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favorite DOS games?

i'm starting to bust out DOSbox- just got Wing Commander 3 and Crusader- No Regret fat middle-aged B movie mark hamill ftw

so i'm curious- what's your favorite DOS games? pics or descriptions welcome

tie fighter!

crusader! i used to love that haha, with the boba fett lookalike character i +1 with pkc, tie fighter is pretty much my favourite game ever. i used to like califoria games, space quest, c&c, all the old lucasarts adventure games and a whole heap of others too.

Descent!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho_Pinball

http://abandonia.com/en/games/1038/Psycho+Pinball.html

I preferred Pinball Fantasies, myself (Stones & Bones ftw).

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Originally posted by david.michael Descent!

Great mention, though Descent 2 is better if you ask me.

My favorites include...

Warcraft (the original)
Commander Keen
Prince of Persia (the original)
Aces of the Pacific
Red Baron
Wolfenstein 3-D
Doom 1, 2, Ultimate, Final
Might and Magic

x-wing/tie fighter series, Wing Comamnder series, Falcon 3.0, most of the Lucas Arts games with the Scumm engine...there are too many DOS games that i love to list. In fact i love more DOS game than games that came out in the last 10 years or so...they just made them better back then...they really did

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Originally posted by Moongoose i love more DOS game than games that came out in the last 10 years or so...they just made them better back then...they really did

In reality, that is hard to say, simply due to the "nostalgic effect" as I like to call it. Games that I used to play as a kid are and will always be better than the games I play today. Simply because I remember loving them so much.

But are the games really "better"?

Well, I WILL say that gaming has become a lot more commercialized in the last 5-10 years, with very few original franchises or properties (mostly sequels, rehashes, and remakes) and a lot more product placement/advertising taking priority over other aspects of the games that should be paid more attention to.

But still, it's all real cloudy as to if games were really "better" back in the day, or if we just see it that way since we always refer to the past as the "good ol' days".

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 In reality, that is hard to say, simply due to the "nostalgic effect" as I like to call it. Games that I used to play as a kid are and will always be better than the games I play today. Simply because I remember loving them so much. But are the games really "better"? Well, I WILL say that gaming has become a lot more commercialized in the last 5-10 years, with very few original franchises or properties (mostly sequels, rehashes, and remakes) and a lot more product placement/advertising taking priority over other aspects of the games that should be paid more attention to. But still, it's all real cloudy as to if games were really "better" back in the day, or if we just see it that way since we always refer to the past as the "good ol' days".

There are very very few games that can stand beside their grandchildren and still be considered as good imo. Old games were also much easier to make, and gamers expected far less from developers.

Tie fighter is pretty much the only title from (my) yesteryear that I don�t think has been bettered yet.

Commander Keen ftmfw!

I was just busting these out the other day with DosBox:

Clouds of Xeen
Darkside of Xeen
Zone 66
Dune 2

wolfenstein 3d
doom
x-wing
tie-fighter
warcraft
strike commander


...chex quest?

Full Throttle

Rise Of The Triad

!

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Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine ...chex quest?

ROFL!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN There are very very few games that can stand beside their grandchildren and still be considered as good imo. Old games were also much easier to make, and gamers expected far less from developers. Tie fighter is pretty much the only title from (my) yesteryear that I don�t think has been bettered yet.

Agreed.

I haven't played Tie Fighter in years, and I don't even remember the neat stuff about that game, but I'll say that every genre has been facelifted, updated, and improved at least a few times through the past two decades.

Certain things have happened in the game industry that I could live without (prices of games, number of rehashed sequels, etc.), but all in all, there really hasn't been a better time to be a gamer. We have motion controls, Blu-ray discs, online multiplayer, video rental services right from the console itself, not to mention re-releases of retro classes with increased quality of the visuals coming out on a weekly basis. I know that just about all of that pertains mainly to console gaming, but PC's have seen their share of awesomeness in the recent past as well.

