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Posted by Abercrombie on Sep-30-2008 03:55:

Get on the National 'Do Not Call' list!

quote:
What you need to know about the Do Not Call List
Updated Mon. Sep. 29 2008 11:11 PM ET


CTV.ca News Staff

Canadians tired of having their dinners interrupted by telemarketers can now register their home and cellphone numbers with a Do Not Call List.

Those who want to register a phone number can go to www.LNNTE-DNCL.gc.ca or call 1-866-580-3625.

Telemarketing companies also have to register and purchase a subscription to access phone numbers they will be required to block from their calling lists.

But many companies are exempt from the new regulations, including registered charities, newspapers, political parties and polling and market research firms.

Also exempt is any company a caller has had business with in the past 18 months.

To solve that problem, Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa, has created a third-party Do Not Call List to pick up the slack.

"Once you exclude the political parties and survey companies, who is left?" Geist told CTV.ca.

Geist runs iOptOut.ca, a web service that allows users to register their phone numbers to block calls from exempted companies. The site issues an opt-out request on the user's behalf.

So far, 50,000 people have used it to make a total of five million opt-out requests.

"Many people will be disappointed when the number of calls they receive doesn't diminish," Geist said of the official Do Not Call List.

Canadians can also visit the Canadian Marketing Association's Do Not Contact service, located here. There is also a movement dedicated to reducing paper-based advertising, called the Red Dot Campaign.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) says because it has the power to enforce the new policies, Canadians will receive fewer telemarketing calls after they register.

"I think we'll soon see a reduction in the numbers of calls, but over time it will increase as companies and organizations become more and more compliant," Denis Carmel, spokesperson with the CRTC, told CTV.ca. "Some organizations could be oblivious of those rules and their responsibilities today, but over time I'm sure that everybody will understand their responsibilities and will be in compliance."

A new poll suggests Canadians have high hopes that the DNCL will be a successful venture.

A VoxPop survey has found that 61 per cent of Canadians are sure that despite exemptions to the list, they will still get fewer telemarketing calls.

Canadians can also ask to be added to the internal Do Not Call lists of exempted companies, which the CRTC also has the power to enforce.

The CRTC can levy fines of up to $1,500 to individuals who violate the new rules and up to $15,000 to corporations.

The exemptions are similar to those associated with a similar U.S. registry, which has been very successful at reducing the number of telemarketing calls that Americans receive, according to VoxPop.

A Harris Poll conducted in the U.S. last October found that 91 per cent of respondents received fewer telemarketing calls since registering with the list. Fifty-nine per cent of respondents said they received far fewer calls, while 18 per cent reported that they did not receive any telemarketing calls after joining the do not call list.

To date, more than 145 million people have registered for that list.

"The success of the U.S. do not call list suggests Canadians are right to believe their no-call list will be an efficient barrier against unwanted telemarketing calls," VoxPop spokeperson BrendanWycks, executive director of the Marketing Research and Intelligence Association, said in a statement.

VoxPop is a campaign by the MRIA designed to advance free speech through public opinion surveys.

Research suggests the list will be quite popular with Canadians.

A Harris/Decima survey found that 72 per cent of Canadians will add their numbers to the DNCL.

However, the survey, conducted on behalf of Pitney Bowes Canada, showed some businesses may be unaware of the new guidelines for telemarketing.

While 73 per cent of business owners know of the list, about 61 per cent of small business owners said they were unaware they could be fined for violating the new policy.

Companies will first get a warning letter in case they were unaware of the new regulations, Carmel said.

If a company continues to violate the rules, it will get a "notice of violation," which they can contest.

The CRTC would then rule if the company broke the rules and issue a fine.

Companies forced to scale back their telemarketing operations do have options. The Harris/Decima survey found that 52 per cent of respondents would prefer that companies solicit first-time business from them via the mail.

Forty-nine per cent said they also prefer hearing from companies they already do business with through the mail.

Direct mail marketing is a cost-effective way for companies to reach consumers, experts say.

According to the Direct Marketing Association, each $1 spent on direct mail marketing leads to $11 in sales, which is twice the return of any other advertising medium.

The companies have 31 days to add new numbers to their do not call lists.



I've been on the CDMA do not call list for years, but now this list reaches all telemarketers, not just members of the Canadian (Direct) Marketing Association.

FINALLY!!!!!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-30-2008 04:00:

Thank Christ. I'm also going to file a complaint against Rogers.


Posted by Orko on Sep-30-2008 04:04:

Remember political parties, charities, and surveys are still able to call your house.

