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about that $3000 lol

So after looking around and playing with stuff at guitar center. It came down to getting a little phatty for me, its still a moog, has that sound i want and is half the price. now there are different versions like stage, phatty 2, tribute

is there a difference in sound, oscs, presets or anything?

thanks fellas

http://www.moogmusic.com/littlephatty/?

Links to each of the 3 versions are listed along the left-hand column. Personally, I'd save up a few hundred bucks more and look for a second-hand Voyager rather than buy a new LP. In terms of sound, modulation routings, dedicated controls, and construction, it's easily more than twice the synth that the LP is IMO.

i went and played around with both, the voyager is nice, but to pay double the price ionno?

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Originally posted by dj bamshad i went and played around with both, the voyager is nice, but to pay double the price ionno?

What cryphonik said, Voyager offers much more than the Phatty.

FWIW, you can find a used Moog Voyager rack version for $1500-$1800.

Don't forget a good analogue compressor whether you buy the Phatty or Voyager. If you want to get the most use out of either, carve those transients real nice.

How about about using a software compressor

And you really think the voyager is thaaat much better than the lil phatty?

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Originally posted by dj bamshad How about about using a software compressor And you really think the voyager is thaaat much better than the lil phatty?

How about using a softsynth instead of the Moog?

Some might disagree, but whats point of getting a Moog when your not properly feeding it vitamin C? Get something like a DBX 160, test it out versus your favorite software compressor. If it dont make a difference after a few weeks, return it. Make sure there are no restocking fees. You won't want to return it though

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Originally posted by dj bamshad And you really think the voyager is thaaat much better than the lil phatty?

Absolutely. I really like my Voyager RME and I bought it second-hand for only about $350 more than a new LP costs. I've played the LP numerous times and really tried to like it, but I'm just not a fan of it at all - it's way too limited, is way overpriced, and sounds pretty boring IMO (IMO=in MY opinion). TBH, I'd take my DSI Mono Evolver Keyboard or even my Mopho over it (yeah, you read that right) - hence the reason I own these synths and NOT an LP. But, again, that's just my opinion. Buy the synth you like and don't let us make up your mind for you.

I have a Little Phatty and i can tell you, it sounds fantastic for bass sounds, anything else can be replicated by software.

The Voyager is a beast, but its only monophonic so its limited what sounds you can get from it, considering the price tag.
If i were you i would get a Phatty AND another VA Polyphonic synth.

And the Phatty has ONE big feature the Voyager doesnt have, and thats the Filter Overload function, which can really make some gritty, dirty sounds, or just add some spice to other sounds.

The price of a Phatty is almost 1/3 of a Voyager with keys.

well like i said i tried both, and both are great imo (me being a noob to hardware synths)

and from the sounds i know that a softsynth cannot replicate what i did, they just had more balls than softsynths lol

w/e i do i want to buy a new one so i wont run into any problems and the little phatty was not that far behind from the voyager (i'd like more input on this topic if anyone likes to share)

another question that might get me shit from some people, but is the bassline in this song able to be achieved in the little phatty, because i did it in the voyager..i just need confirmation! lol thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsGr4hsQtvo at around 1:50 - 2:00 its the little stab that hits against the bassline.. thanks again

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Get something like a DBX 160, test it out versus your favorite software compressor. If it dont make a difference after a few weeks, return it. Make sure there are no restocking fees. You won't want to return it though

if i want to do something like that, i dont want to half ass it and buy another one 6 months down the road, so could you give me like a few options to good ones that would go with a lp or voyager?

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Don't forget a good analogue compressor whether you buy the Phatty or Voyager. If you want to get the most use out of either, carve those transients real nice

I really dont understand why you would want to get a good hardware compressor for a synthesizer. If you are going to be recording acoustic instruments, drumes etc then yes. Why would he need a compressor for the moog voyager or LP? If you want to get the very best sound out of your voyager (assuming you buy one). Learn the instrument inside out, get a good quality pre-amp/DI and a high quality A/D converter.

Why would you want to design the transients of the synth with a compressor? That is what its envelopes are for. If you are needing to compress synths on a regular basis then you need to learn alot more about sound design/synthesis imo.

