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Posted by zabrak on Mar-30-2008 22:53:

This forum could quite possibly contain the biggest amount of stupid people

This forum could quite possibly contain the biggest amount of stupid people gathered in one place when compared to any other forum on the internet.

Honestly, I was reading through THIS TOPIC and I could only make it to like the 4th or 5th page - by the time I made it to that page of the thread I felt like a blood vessel was about to explode. I don't know if you guys choose to be ignorant, or it's plausible to state that that generally all the posters here are generally around the age of 12.

"Nobody cares about old music anymore" are some comments that I've been hearing lately. Oh really, is that why The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd continue to sell well today? Let's put it this way, released less than eight years ago, The Beatles' greatest hists album "1" (a very decent album by the way) sold almost 30 million copies. Led Zeppelin's one-off reunion managed to get
ONE MILLION people to register for tickets, easily making it the biggest concert by any single band in history.


Also let'ls make things clear, I could go on and on about Zeppelin and Floyd and how their constantly being influenced left and right today - especially Led Zeppelin, but I'll focus on The Beatles to end this rant.

The Beatles are widely accepted, regarded, cited as, put as, accepted, and any other word I could use as the greatest band in history. Also...And this is an objective, unarguable fact, they're the most important, influential, revolutionary, and groundbreaking band in history. STILL relevant today, still constnatly being cited left and right in popular culture....Do you think a Trance artist that came out today will still be important more than 40 years after they formed?


EDIT: By the way, I have over 100 hours of Trance on my computer...I love Trance and all, and I'm also not telling you guys to worship classic rock...I'm just saying get your facts straight or don't be so ignorant towards The Beatles, etc. when making claimes about them.


Posted by zabrak on Mar-30-2008 22:59:

I'm going to post a quick reply..Not to bump my own thread or anything, but just to make sure you guys read this:


By the way, I have over 100 hours of Trance on my computer...I love Trance and all, and I'm also not telling you guys to worship classic rock...I'm just saying get your facts straight or don't be so ignorant towards The Beatles, etc. when making claimes about them.


Posted by Ted Promo on Mar-30-2008 23:03:

...and you're on this forum so that means...


oh, wait.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Mar-30-2008 23:45:

It took 4 men to write a masterpiece?

Pfft. Tiesto and Johann Sebastian Bach are 1 man legends.


Posted by hkaliher on Mar-30-2008 23:51:

assuming we are all morons, why are you trying to convince us of anything?
we are stupid, you are super smart and should leave

i am going to write on my wall in shit and then try to force the square peg in the round hole for a while


Posted by Redd on Mar-30-2008 23:57:

Wow, my head hurts after reading that. Gz!


Posted by Swamper on Mar-31-2008 00:09:

Re: This forum could quite possibly contain the biggest amount of stupid people

quote:
Originally posted by zabrak
This forum could quite possibly contain the biggest amount of stupid people gathered in one place when compared to any other forum on the internet.


Great way to start your first thread.

quote:
don't know if you guys choose to be ignorant, or it's plausible to state that that generally all the posters here are generally around the age of 12.


Well, it's always 'plausible' to 'state' something. However, I'm not sure it's plausible for the rest of your sentence to achieve coherence: 'to state that that generally all the posters here are generally around the age of 12'. Oh, I get it, that's your way to show us how a 12 year old writes. Clever!

You also proudly state you did not read the whole thread -- it shows, for if you did you would see others siding with your argument.

quote:
The Beatles are widely accepted, regarded, cited as, put as, accepted, and any other word I could use as the greatest band in history. Also...And this is an objective, unarguable fact, they're the most important, influential, revolutionary, and groundbreaking band in history.


For starters, 'influential/revolutionary/groundbreaking' are all adjectives you use describing The Beatles -- while this is your opinion, and those of many others, it doesn't constitute an 'unarguable fact' nor is it 'objective'. For, if it were possible for an opinion to be an 'unarguable fact' you wouldn't need to state it was 'widely accepted' -- it would, by its very definition, have to be completely accepted.

And as a final touch, let's not forget we have you bumping your thread within 6 minutes of posting.


