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Posted by josh4 on Jul-14-2008 23:14:

The New Yorker cover of Obama

quote:

Obama camp: Satirical magazine cover 'tasteless'
(07-14) 14:56 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --

Barack Obama's campaign says a satirical New Yorker magazine cover showing the Democratic presidential candidate dressed as a Muslim and his wife as a terrorist is "tasteless and offensive."

The illustration on the issue that hits newsstands Monday, titled "The Politics of Fear" and drawn by Barry Blitt, depicts Barack Obama wearing sandals, robe and a turban and his wife, Michelle, dressed in camouflage, combat boots and an assault rifle strapped over her shoulder � standing in the Oval Office.

The couple is doing a fist tap in front of a fireplace in which an American flag is burning. Over the mantel hangs a portrait of Osama bin Laden.

"The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Senator Obama's right-wing critics have tried to create," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton. "But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree."

In a statement Monday, the magazine said the cover "combines a number of fantastical images about the Obamas and shows them for the obvious distortions they are."

"The burning flag, the nationalist-radical and Islamic outfits, the fist-bump, the portrait on the wall? All of them echo one attack or another. Satire is part of what we do, and it is meant to bring things out into the open, to hold up a mirror to prejudice, the hateful, and the absurd. And that's the spirit of this cover," the New Yorker statement said.

The statement also pointed to the two articles on Obama contained inside the magazine, calling them "very serious."

In Arizona, Republican John McCain said the cover was "totally inappropriate and frankly I understand if Senator Obama and his supporters would find it offensive."

Already the cover was generating controversy on the Internet.

The Huffington Post, a left-leaning blog, said: "Anyone who's tried to paint Obama as a Muslim, anyone who's tried to portray Michelle as angry or a secret revolutionary out to get Whitey, anyone who has questioned their patriotism � well, here's your image."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic.../p053455D90.DTL


Heres what someone posted in the article comments:
quote:

This cover was ill-advised. Not because of the image itself, of course, but for the assumption by the New Yorker that most Americans would be able to appreciate this sort of relatively extreme satire. Most Americans, it seems, are only able to take things at face value.

I understand where the magazine is coming from but people that care about flag label pins don't usually have an easy time distinguishing between satire and reality.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-14-2008 23:28:

I think this is getting blown way out of proportion.

First of all 99% of America doesn't read the New Yorker, and since it is a weekly the total time it will be seen in news stands will be minimal.

It's also a fantastic piece of satire.

The two articles on Obama in the issue are great pieces as well.


Posted by The17sss on Jul-15-2008 00:06:

No joke... grow a set of balls, Barry. Welcome to public life. No politician is spared from the political cartoonists and caricaturists.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-15-2008 00:14:

Not sure if you understand the image, but it is not making fun of Obama.


Posted by The17sss on Jul-15-2008 00:21:

Yeah I totally get the satire... that it's aimed to make fun of the extreme right wing's evolving image of the Obamas. I'm just tired of all the condemning of anything and everything by politicians that is "offensive"


Posted by Clovis on Jul-15-2008 00:43:

I'm pretty sure Obama has the balls to take a lot of criticism, he just has to condemn the piece for the purpose of being in a presidential campaign, much like the McCain camp did.


Posted by The17sss on Jul-15-2008 02:24:

Why did he have to condemn it... it was his friends on the left that put it out there to blast the GOP. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. If I had a dime for every time he demanded an apology or was outraged/offended over something, I'd be rich. He doesn't even have the nutsack to take McCain up on his offers to debate in front of military groups (after he said he'd debate McCain anywhere, anytime on Iraq policy), and agreed to only 1 town hall format debate out of the 10 that were offered, and wanted it televised on July 4th when nobody would be watching.


Posted by Krypton on Jul-15-2008 02:57:

This is sure to increase readership at the New Yorker.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-15-2008 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
If I had a dime for every time he demanded an apology or was outraged/offended over something, I'd be rich.


As long as we're asking for dimes, I wish I had one for every time you got your panties in a twist about Obama.


Posted by The17sss on Jul-15-2008 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
As long as we're asking for dimes, I wish I had one for every time you got your panties in a twist about Obama.


