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Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-15-2008 10:40:

Dog Running Taking the path of VINYL =) need advice!

Yes sir! Vinyl is the path I choose to walk, despite being a proud owner of SSL for 1,5 years and that each day the digital realm of DJing is growing more superior. I regret not buying vinyl earlier (although I could not have afforded vinyl earlier anyway). My ultimate goal is to collect my favorite tunes on vinyl. I know this will be hard and expensive but I want to do it. The deep sound of vinyl, the act of collecting vinyl, holding it with your hands is worth every cent spent on it.
TA vinyl-whores! I need your advice on vinyl stores with the biggest catalog, preferably past releases dated 1998-2004, and with optional international delivery. I've looked through the TA thread listing vinyl stores and from what I've learned HTFR and Chemical Records are the #1 stores for old/rare vinyl. Any other big stores I should know of?
And another thing: what's it like to buy secondhand vinyl via eBay and gemm?
Thanks in advance for any advice.


Posted by Stu Cox on Apr-15-2008 11:13:

Try Juno Records as well, and the Discogs Marketplace.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-15-2008 12:34:

music stack marketplace. that can be awfully expensive depending on where you live. i spent $63AU on 1 song earlier this year


Posted by skip on Apr-15-2008 12:40:

Re: Taking the path of VINYL =) need advice!

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox

And another thing: what's it like to buy secondhand vinyl via eBay and gemm?



it's a fucking bitch most of the time, especially if you want vinyl that isn't all crackly and fucked up as most people really do grade their vinyl generously. i've ordered a bunch of records that were graded as mint and they clearly have been played and quite a lot too as they had some horrible crackles i couldn't remove no matter what i tried.
so you never know what you get when ordering vinyl from someone on ebay/gemm etc.
also complaining about it doesn't always mean you'll get your money back. i think it's paypal's policy at least that you have to send the records back on your own expense to get a refund from the seller, which is stupid as fuck if you ask me, because you'll just end up losing money (what it costs to ship them back and it can be quite a lot depending on the country) and getting nothing in return...


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-15-2008 14:58:

anyone buy at Discogs Marketplace? i found ULTRARARE records there and I'm honestly going to shit in my pants if I get a hold on those records omG i'm so anxious. i hope it doesn't disappoint me


Posted by ReclusNdangrmnt on Apr-15-2008 17:17:

I've yet to get a CD that skips from all my Discogs antics...But that doesn't help with regards to vinyl, now, does it?


Posted by Jarvmeister on Apr-15-2008 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt
I've yet to get a CD that skips from all my Discogs antics...But that doesn't help with regards to vinyl, now, does it?


No, it doesn't.


Posted by skip on Apr-15-2008 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
anyone buy at Discogs Marketplace? i found ULTRARARE records there and I'm honestly going to shit in my pants if I get a hold on those records omG i'm so anxious. i hope it doesn't disappoint me


i've had problems with 6 of the 16 records i've ordered and received thru discogs (2 of which hasn't been sorted out and it's been months). got 12 more ordered atm and i'm afraid 2 of them will never arrive. too early to say anything about the 10 that are on the way. so it's not exactly the best place to shop IMO. and mind you, i've only ordered from people with good feedback.
you gotta be careful who you order from and always pay by paypal so you can file a complaint if you don't get your stuff.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-15-2008 19:20:

damn you scare me but where in the world am I gonna get those extra-rare records if not from secondhand sources

oh..and I forgot to ask: does the complaint system on Paypal really work??? is their a slight possibility of getting your money back if you received a bad record or haven't received anything at all?


Posted by skip on Apr-15-2008 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
damn you scare me but where in the world am I gonna get those extra-rare records if not from secondhand sources

oh..and I forgot to ask: does the complaint system on Paypal really work??? is their a slight possibility of getting your money back if you received a bad record or haven't received anything at all?



well i have the same problem as you. the reason i got a turntable in the first place was so i could buy the tunes i want that aren't available on cd or download. and i have to say that i'm kinda disappointed with how wrongly people state the condition of their vinyls. also i really wonder how people take care of their vinyls. still i don't regret buying a turntable just to get those tunes i want.

but i must say that i'm really sensitive to crackles etc. though. i don't want any of that shit in my music, i want it to sound as flawless as possible. i know most people aren't so strict about that.

and i don't have much experience about the paypal complaint system. i've made one complaint thru it and it was about an electric toothbrush i bought on ebay. the seller didn't reply my mails for some reason even though he has 100% feedback on ebay and is a power seller too. when i made the complaint thru paypal he immediately shipped the toothbrush and some extra stuff too. dunno what was up with the whole thing. i think he honestly just fucked up and thus sent it straight away and not because he was afraid that he'd have to pay me my money back.

but i'll have more experience with the complaint system soon though as i most likely have to file a complaint about the 2 records that the dude i ordered them from hasn't shipped. i'll report back on how it turns out if i remember.