Posted by kadomony on Mar-31-2008 00:10:

lol wut


Posted by zabrak on Mar-31-2008 00:13:

Well, it's always 'plausible' to 'state' something. However, I'm not sure it's possible for the rest of your sentence to achieve coherence 'to state that that generally all the posters here are generally around the age of 12'. Oh, I get it, that's your way to show us how a 12 year old writes. Clever!

Right...It's plausible to state my assumption...How can you not understand it?

For starters, 'influential/revolutionary/groundbreaking' are all adjectives you use describing The Beatles -- while this is your opinion, and those of many others, it doesn't constitute an 'unarguable fact' nor is it 'objective'. For, if it were possible for an opinion to be an 'unarguable fact' you wouldn't need to state it was 'widely accepted' -- it would, by its very definition, have to be completely accepted.


Actually no, it is an undisputable fact that the beatles are the most revolutionary, influential, yadda yadda band of all time. It's not a subjective opninion, buddy. I can't just CHOOSE for the beatles to not be influential, oh god your logic is so horrendouse it makes me laugh.


Posted by Palladium on Mar-31-2008 00:15:

lol wtf


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-31-2008 00:16:

trance.nu lol


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-31-2008 00:22:

Please don't close this, mods. Should be a good one.


Posted by ohbeone on Mar-31-2008 00:22:

quote:
Originally posted by zabrak
Actually no, it is an undisputable fact that the beatles are the most revolutionary, influential, yadda yadda band of all time. It's not a subjective opninion, buddy. I can't just CHOOSE for the beatles to not be influential, oh god your logic is so horrendouse it makes me laugh.


Okay...facts bases on what data? Most people used to think the world was flat. Did that make it flat? Nope. A lot of people think the beatles are the most revultionary etc etc ad nauseum band ever. Does that make it fact? No...it makes them popular and well accepted and thought if. There is no way to measure the things you are speaking of...it is not indisputable...if it were, would people here not be disputing it? If there were some end all be all way to prove it, it would be indisputable.


Posted by Palladium on Mar-31-2008 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by ohbeone
Okay...facts bases on what data? Most people used to think the world was flat. Did that make it flat? Nope. A lot of people think the beatles are the most revultionary etc etc ad nauseum band ever. Does that make it fact? No...it makes them popular and well accepted and thought if. There is no way to measure the things you are speaking of...it is not indisputable...if it were, would people here not be disputing it? If there were some end all be all way to prove it, it would be indisputable.


didn't you post this same kind of thread? didn't you say goodbye?


Posted by Darkarbiter on Mar-31-2008 00:27:

Wow epic alt

on topic: Fuck right off... it is clear you were in a sexual relationship with several members of the beatles. Just because they all hated you because it turns out your not a real classic rock fan and really a trance fan doesn't mean you have to try and prove it to yourself by making classic rock threads on a trance forum. You have serious mental issues.

Also your anal sex skill sucks... learn some technique ffs

Just because they were the most influential on your ass does not mean they were the most influential on music in history.


Posted by ohbeone on Mar-31-2008 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
didn't you post this same kind of thread? didn't you say goodbye?


I said goodbye. Then I took a deep breath, thought through some things and decided to stay.

No I didn't post this type of thread. My thread was about people having nothing better to do than to just insult others who have a different opinion than them. Way different. And let me just add to those who are telling the thread starter of this thread 'oh you're saying I'm stupid now' he actually didn't. He said that this forum has a lot of stupid people. Not everyone on this forum is stupid.

I don't agree with the thread starter getting so pissed about people being misinformed or stupid because that is something some people just can't help. Being jerks and doing nothing but insulting people...that can be controlled and that is what my issue was. But I choose now to ignore it.


Posted by zabrak on Mar-31-2008 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by ohbeone
Okay...facts bases on what data? Most people used to think the world was flat. Did that make it flat? Nope. A lot of people think the beatles are the most revultionary etc etc ad nauseum band ever. Does that make it fact? No...it makes them popular and well accepted and thought if. There is no way to measure the things you are speaking of...it is not indisputable...if it were, would people here not be disputing it? If there were some end all be all way to prove it, it would be indisputable.



this has got to be the most ill-concieved piece of garbage logic I've read all day. Sorry buddy, but every music scholar, critic, magazine, dvd documentary, book, you name it claime the beatles as the most important band in history. I'd love to see you dispute this. Only un-informed people dispute this.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-31-2008 00:35:

Re: This forum could quite possibly contain the biggest amount of stupid people

quote:
Originally posted by zabrak
Let's put it this way, released less than eight years ago, The Beatles' greatest hists album "1" (a very decent album by the way) sold almost 30 million copies. Led Zeppelin's one-off reunion managed to get
ONE MILLION people to register for tickets, easily making it the biggest concert by any single band in history.