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And the Phatty has ONE big feature the Voyager doesnt have, and thats the Filter Overload function, which can really make some gritty, dirty sounds, or just add some spice to other sounds

Try taking a feed of either the voyager headphone output or right main out (if using in mono) then feeding it back into the external input of the synth. Turn on the external input switch and drive the level to taste! This was a trick used extensively on the original minimoogs back in the 70s. Depending on how high you set the external input level, you can get some huge distorted/screaming leads and basses etc.

If you have a voyager, try routing a sound into a distortion pedal or similar, pre-filter. (you can do this on the voyager). Then route back into the synth and use its filters, post distortion. This sounds awesome too.

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Originally posted by dannib Try taking a feed of either the voyager headphone output or right main out (if using in mono) then feeding it back into the external input of the synth. Turn on the external input switch and drive the level to taste! This was a trick used extensively on the original minimoogs back in the 70s. Depending on how high you set the external input level, you can get some huge distorted/screaming leads and basses etc. If you have a voyager, try routing a sound into a distortion pedal or similar, pre-filter. (you can do this on the voyager). Then route back into the synth and use its filters, post distortion. This sounds awesome too.

Yes, that is exactly what the Filter Overload function is emulating on the Phatty.

Andrommmeeedaaaaa. It's like 16 Moogs in one!

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Originally posted by alanzo Andrommmeeedaaaaa. It's like 16 Moogs in one!

just a little porn.



What a beauty..

They can�t be compared though.

I have to say that you should decide for yourself if you wnt the voyager or the LP.
Listen to sound demos to get an idea. If I were you, I�d definitely buy the LP.
Have you considered the prophet 08? That�s my next purchase. It has some cool features
my andromeda does not have, and it sounds quite differently. Great for oberheim sounds!

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Originally posted by Beyer Have you considered the prophet 08? That�s my next purchase. It has some cool features my andromeda does not have

Like what?

Seems like I need to take that back. I misunderstood some features on the prophet.
In that case, it seems like there isn�t much of anything new compared to the andromeda.
I still would like one though.

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Originally posted by alanzo Andrommmeeedaaaaa. It's like 16 Moogs in one!

the only problem is that it sounds like 0.16 moogs

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Originally posted by thecYrus the only problem is that it sounds like 0.16 moogs

Noo way. I agree that one Moog Voyager will sound better than a single voice on the Andromeda, but not 84% better. More like 25% better. The OSCs and Filter and VERY close to the moog and, although the Voyager has 3 voices, the Andromeda can play all of its OSC types at once and has two sub OSCs.

try listening to "katana - alesis", there u hear how fucking good andromeda is. its fantastic airy breathy light and omg up there in the sky!
edit: i forgot to say how crisp it is no idea how it is for bass tho, but bass is just so 08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaux5UyEwuE some bass

pretty scare stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9iH5G1-jIs&NR=1

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Originally posted by palm pretty scare stuff! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9iH5G1-jIs&NR=1

indeed it is lol but you guys stole my thread!


my last question was if i could get this stab sound out of a little phatty, because i was able to from the voyager. i just need to make sure i can out the lp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsGr4hsQtvo

at around 1:50 - 2:00 its the little stab that hits against the bassline

I think bass isn't one of the andromeda's best strengths. Its is awesome for sound effects, evolving pads etc though.

Even the little phatty can get a stronger bass sound:

Little Phatty

Although that guy is also an awesome player! The voyager can get some really sick basses though and i just love the moog sound.

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my last question was if i could get this stab sound out of a little phatty, because i was able to from the voyager. i just need to make sure i can out the lp

It is a pretty standard stab that sound. It sounds as if it is a three note chord. Remember the Phatty only has two oscillators, while the voyager has three and a noise generator as well. With the voyager you would just tune ocsillator 2 & 3 differently to osc 1 to create the chord, then just use the envelopes to create the pluckiness.

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Originally posted by dannib I think bass isn't one of the andromeda's best strengths. Its is awesome for sound effects, evolving pads etc though. Even the little phatty can get a stronger bass sound: Little Phatty Although that guy is also an awesome player! The voyager can get some really sick basses though and i just love the moog sound.

With the sub OSCs, the Addromeda can make some VERY fat and deep basses. That paired with the ring mod make it very sound guttural. It can sound just like that demo with the 4 pole filter, which is modeled after a Moog modular.

Personally, I feel the Moog filter sound is over used.

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