Posted by PezCore on Apr-15-2008 23:29:

www.4djsonly.com is the cheapest shop on the internet


Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-16-2008 00:16:

Don't do it.


Just kidding of course, but it sounds like a bitch and a half.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-16-2008 00:27:

used discogs 3 times with 3 different users, had perfect service each time.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-16-2008 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
used discogs 3 times with 3 different users, had perfect service each time.

can you name them please.. just in case


Posted by Domesticated on Apr-16-2008 11:17:

My discogs experience has been excellent.

One record didn't arrive, I threw a hissy fit, and the guy re-sent, without even asking for proof that it didn't arrive!

All mine have been in good condition too.

Bought about 10 times total.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-16-2008 11:43:

w00ti'm left to hope for the best anyways


Posted by elFreak on Apr-16-2008 15:40:

advice...= have lots of cash

other than that i fucking love it


Posted by RJT on Apr-16-2008 16:07:

I wanted to come into this thread and say something about what a bad decision it is to take the "vinyl path", but in the end all I have to say that I really admire people who still make the effort to collect and play vinyl. It's not an easy or practical thing to do in the least, but if you're really just doing it because you personally love vinyl, I think that's pretty awesome.

No advice here as I sold off most of my vinyl years back, but just thought I'd let all you vinyl whores know how neat I think the effort you guys make is.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-16-2008 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I really admire people who still make the effort to collect and play vinyl. It's not an easy or practical thing to do in the least, but if you're really just doing it because you personally love vinyl, I think that's pretty awesome

fact: i earn 700-800 fucking $ a month
fact: i plan to spend 200 $ each month
fact: i have only 2 records so far
fact: i already spent >200 $ on beatport/audijelly stuff
fact: my goal is 700+ records, 200 of which can be considered rare (that means at least 30-40 $ per record)
ooohhh yeah


Posted by djimmersion on Apr-17-2008 02:07:

Call me crazy but I actually downgraded to vinyl, partly beacuse I have had very bad experiances with the Numark CDN95 Dual CD player, in less then a year one of the CD drives failed, I took it in to get it fixed, and whithin a month it failed again, and the other CD drive is following the same fate, so now i use Numark TTXUSB's and i have gotten nothing but love from them, they are th most reliable peices of gear I have, and IMO vinyl is alot easier for me to use then CD, probably beacuse I have had so many problems with the CDN95 not working properly


Posted by aLviNx80 on Apr-17-2008 03:03:

quote:
Originally posted by djimmersion
Call me crazy but I actually downgraded to vinyl


More of a "switch" than a downgrade.


Posted by djimmersion on Apr-17-2008 04:46:

well lets not be picky about the definition lol, but since this is an age of laptops and computer programs and DJ's who either have amazing talent and use ableton or serato to streanthen their already masterd skill, or those who use computer programs beacuse they have no skill at all, it would be called downgrading to the old format, but no offence intended with that word


Posted by Yohan on Apr-17-2008 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by djimmersion
Call me crazy but I actually downgraded to vinyl, partly beacuse I have had very bad experiances with the Numark CDN95 Dual CD player, in less then a year one of the CD drives failed, I took it in to get it fixed, and whithin a month it failed again, and the other CD drive is following the same fate, so now i use Numark TTXUSB's and i have gotten nothing but love from them, they are th most reliable peices of gear I have, and IMO vinyl is alot easier for me to use then CD, probably beacuse I have had so many problems with the CDN95 not working properly

your problem is that you had Numark CDJs

piece of shit

vinyls are so cool... I love it whenever I get a chance to spin some vinyls (even if I end up trainwrecking sometimes because I get pretty rusty)


Posted by blacknoizybox on Apr-17-2008 07:55:

can anyone PLEASE describe in details the procedure of buying vinyl from Discogs Marketplace. Discogs says all I have to do is add the desired vinyl to my card, then press "checkout", them the Seller should send detailed info on the total and payment method. what I don't see is any proof or at least a confirmation that the Seller has the desired vinyl. should I send a prior message via the Discogs messaging system or should I just press "checkout" and cross my fingers?


Posted by skip on Apr-17-2008 08:04:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox
can anyone PLEASE describe in details the procedure of buying vinyl from Discogs Marketplace. Discogs says all I have to do is add the desired vinyl to my card, then press "checkout", them the Seller should send detailed info on the total and payment method. what I don't see is any proof or at least a confirmation that the Seller has the desired vinyl. should I send a prior message via the Discogs messaging system or should I just press "checkout" and cross my fingers?



why would the seller list something he doesn't have?


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