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Paul Oakenfold EM Mix Rojam (China '99) Track 09

almost 10 years later and this track is still unidentified?


i have searched far and wide for a name and cannot come up with it!?

anyone have any ideas?

here is a sample of the song for those who havent heard it.

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This should belong in the unknown tracks section man....you registered in 2003, you should know this by now!

they don't make them like they used to

That was the best year for Essential mixes. Paul Oakenfold rocked it!

You've got no chance mate. It's never been ID'd and there have been huge efforts to try. I severely doubt anyone is going to turn up because you've made this thread with the title.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You've got no chance mate. It's never been ID'd and there have been huge efforts to try. I severely doubt anyone is going to turn up because you've made this thread with the title.

Indeed. Aside from the actual producer turning up & telling us we have no chance now. I like it though, the idea of tracklisting everythign is all well & good but sometimes some things are good having an air of mystery about them.

is this not the one made by some amateur producer from germany or something???

Whatever it is, there's almost no point in ID'ing it at all- it's obviously so fucking rare that you wouldn't be able to find it even if you knew the name.

I miss those days.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Whatever it is, there's almost no point in ID'ing it at all- it's obviously so fucking rare that you wouldn't be able to find it even if you knew the name.

not true. "two fishes - the opera" as an example.

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Originally posted by keithos27 not true. "two fishes - the opera" as an example.

I don't know - that track is still hard as hell to track down, even after it's been ID'd.

I just don't really see this one getting ID'd - or there being much chance of it circulating. I'd love it if it happened, just a gut feeling I guess.

It's very odd that after all this time, the producer has never come fourth to claim his/her work though. Oakie should come out and ID it or give some sort of info about it, since it was so long ago, why not? It's not like its going to change anything other than help the producer. Maybe it was a stolen track by Oakie, and he doesn't wanna get shite for it. There is something odd about it that's for sure. There is plenty of demand for it to be released and money to be made!

there is a big difference between space #4....
which turned out being two fishes opera, a track by emmanuel top, which was given a proper release release. only being ignored a bit,

...and rojam #9, which the only info we have on is that it's by an amateur from germany and that was only because dragonemerald remembered the test reaction sheet from his mates collection, and was not given a full release iirc

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Originally posted by RJT I don't know - that track is still hard as hell to track down, even after it's been ID'd. I just don't really see this one getting ID'd - or there being much chance of it circulating. I'd love it if it happened, just a gut feeling I guess.

I'm not saying you're going to run down to your closest Virgin Megastore and find one... I'm just saying these things get IDed and people find them.

I agree, it's unlikely this will get IDed at this point. But I'm glad people bring these things up every now and then... You never know who sees it, and what can happen.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY It's very odd that after all this time, the producer has never come fourth to claim his/her work though. Oakie should come out and ID it or give some sort of info about it, since it was so long ago, why not? It's not like its going to change anything other than help the producer. Maybe it was a stolen track by Oakie, and he doesn't wanna get shite for it. There is something odd about it that's for sure. There is plenty of demand for it to be released and money to be made!

well that's all just speculation. who knows what the story is. the person could be dead, not producing anymore, etc. who knows.

and i *seriously* doubt oakie is ever going to ID stuff like this. heck where the hell are all of his records over the years. and are they all catalogued? probably not. chances are he received this as a whitelabel with little to no information on it. or maybe the sheet has since been lost. again speculation, but you see where i'm going with this.

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Originally posted by keithos27 well that's all just speculation. who knows what the story is. the person could be dead, not producing anymore, etc. who knows. and i *seriously* doubt oakie is ever going to ID stuff like this. heck where the hell are all of his records over the years. and are they all catalogued? probably not. chances are he received this as a whitelabel with little to no information on it. or maybe the sheet has since been lost. again speculation, but you see where i'm going with this.

Of course its speculation, thats all we have Maybe you are right about the guy being dead...why with it having sooooo much attention has the producer not stepped up??? Makes sense. Oakie killed him in a bar fight, or coke deal gone bad.

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Originally posted by keithos27 well that's all just speculation. who knows what the story is. the person could be dead, not producing anymore, etc. who knows. and i *seriously* doubt oakie is ever going to ID stuff like this. heck where the hell are all of his records over the years. and are they all catalogued? probably not. chances are he received this as a whitelabel with little to no information on it. or maybe the sheet has since been lost. again speculation, but you see where i'm going with this.

yeah, anyone really think DJs know the titles of the thousands of tracks they played over the years?


i can't even remember what i played last week, ffs. i'm not oakey, but still. after all those years of alcohol and perhaps drugs, i doubt he'll know what he played last week. it was most likely an unlabeled vinyl anyway.

Didn't the Symphonic Music 12" with the Sunrise mix on it get slipped into Oakenfold's record bag when he wasn't looking at the WMC in 1999?

Maybe something similar happened with this record at the same event or somewhere else. Who knows, weren't both the Sunrise mix of Symphonic Music and this unknown tune played only the one time in the Shanghai set. If this record was slipped into his bag and there isn't any identifiable marks on the vinyl then how would Oakie or anyone else besides the producer know the name of the song?

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Originally posted by whiskers yeah, anyone really think DJs know the titles of the thousands of tracks they played over the years?

I read a Sasha interview recently where he said that he never knew the names of tracks when he was playing vinyl, because he used to identify them in his crate by the colour and design of the sleeve when he was DJing. If this track was on white (which it probably was) the chances of Oakey remembering it aren't very high at all.

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Originally posted by physe Didn't the Symphonic Music 12" with the Sunrise mix on it get slipped into Oakenfold's record bag when he wasn't looking at the WMC in 1999? Maybe something similar happened with this record at the same event or somewhere else. Who knows, weren't both the Sunrise mix of Symphonic Music and this unknown tune played only the one time in the Shanghai set. If this record was slipped into his bag and there isn't any identifiable marks on the vinyl then how would Oakie or anyone else besides the producer know the name of the song?

That's correct.

J00f doesnt really use names either.

Unfortunately if Dragonsemeralds friend got a total white label then the chances are Oakey did too anyway, so no point asking him.

Now if I was DEs friend I'd be going through my 1000s of whites to find this and see if theres anything identifiable about the text in the vinyl groove

Seriously, I would.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I read a Sasha interview recently where he said that he never knew the names of tracks when he was playing vinyl, because he used to identify them in his crate by the colour and design of the sleeve when he was DJing. If this track was on white (which it probably was) the chances of Oakey remembering it aren't very high at all.

oh yeah, i remember reading that interview as well. it's much much easier to remember a visual picture than a track name


/wishes there was a way to do so with traktor

I think the TA's should organize a mass Oakie managerial pounding and e-mail/confront the shit out of his manager and see if we can't get Oakie to come fourth with some info about this track. I'm sure either Oakie or his assistants can get some info about this tune. Getting it released on Perfecto should be enough encouragement to make them do something about it.

Perfecto arent digitally releasing their backcatalogue, so I wouldnt call Oakie or his record company staff the bastion of common sense that that would require

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Originally posted by THE_Chris Perfecto arent digitally releasing their backcatalogue

Wait, I thought they did, on eMule?

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