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I miss the Old School sound...

Doesn't it annoy u that soo many artists/DJs have changed their music/style over the years and have made themselves less appealing???

I miss Sven Vath's old style and his sets from OMEN as well as Dubfire, and Steve Lawler who have changed BIG time.

lets not forget Sasha and Digweed who use to be amazing but now suck

And whats up with DJs playing that boring minimal nowadays?


Feel free to post sets and videos from back in the day

boring minimal??? im sure the people who seen hawtin or the contakt shows will disagree....

I love a lot of the minimal sound that dominates various aspects of EDM; some of it is too 'minimal' for me but a lot of it is sweeeeet

people still listen to minimal?

Yes, because it's much better for artists to be stuck in the past and re-hashing the same sound from 10 years ago. Far more interesting.

But true, lots of DJs are playing boring minimal. Not that minimal is boring ( I rather like it), but alot of DJs just happen to play the boring stuff.

If DJs stuck with their oldschool styles people would bitch about the artist's sound not evolving.
Shitty situation sometimes but what can ya do

The only 'old school' I miss is Hip-Hop from the golden era (93-96).

Other than that, in with the new, out with the old I say.

Change is always good but I'd prefer it if DJs/artists played/produced better music.

I mean, look at Sven Vath back in the day and look at him now; he changed BIG time...really boring stuff.

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Originally posted by T_ALI lets not forget Sasha and Digweed who use to be amazing but now suck And whats up with DJs playing that boring minimal nowadays?

LoL @ S&D "suck". You are so far off the beaten path. S&D do not "suck", they simply do not play Progressive House/Trance anymore. Likewise, with most Artists/DJ's they evolve as the times change. I personally cannot stand S&D's new sound but thats because I've always been a huge obsessive progressive fan and that will NEVER change. Unfortunately people still think they play "Progressive" but the genres have been so bastardized over the years that what was once "Progressive Trance" can now be labeled "Progressive House" etc. It would have been nice to see them branch off of their "Original" sound that made them popular in the 90's but they never really blew me away in the Production side of things. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sasha didn't produce Xpander back in the day but rather just marketed under himself through the collaboration of other artists. Much like the thread about Joachim Garraud & David Guetta. Don't get me wrong though, this is just speculation. Anyways, they have moved on and unfortunately so have many others.

As far is Minimal is concerned, its always been here its just never been incredibly popular in North America. As with most things we tend to take far too long to adopt things from the other side of the world. I tend to think we go through far more fads than most other Continents ie. Electro.

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Originally posted by T_ALI lets not forget Sasha and Digweed who use to be amazing but now suck And whats up with DJs playing that boring minimal nowadays?

Effing double post. My bad.

/End rant.

i miss old school. i was really hoping this was what this thread was about rather than lawler and dubfire







also by "Sven Vath back in the day" do you mean the OFF project from the 80s? classic and def more fun!!!

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Originally posted by |3 |_ @ Z 3 |) I wouldn't even be surprised if Sasha didn't produce Xpander back in the day but rather just marketed under himself through the collaboration of other artists. Much like the thread about Joachim Garraud & David Guetta. Don't get me wrong though, this is just speculation. Anyways, they have moved on and unfortunately so have many others.

charlie may has always been heavily involved (pun intended) in production for sasha, spooky a bit too. don't think his work was ever totally ghostwritten though

I'm getting pretty excited for the "THE GIFT" on Dec 13th @ the guv

I totally agree with T_ALI and have had my rants on this many times....I think the biggest disappointment for me in recent memory was danny tenaglia's set in the main room at the guv and derek may's last set at footwork.......i just don't know why dj's can't stay true to their sound..or what used to be their sound...of all of the trends i have seen in the edm scene..this minimal one has to be the most frustrating for me...

You know what I do when DJs I like start playing crap? Find DJs who don't. Nobody's forcing you to follow around the same handful of DJs, you know.

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Originally posted by jennypie You know what I do when DJs I like start playing crap? Find DJs who don't. Nobody's forcing you to follow around the same handful of DJs you know.

if the sets really bad i'll probably never go out of my way to see them again, if it's just disappointing for expectations of a previously faved dj they've got another shot but 2 in a row i'd give up on them. we're pretty spoilt to have good artists here every week so i'd rather take the memories of an epic show or 2 way back that meant something to me and have someone new blow my mind than put up with 3 or more disappointments from the same DJ over and over again

Well, just like a DJs sound evolves, so should a listener's tastes, imo. Does everyone *really* still religiously listen to the same shit they listened to 5 to 10 years ago?

Backstreet Boys and O-Town? You betchya!

LoL, O Town.

My fav track ever...I still get the goosebumps. I recall was spun at the Better Days/Pleasure Force/Syrous dec 31 95 party too (meat packing plant!)...and many other late 90's parties...a true anthem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o4joooH5tg

Apparently Dubfire went to DC10 a couple of yrs ago, and hearing the residents spinning minimal had a profound impact on him, creating the shift in his sound...i.e. "ribcage".

Some change is good, some not so good (why do they have to do an electro remix of all the classics?). There's always crap productions out there and then there are some that are a breath of fresh air. Personal taste is a completely different matter that needs to be taken into account also.

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Originally posted by gummybear i just don't know why dj's can't stay true to their sound..or what used to be their sound....

haven't your music tastes changed in time? mine certainly have, i think it's natural that a DJ's tastes would too, how drastically would depend from one to the other. i'm sure they keep a special place for all the tracks that meant something back in the day for them and used to get huge reactions but if everyone else is moving on from the sound it's going to sound like a wayback playback night if you just want to listen to them for nostalgia. artists that always keep the exact same sound (e.g. the strokes, on every track) die a quick death, others that change up and make artistic decisions based on the changes within their genre and surrounding genres (e.g. justin timberlake) will lose some fans and make new ones for what they do, the old fans will still love them for what they used to do and hopefully remember fondly, the new ones will appreciate the evolution of the music

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Originally posted by jennypie Well, just like a DJs sound evolves, so should a listener's tastes, imo. Does everyone *really* still religiously listen to the same shit they listened to 5 to 10 years ago?

when it comes to trance; no!

but like I said I really miss Sven Vath's old sound from Omen, Steve Lawler, Dubfire etc...now they all sound soo boring


PS: The only minimal track I'll ever come close to liking is Disconnect by Richie Hawtin.

Psssst: Nobody's gonna tell Dubfire or Lawler that you don't like them anymore.

like I said; Change is always good!! But when I listen to some of my favourite DJs or when they come to TO, I expect to have a good time and not be disappointed/bored.

ie.

Paul Oakenfold
Tiesto
Steve Lawler
ATB
Sven Vath
Sasha and Digweed


however a DJ that I love and never get sick of is John OO Fleming who has always won me over

feel free to post old sets/vids









...I tried but I'm having a hard time finding then

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