's the best for mixing. it's just like having a pair of technics, except for the actual starting and stopping the record.

you can download VTT here http://www.carrotinnovations.com

PCDJ and traktor have to many other features, not like turntable mixing imo.

atomix is a joke, a toy, i don't know how people can even use that thing.

mixmeister is good for making CDs, but isn't a dj mixing program, it's more like a wav editor.

there is also BPM studio, a really expensive highclass solution i haven't tried yet.

and finally there is the new kid on the block, which i think is going to rock. open source, free distribution, successor to VTT.

learn all about the "new kid" DTT here: http://www.digitalturntables.co.uk/

for those who don't click links, here's a pic, i can't wait for it to come out.

Posted by FinnHawk on May-10-2002 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_D|ABL0_
Are you kidding me?? When I want to make a mix CD from MP3s, use mixmeister - no mixing involved. Just tinkering. Atomixmp3 is a toy - and lets be honest, there's no fuckin mixing in that either. One press of the "Magic" button, and bobs your uncle, two tracks at the same speed. A fuckin monkey with no arms could mix on Atomixmp3.

If u want to learn how to mix with real turntables but using MP3, I STRONGLY suggest Virtual Turntables. It's the only way u will get the same feel for missed beats, and having to listen to two channels independantly - proper mixing. No automatic beatmatching here!

All in all, u want to be doing the real thing - so give urself a headstart!

Unfortunately VTT isn't being updated anymore, so it's gonna be left in the dust (already has) by programs like PCDJ and Traktor. You can practice mixing like a real DJs on these programs just as well asl VTT... Just turn off the automatic mixing and do it yourself... Actually, I'm not even sure that PCDJ has automatic mixing, cuz if it does I've never used it... I just use it to mix mp3s like a regular DJ would mix records... works great! great practice!

Sal

Posted by FinnHawk on May-10-2002 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by quddha
true that. if you want the closest thing possible to real cdjs or real turntables, you gotta go with vtt.

You should be able to download the full versions of PCDJ red and mixmeister, among others, from file sharing programs like kazaa, grokster, etc...

But you didn't hear it from me...

Sal

Posted by Jocker on May-11-2002 00:00:

as for "feature-loadedness", Traktor is the best. it even has a small effects processor. the only thing the program lacks (like any other computer mixing software) is the ability to switch the auto-bpm off (coz that only distracts me).

Posted by DJ_D|ABL0_ on May-11-2002 01:04:

quote:
]Originally posted by Eugene
Somebody here said "don't use AtomixMP3, it's a toy; use Mixmeister instead."

Excuse me for being blunt but this is stupid and incorrect. Mixmeister is a toy, because you set everything up prior to execution, and you don't even need to mix the tracks, because the exact details of the transition are pre-arranged.

Mixmeister is mix-engineering software. You still have to be able to use it well before your mix sounds good. Admittedly, it's not real mixing - but it's certainly no toy.

quote:

In AtomixMP3, though, you DO need to mix. There's nothing pre-arranged for you, you have to make the transition yourself for each pair of songs.

Remind me where the skill lies in mixing. Many an hour have I sat between a pair of turntables learning how to beat match by ear - don't try to tell me that u learn the same skill in front of atomixmp3. You get a song - play it - get another song, hit the "Magic" button then slip the fader across.

Why the fuck did we ever bother with turntables??! Hmm

Posted by Trypsin on May-11-2002 14:46:

If you want the feel of CD decks use PCDJ Red or BPM Studio. BPM Studio is what I use, as it's more stable. But both replicate decks really closely - just plug it into an external mixer and you're golden.

Posted by vito on May-11-2002 18:18:

i still use vtt 1.8, pity its dead now
but that DTT looks good
looking forward to getting that, if its ever actually released

Posted by attacc on May-11-2002 20:54:

I use Traktor.. think it's awsome, it's easy to beatmatch with it..

Posted by quddha on May-11-2002 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by attacc
I use Traktor.. think it's awsome, it's easy to beatmatch with it..

lol. thats cuz the program does it for you.

dtt looks nice. if they make the eq real-time, and lose the windows interface, it'll be the best, and it'll be free/open source too.

but alas, since i've gotten my techs, i haven't touched any computer mixing program in a long long time. occasionally to test out mixes cuz i'm too lazy to go to my decks, or to play songs i don't have on vinyl... but as my collection grows, those days are few and far between.

Posted by Trancer85 on May-11-2002 22:37:

I got Music Studio v. 2000 and wonderin is it any good??

Posted by attacc on May-11-2002 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by quddha
lol. thats cuz the program does it for you.

Exactly

Anyway, I think it's cool to be able to mix some mp3s without having to be in practice for months to get a decent transition.

I was doing this set a week ago mixing dnb, rap, house, trance, funk and jungle.. it was crazy It was just for some friends.. I was mixing Scuarepusher in with dj premier.. it actually sounded ok.. hehe. It was a lot of fun.. and not serious at all.

Respek!

Posted by u4ea on May-14-2002 16:07:

vtt

I'm using PCDJ Red, and some external stuff.

Here's my setup:
Presario Laptop ->
running PCDJ Red (connected via serial to Numark DMC-1) ->
output to 2 soundcards (1 internal/1 external) ->
soundcards feeding into Stanton mixer ->
output to headphones/speakers

Here's a pic of the setup:

http://www.geocities.com/one_big_shark/mdjsetup.jpg

Good luck

Posted by benfica88 on May-14-2002 16:22:

Hey, where's the pic?

Posted by quddha on May-14-2002 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by attacc
Exactly

Anyway, I think it's cool to be able to mix some mp3s without having to be in practice for months to get a decent transition.

I was doing this set a week ago mixing dnb, rap, house, trance, funk and jungle.. it was crazy It was just for some friends.. I was mixing Scuarepusher in with dj premier.. it actually sounded ok.. hehe. It was a lot of fun.. and not serious at all.

Respek!

Well I guess thats cool, if u just like to fool around and have some fun, and not get too serious about having maaaad skillz.

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