I wonder how many concert tickets 50 Cent sells on an average tour. Probably quite a few. Does that make him a brilliant musician?

By the way, I'm not saying that the Beatles or Led Zeppelin made bad music. I'm just casting some doubt on your assumption that popularity and quality have any necessary connection.

But the biggest point to address here is that you never really explained what you mean by "taking a type of music seriously." What do you mean when you say that you don't see how people can "take trance seriously" compared to something like the Beatles?

I hope you know that a number of people, many of whom know quite a bit about music, see the Beatles as nothing more than featherlite pap, stupid pop unworthy of being "taken seriously." But I'm sure that you would dismiss their opinions, right? And if you would do that, you have to ask yourself, why should we heed your opinion when you effectively call trance "lightweight" music?


Posted by zabrak on Mar-31-2008 00:36:

I'm sorry but there will be no other band within any of our lifetimes that will come close to the prodigiously astrnomical impact the beatles had on music and popular culture as a whole.


Posted by Ted Promo on Mar-31-2008 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by zabrak
this has got to be the most ill-concieved piece of garbage logic I've read all day. Sorry buddy, but every music scholar, critic, magazine, dvd documentary, book, you name it claime the beatles as the most important band in history. I'd love to see you dispute this. Only un-informed people dispute this.


Until influence can be given a viable form of measurement it can be disputed.


Posted by zabrak on Mar-31-2008 00:38:

Re: Re: This forum could quite possibly contain the biggest amount of stupid people

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I wonder how many concert tickets 50 Cent sells on an average tour. Probably quite a few. Does that make him a brilliant musician?

By the way, I'm not saying that the Beatles or Led Zeppelin made bad music. I'm just casting some doubt on your assumption that popularity and quality have any necessary connection.

But the biggest point to address here is that you never really explained what you mean by "taking a type of music seriously." What do you mean when you say that you don't see how people can "take trance seriously" compared to something like the Beatles?

I hope you know that a number of people, many of whom know quite a bit about music, see the Beatles as nothing more than featherlite pap, stupid pop unworthy of being "taken seriously." But I'm sure that you would dismiss their opinions, right? And if you would do that, you have to ask yourself, why should we heed your opinion when you effectively call trance "lightweight" music?



No no. I never said popularity=quality. I dismissed their idiotic claime that people do not even care about led zeppelin or the beatles etc. aynmore.

Also about the beatles 'pop music'. Their earliest compositions were mainly rock �n� roll or R&B-rooted pop songs with the occasional ballad. But they grew increasingly eclectic as composers, arrangers and performers over the years. They composed songs and arranged them in a wide array of musical styles � occasionally fusing genres.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-31-2008 00:41:

Okey doke.

But what do you mean by "taking trance [or classic rock] seriously?"

You still haven't explained that.


Posted by zabrak on Mar-31-2008 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Okey doke.

But what do you mean by "taking trance [or classic rock] seriously?"

You still haven't explained that.


nothing really. I was bored out of my mind so i decided to troll. I wanted to reply to those posts in that thread but I was away in Texas


Posted by Ted Promo on Mar-31-2008 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by zabrak
nothing really. I was bored out of my mind so i decided to troll. I wanted to reply to those posts in that thread but I was away in Texas



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Posted by ohbeone on Mar-31-2008 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by zabrak
this has got to be the most ill-concieved piece of garbage logic I've read all day. Sorry buddy, but every music scholar, critic, magazine, dvd documentary, book, you name it claime the beatles as the most important band in history. I'd love to see you dispute this. Only un-informed people dispute this.


Oh okay...you're right pardon me.

every music scholar

Yes I'm sure every single music scholar thinks that. Then the ones that don't think that don't count. I'm sure some would say Elvis was more important than the beatles. Without Elvis...you wouldn't even have the Beatles. Most influential? That's disputable. While vastly popular and successful this does not prove biggest influence or impact on music in general.


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