Is Mathew Jonson - Marionette considered "techno"

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Posted by Guest on Aug-17-2008 17:04:

Is Mathew Jonson - Marionette considered "techno"

Doombot and I were arguing over what is and isnt techno these days. He said the original mix of Marionette is techno and I think its progressive house.

Posted by bubbleguuum on Aug-17-2008 17:28:

To me it's definitely techno. Mostly because of the detuned synths that give this somewhat sinister atmosphere + a recurring harsher sound in the background.

Posted by distant on Aug-18-2008 00:58:

techno for sure. It has nothing in common with prog house of any generation.

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-18-2008 01:29:

Techno.

Why do you consider it prog house?

Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Aug-18-2008 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Techno.

Why do you consider it prog house?

because it has melody.

techno doesn't have melodies, duh!

Posted by MinuS on Aug-18-2008 02:07:

Why cant it just be considered "amazing"?

Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Aug-18-2008 02:08:

quote:
Originally posted by MinuS
Why cant it just be considered "amazing"?

because amazing isn't enough to describe this monster.

Posted by Clovis on Aug-18-2008 02:21:

prog house?

Posted by RJT on Aug-18-2008 02:42:

Uplifting trance, IMO.

Posted by julien2 on Aug-18-2008 02:42:

techno indeed

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-18-2008 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Uplifting trance, IMO.

Acoustic rock IMO.

Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-18-2008 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Acoustic rock IMO.

twatcore power ballad imo.

Posted by kramer333 on Aug-18-2008 11:32:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
because it has melody.

techno doesn't have melodies, duh!

techno can have lots of melody

Posted by shonguiz on Aug-18-2008 11:52:

Really ?

Posted by Domesticated on Aug-18-2008 12:04:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
because it has melody.

techno doesn't have melodies, duh!

Minimal techno like Spastik or some of Robert Hood's work is fairly atonal, but traditional techno is generally highly melodic.

Strings Of Life anyone?

I would call this techno I think; in that it's not funky/rhythmic enough to be straight house, not dubby/deep enough to be deep house and not atmospheric and percussive enough to be progressive house.

Posted by sljiva on Aug-18-2008 12:15:

Well aren't you a smart boy.

Posted by Guest on Aug-18-2008 12:23:

you win this time, James. But I'll be back. Oh, I'll be back.

Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-18-2008 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by kramer333
techno can have lots of melody

WHOOOOSH!

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
Minimal techno like Spastik or some of Robert Hood's work is fairly atonal, but traditional techno is generally highly melodic.

Strings Of Life anyone?

I would call this techno I think; in that it's not funky/rhythmic enough to be straight house, not dubby/deep enough to be deep house and not atmospheric and percussive enough to be progressive house.

WHOOOOOSH ZIP ZAP ZOOM BIFF!

Posted by kitphillips on Aug-18-2008 15:40:

Ellen Allien is considered mnml isn't she? And Orchestra of Bubbles is obscenely melodic, Rotary

Posted by Zild on Aug-18-2008 15:55:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Ellen Allien is considered mnml isn't she? And Orchestra of Bubbles is obscenely melodic, Rotary

Yeah nobody ever said Techno can't have a melody.

Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-18-2008 16:09:

Techno can't have a melody.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-18-2008 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
Strings Of Life anyone?

Strings Of Life is more techno trying to imitate Chicago house than prototypical techno. If it had been made and played in Chicago rather than Detroit, we'd probably be calling it house now.

Although, yes, Iplaywiththecapslockkey was being sarcastic. Techno can and often does have melody.

Posted by Zild on Aug-18-2008 16:17:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Strings Of Life is more techno trying to imitate Chicago house than prototypical techno. If it had been made and played in Chicago rather than Detroit, we'd probably be calling it house now.

Although, yes, Iplaywiththecapslockkey was being sarcastic. Techno can and often does have melody.

That is because all of the prototypical techno artists like May were creating house music. It just ended up being labeled 'techno' because we have some ridiculous need crate genres and subgenres of music.

Posted by Domesticated on Aug-18-2008 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Strings Of Life is more techno trying to imitate Chicago house than prototypical techno. If it had been made and played in Chicago rather than Detroit, we'd probably be calling it house now.

I disagree, I see it as fundmentally different to the house music I know from that era, although it obviously drew huge influence from it.

That's only one example anyway; one I picked because it's the most obvious and recognisable.

Posted by Zild on Aug-18-2008 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
I disagree, I see it as fundmentally different to the house music I know from that era, although it obviously drew huge influence from it.

That's only one example anyway; one I picked because it's the most obvious and recognisable.

Ask May himself. He will tell you he was creating house music it just ended up being given a different label.

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