...and I'd like 2 for each time you blew him


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-15-2008 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
...and I'd like 2 for each time you blew him


Better vote Democrat then, you're going to need to go on welfare.


Posted by The17sss on Jul-15-2008 03:40:


Posted by Clovis on Jul-15-2008 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
Why did he have to condemn it... it was his friends on the left that put it out there to blast the GOP. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. If I had a dime for every time he demanded an apology or was outraged/offended over something, I'd be rich. He doesn't even have the nutsack to take McCain up on his offers to debate in front of military groups (after he said he'd debate McCain anywhere, anytime on Iraq policy), and agreed to only 1 town hall format debate out of the 10 that were offered, and wanted it televised on July 4th when nobody would be watching.


Its called being a presidential candidate in an election.


Posted by Krypton on Jul-15-2008 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
He doesn't even have the nutsack to take McCain up on his offers to debate in front of military groups (after he said he'd debate McCain anywhere, anytime on Iraq policy), and agreed to only 1 town hall format debate out of the 10 that were offered, and wanted it televised on July 4th when nobody would be watching.



Why would Obama want to have a debate in settings where McCain would clearly be more welcomed than Obama? It's like a visiting team playing in somebody else's home field. The crowd is going to root for the home team. It's pretty simple. You don't debate on you opponent's terms.


Posted by The17sss on Jul-15-2008 04:41:

the military group was just one... but the point was that Obama specifically challenged McCain anytime, anywhere for a debate on Iraq policy in May. So, at Fort Hood they invited both to come debate that policy in front of everyone and now Obama won't go. He is afraid to have extemporaneous exchanges with someone on an issue he's inexperienced in, obviously... which is why he never should have issued that challenge to begin with. I actually think the crowd would probably be more sympathetic to Obama than some might think because military families have gone through a lot over the last five years and want to see the Iraq war come to some sort of conclusion.

The other 10 town hall deals were aimed at being in just regular towns across the country... no specific demographic targeted.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-15-2008 15:06:

And Obama asked to do four debates and McCain said no... what's the big deal? The fact is that both candidates suggested making more joint appearances than in any other race in modern history.


Posted by LazFX on Jul-15-2008 15:29:

I got the Satire.... pretty funny.....


like this one......






ha ha ha


Posted by LazFX on Jul-15-2008 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
And Obama asked to do four debates and McCain said no... what's the big deal? The fact is that both candidates suggested making more joint appearances than in any other race in modern history.


McCain would look real bad in a debate....actually so would Obama..... well at least not in a scripted debate/town hall meeting...
but McCain would look too old and Obama would be Christ Like.... remember that dude named Clinton......fucking man showed up on MTV and that was it, Bubba made it

and sorry to say it , this country is over all fucked no matter....when the latest Breaking News Break on CNN is fucking Britney Spears pulling over at a service station to take a shit is considered BREAKING NEWS!! Fuck that!!you know what?? this country is FUCKED!

just glad I am moving out to the country.... I say 20 or 30 more years shit will hit the fan.... you all don't see it....keep on and quote your fucking Chomsky, keep posting blurry/bad "youtube videos" and least I forget, your wearing of the latest che t-shirt.....

ITS GETTING REALL NIGGAS!!!




ha ha ha







i have got to stop drinking this shit lol


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-15-2008 19:49:

lol dude, you posted that in the morning. I think you've got a problem.


Posted by LazFX on Jul-16-2008 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
lol dude, you posted that in the morning. I think you've got a problem.


nah man, I work the 3rd shift.....
your mornings are my nights and my nights are your days..


Posted by Q5echo on Jul-16-2008 06:33:


Posted by Krypton on Jul-16-2008 06:47:

The right always finds a way to label left-leaning Democrats as communists...


Posted by Q5echo on Jul-16-2008 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The right always finds a way to label left-leaning Democrats as communists...


have you learned ANYTHING from this f**king thread? FFS, man

look at the pic again (which is not mine BTW >LINK<). think. what do you see?


Posted by LazFX on Jul-16-2008 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo


ha ha

but its not a real good chop....


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jul-16-2008 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
nah man, I work the 3rd shift.....
your mornings are my nights and my nights are your days..


Haha, carry on then, and drink one for me.


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