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About Deadmau5 - not another "how can I make music like.." thread

I'm just listened new deadmau5 production:
http://www.houseplanet.dj/index.php...au5-Brazil.html

I'm trying to realize what type of mixing he uses, what compressor can make that fat, warm and deep sound, how can this track be so good in quality.

How that kick sounds so amazing without distortion? ok, good compressor, but which? Maybe the UAD plugins?

I can say my target is to get something near it's quality, but i'm unable to see how I'm doing wrong. Please take a look on a sample of a track of mine:

www.myspace.com/mauricionorenberg

I have something better today here, being produced, but I think it's not enough. Today I'm using:

Cubase SX3
URS Compressors (VST)
Waves IR1 for Reverb
Sidechaning with TC Native Compressor (VST)
Synths: Vanguard, Atmosphere, Arturia, Trilogy (all vst)
Reason
Battery2 with some nice samples
Already read some books and tutorials of mixing and mastering, like Bob Katz...

But something I still doing wrong.
What you think about my track on myspace? How can I do better?

Maybe I must to go hardware? UAD, Moog, P8?
It is possible to make good music only with software?

Thanks

Great, here we go... when all else fails, blame the equipment.

Yes, you need hardware, more analog and sidechain.

Actually, I don't think your mixing is that bad, which is unusual for these types of threads. You're just using thin sounds. Pick up a few good kicks and layer some of your synths, and with a little EQ work you should be set.

Compression's got very little to do with it.

you just need better samples... it sounds like trance. it's also too high tempo for deadmau5 style... look at my myspace www.myspace.com/czx

Deadmau5 uses alot of hardware in his tracks, it just sounds better.

But if you work alot more with softplugs you can probably get some similar sounds.

you definately need a lot of hardware to make really good music. digital synths just don't sound that good and any pro will agree with me.

if i were you, i would buy a moog voyager or little phatty, an analog compressor like a TL Ivory 5052 and an analog outboard mixer. alot of pros use SSL analog mixing consoles. its all pretty expensive, so it will take you a while to get all of this, but your music just won't be that polished until it is passed through some high quality equipment.

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MOAR ANALOG

And, of course sidechain.

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Originally posted by pwnage1 MOAR ANALOG

see!

you need more analog man. your songs are ok, but they could use more analog.

There is only one way to get that analog sound with software. I am going to share the secret with you.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Easy steps to the PRO SOUND: Open up your CD drive and pour in two cups of Bertolli olive oil. This will give your track a smoother, slick feel. Then smash a bunch of Rold Gold mini pretzels (at least two hundred) into tiny pieces and dump them into your CD drive as well. Hit "record" in your sequencer, and then bang with your fists as hard as you can at random on your MIDI keyboard for about five minutes. After you've done this, hit the "quantize" button -- this will turn your notes into an AWESOME uplifting melody. Add a classic 909 kick drum playing a four-to-the-floor beat and kick the track up to about 180 BPM. Route the kick drum through a vocoder, using the kick drum as the modulator sound and Michael Jackson's "Beat It" as your source sound. This will sound tiiiiiiiiight. Record the resulting song to analog tape. Put the tape in a traditional brick oven heated to at least 350 degrees Fahrenheit for twenty minutes. This will give your track the extra warmth that every producer craves. Send the results of this process to a mastering engineer and he'll fix it up to make sound REALLY PROFESSIONAL. Then send the final thing off to Armin and Tiesto. You'll be sure to get signed!

I just listened to the Deadmau5 track and it seems nothing special. Just sounds like a well mixed dance production?

mastery wizardry

wizardry mastery

You have all the gear you need, you just need to know where-when-how to use them. I didn't listen to your song yet, but the universal answer is always the same.

It's not the gear you have, it's how you use them. And that will take quite some time to master. Much like a painter will need quite some time to polish his skills in order to get that perfect painting.

All he needs is a brush and some paint, but it's useless if you don't know how to use it. (not suggesting that you don't know anything)

It's not the answer you wanted I suppose, but it's the grueling truth.

and why do u want to sound like someone else? get your own style.

^agreed

look, I never asked how to make deadmau5 or any other sound style, i'm just talking about quality and mixing of production.

Agreed with the samples point, I may use better samples.
About MORE ANALOG
Maybe UAD DSP PAK is more affordable, not?
I dont have enough to get a TL Ivory 5052, SSL Mixers for now

And about Moog Voyager (i dont know If I'll get this one), which audio interface to use?

So, thank you for the inputs

fuck analog imo, its just a hype. functionality/flexibility is the way to go. so just keep up what ur doing. let the counterattacks come

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Originally posted by echosystm you definately need a lot of hardware to make really good music. digital synths just don't sound that good and any pro will agree with me. if i were you, i would buy a moog voyager or little phatty, an analog compressor like a TL Ivory 5052 and an analog outboard mixer. alot of pros use SSL analog mixing consoles. its all pretty expensive, so it will take you a while to get all of this, but your music just won't be that polished until it is passed through some high quality equipment.

You need to put a smiley at the end or something... noobs might think that you're actually serious.

There are certain things that analogue equipment/hardware can give you that soft synths/fx can't (and viceversa) but it really is down to how you use it. I know that's what everyone says but it's as simple as listening to your tracks at all their different stages of production.

The most important thing is getting the samples sounds right at the compositional stage. No fx, tricks or mixing techniques are ever going to make bad or incorrect (i.e. thin when you want fat) samples and synths sound as good as the right samples (or sounds) in the correct context.

It's bullshit that a lot of dance producers use SSL's (etc) and loads of expensive outboard to make tracks. So many great dance tracks have been produced on home setups but in some cases the track is made on home/project studio equipment and if it's getting a commercial release will be mixed in proper studio. Some things like compressors hard to really truly emulate with software but with the quality of things like the digidesign /pro tools plugins, as well as some of VST fx now available you can get amazing results that just don't warrant the expense of hardware. Why do you think sound control went bust?......

The main thing is that getting the sounds right at each stage, is the key to obtaining the musical identity you want.

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The most important thing is getting the samples sounds right at the compositional stage. No fx, tricks or mixing techniques are ever going to make bad or incorrect (i.e. thin when you want fat) samples and synths sound as good as the right samples (or sounds) in the correct context.

I don't agree with this. You can make crap shine. You can turn crap into something entirely different. This isn't a very good example, but heres a shit kick i turned into something useable.. http://download.yousendit.com/2F91353B198FE918

agree.
example
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4NAtYN32rkM&feature=related

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Originally posted by DigiNut You need to put a smiley at the end or something... noobs might think that you're actually serious.

awwwww...

ok

Take care in choosing quality sounds based on the overall vision you have for your song.

That way without trying you will have the components of your song fitting together before you even start your mixdown process.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja You can make crap shine.

Shiny crap is still crap.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja I don't agree with this. You can make crap shine. You can turn crap into something entirely different. This isn't a very good example, but heres a shit kick i turned into something useable.. http://download.yousendit.com/2F91353B198FE918

Yeah I suppose it's much easier to get shite samples and spend loads of time adding fx and mixing techniques to make them sound like decent samples. A polished turd still smells like.......

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Yeah I suppose it's much easier to get shite samples and spend loads of time adding fx and mixing techniques to make them sound like decent samples. A polished turd still smells like.......

No it's much easier to get someone like Manuel Schleis to do it for you Fag.

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