EDIT: wonderful. just tried it, and the website broke. Good job guys.


Posted by Cuzo on Sep-30-2008 04:09:

I love when people try to sell me!


Posted by Abercrombie on Sep-30-2008 04:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Remember political parties, charities, and surveys are still able to call your house.

EDIT: wonderful. just tried it, and the website broke. Good job guys.


I did it without a problem, just b4 I started the thread..... damn you TAs breaking everything!


Posted by Abercrombie on Sep-30-2008 04:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Cuzo
I love when people try to sell me!


How are your windows and doors, Frank?


Posted by mnemonic. on Sep-30-2008 04:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
How are your windows and doors, Mikey?


...my bunker could use some natural light.


Posted by jchung52 on Sep-30-2008 04:50:

anyone need a postage meter? i work for francotyp postalia. we offer the best rates in the business guaranteed. if your business is getting raped by pitney bowes, pm me


Posted by Mach X on Sep-30-2008 05:23:

Thank YOU!!!

I get honestly, like 4 or 5 calls PER night on my home line, all 800, 888 numbers... please wait for an exciting message, we're excited to offer you... etc etc... hell I even get calls with the call display number 123-456-7890... how'd you get that number?!

Signed my shit up on both home and cell ... thanks again!


Posted by Jer on Sep-30-2008 05:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Cuzo
I love when people try to sell me!



Posted by She_Fitz on Sep-30-2008 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Thank Christ. I'm also going to file a complaint against Rogers.


They are exempt if they have a previous business relationship with you.


Posted by love_child on Sep-30-2008 12:46:

Here is the link to Register your number

CLICK HERE


Posted by Abercrombie on Sep-30-2008 13:02:

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
Here is the link to Register your number

CLICK HERE


Yours doesn't work this morning. The link in the top of my post does work though.

quote:

Those who want to register a phone number can go to www.LNNTE-DNCL.gc.ca or call 1-866-580-3625.



Also for those that also want to be removed from exempt organizations can add themselves to Geist's site noted in the article at http://www.ioptout.ca/


Posted by Orko on Sep-30-2008 14:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
I did it without a problem, just b4 I started the thread..... damn you TAs breaking everything!


And now the site is completly down. FUck guys, didn't you know there would be a rush? How hard it is to set up a very simple html form with a SQL query?


Posted by TO guy on Sep-30-2008 14:04:

Thanks for the links AJ, will try again a little later


Posted by Abercrombie on Sep-30-2008 15:11:


Posted by malek on Sep-30-2008 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Also for those that also want to be removed from exempt organizations can add themselves to Geist's site noted in the article at http://www.ioptout.ca/



great you guys broke that one too!!


Posted by love_child on Sep-30-2008 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Yours doesn't work this morning. The link in the top of my post does work though.




Also for those that also want to be removed from exempt organizations can add themselves to Geist's site noted in the article at http://www.ioptout.ca/


Yeah they worked this morning. I just kept having to refresh the page and I eventually got it but now it wont even let you go to the site.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Sep-30-2008 15:52:

both sites do not work.


Posted by exstasie on Sep-30-2008 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
both sites do not work.


they both worked for me like 30 minutes ago.

Just keep trying.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Sep-30-2008 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
they both worked for me like 30 minutes ago.

Just keep trying.



yeah
will wait till later on, I guess everyone rushed


Posted by Orko on Sep-30-2008 16:18:

When the site does work, I'm signing up everybody I know.

With the number of people so annoyed by telemarketing, it makes me wonder who is actually buying this stuff? Companies would not be wasting vast amounts of money of armies of callers unless they actually generated sales.

Is it just old people?


Posted by love_child on Sep-30-2008 16:53:

Hurry SITE IS BACK UP !!!!


LINK


Posted by FunkyCrew on Sep-30-2008 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by love_child
Hurry SITE IS BACK UP !!!!


LINK


Please correct the following errors:
We are experiencing a temporary technical problem. Please call one of the numbers below for registration, or try again later.


Posted by love_child on Sep-30-2008 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
Please correct the following errors:
We are experiencing a temporary technical problem. Please call one of the numbers below for registration, or try again later.


Wow thats messed up...its still working for me...I guess its hit and miss

EDIT : Ok you are right now when I tried it said :

Confirmation Required Please correct the following errors:
We are experiencing a temporary technical problem. Please call one of the numbers below for registration, or try again later.
You have requested the following number be registered on the National Do Not Call List (DNCL):


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