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 Agreed. I haven't played Tie Fighter in years, and I don't even remember the neat stuff about that game, but I'll say that every genre has been facelifted, updated, and improved at least a few times through the past two decades. Certain things have happened in the game industry that I could live without (prices of games, number of rehashed sequels, etc.), but all in all, there really hasn't been a better time to be a gamer. We have motion controls, Blu-ray discs, online multiplayer, video rental services right from the console itself, not to mention re-releases of retro classes with increased quality of the visuals coming out on a weekly basis. I know that just about all of that pertains mainly to console gaming, but PC's have seen their share of awesomeness in the recent past as well.

yeah, the lazy sequels certainly aren't anything to crow about, but things have come a long way since my monochrome commodore 64 days, or being crammed close to my 12" tv coz my master system cords only reached so far.

but we really need a fvcking update to tie fighter!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, the lazy sequels certainly aren't anything to crow about, but things have come a long way since my monochrome commodore 64 days, or being crammed close to my 12" tv coz my master system cords only reached so far. but we really need a fvcking update to tie fighter!

+1 on the update. Though did you ever check out the Star Wars shooter on Gamecube that launched in 2001? I never played it, but apparently it was amazing, I don't remember the name. Either way, I know you prefer PC gaming, so it probably isn't your cup of tea anyway.

And regarding today's lazy sequels...well, to be honest, that was a problem in the past as well. With games on the Atari, a ton of them basically just ripped each other off, not really introducing anything new to the table and just sticking to tried and true gameplay concepts that the developers knew would work.

All of that monotony in gaming ideas is what almost caused the game industry to crash in the 80's. Luckily I believe it was the NES that prevented it. Thank you Nintendo!

+ fucking 1

Another tie fighter / x wing game would be awesome. The only thing is i dont think people would buy games like that anymore. But perhaps im wrong and space sims will make a comeback just like rpg games 10 years ago-

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Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 +1 on the update. Though did you ever check out the Star Wars shooter on Gamecube that launched in 2001? I never played it, but apparently it was amazing, I don't remember the name. Either way, I know you prefer PC gaming, so it probably isn't your cup of tea anyway.

no, didn't know anything about it. we PC guys miss out too often for my liking.

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Originally posted by Moongoose + fucking 1 Another tie fighter / x wing game would be awesome. The only thing is i dont think people would buy games like that anymore. But perhaps im wrong and space sims will make a comeback just like rpg games 10 years ago-

i dunno. i just assume there's a market because i know i want it, haha! freespace 2 came out in 1999 and that's been pretty much it as far as epic space combat games go. im sure the world is itching for a new one.

i'd like one where your performance affected the next mission(s) etc. in all seriousness, sometimes i have trouble getting to sleep coz my brain won't let go of the space sim its building in my head, lol. if i ever win lotto im gonna make this game

Crusader: No Remorse!!

Also old school Mech Warrior.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i'd like one where your performance affected the next mission(s) etc.

Freespace 2 was like that on several occasions. There was that mission where you had to destroy the sathanas' main beam cannons, and those you didn't blow up were in the next mission. Then there are tons of minor ones where cruisers and capital ships you don't destroy make an appearence later on.

But yeah - I'd like to see that mechanic expanded. Freespace 3 needs to be made, and tie-fighter needs to be re-made.

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Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine Freespace 2 was like that on several occasions. There was that mission where you had to destroy the sathanas' main beam cannons, and those you didn't blow up were in the next mission. Then there are tons of minor ones where cruisers and capital ships you don't destroy make an appearence later on. But yeah - I'd like to see that mechanic expanded. Freespace 3 needs to be made, and tie-fighter needs to be re-made.

really? i never noticed that. coolness. and yes, definitely need the sequels.

the only thing that i thought freespace didn't quite achieve was the sheer number of units in a battle. i almost creamed my pants though when i fired my first salvo of missiles and they all had a trail through the "sky". awesome.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN the only thing that i thought freespace didn't quite achieve was the sheer number of units in a battle.

Maybe so, but I don't think it's nessessary. FS2 had by far the most intense battles I'd ever experienced. There's just something so epic about chasing little fighters through constant flak fire while trying to dodge giant energy beams ten times the width of your own fighter as two capital ships fight it out with you inbetween, or attacking an ennemy destroyer, scaling along it's surface and poking at it with your little pew pew lasers, not realising that you're flying dangerousely close to an anti-cruiser beam, then suddenly the whole screen turns white and your subwoofer starts rumbling...

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