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9/11 style fire in beijing, but building still standing.
Would somebody explain how the WTC fell down and this building didn't?
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| A fierce fire engulfed a major new building in Beijing that houses a luxury hotel and cultural center Monday, the last day of celebrations for the lunar new year when the city was alight with fireworks. The building was designed by the Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas and is part of China Central Television's new headquarters, an angular wonder of modernist architecture that was built to coincide with the Beijing Olympics last year. The fire was burning from the ground floor to the top floor, the flames reflecting in the glass facade of the main CCTV tower next to the hotel and cultural center. The 241-room Mandarin Oriental hotel in the building was due to open this year. Flames were spotted around 9:30 p.m., and within 20 minutes the fire had spread throughout the building. |
pkcRailsten... I patiently await your response to this thread 
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| Originally posted by The17sss pkcRailsten... I patiently await your response to this thread |
well it was a new construction. Developers learned new methods after 9 11 to make sure teh buildings wouldn't fall no matter what.
1) different materials used in the buildings,
2) the different materials have different tolerances to heat and generally react differently to heat,
3) different fuels igniting the fire,
4) heat from the fire likely different temperatures due to the fuels,
5) different construction methods,
6) different architecture and design, and
7) a big-ass plane was also embedded at over 400 mph into the frame of the WTC, severing a significant portion of the support for the upper floors.
easy - next question please!
Re: 9/11 style fire in beijing, but building still standing.
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| Originally posted by Kinezi Would somebody explain how the WTC fell down and this building didn't? http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02...NG.3-426247.php |
Re: 9/11 style fire in beijing, but building still standing.
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| Originally posted by Kinezi Would somebody explain how the WTC fell down and this building didn't? http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02...NG.3-426247.php |
Damn, my sister's in Beijing and this thread title nearly gave me a heart attack.
Heh, please? WTC 7 was completed in '87.
It's amazing how eager you all are to fool yourselves.
Ta ta
CONSPIRACY, I tell ya!
not again.........................
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| Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Heh, please? WTC 7 was completed in '87.    It's amazing how eager you all are to fool yourselves. Ta ta |
Holy Shit !!! Is that Building 7????
btw great fucking movie!!
Talking about 9/11 style fires ... my condolenses to PKC with regards to the raging fires (over now) which have decimated parts of Victoria province in Australia. Over 181 dead. And worst of all, it turns out that some fucking fucktard arsonists were behind some of those fires - terrorists would be another way of calling those people.
Extreme weather and temperatures, and mentally unstable people - a combination for disaster.
With regards to this topic - I must point out that this Beijing fire is not a good argument to compare with 9/11 fires. Because there are too many differences and sequences of events that can used to justify any point. The only thing that this thread can turn into is another slugfest between PKC/Crisp camp and the other ... wait - what happened to Trancer-X? Just realized he hasnt been posting for some time.
PKC is a magnet to any thread that can be possibly related to 9/11 or any kind of conspiracy, kinda amazing with the kind of lightning speed he finds these things and responds. Faster than a bot! 
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium PKC is a magnet to any thread that can be possibly related to 9/11 or any kind of conspiracy, kinda amazing with the kind of lightning speed he finds these things and responds. Faster than a bot! |
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| Osama says HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ATTACKS OF 9/11! - Here is the transcript of what you were not allowed to hear from Osama binLaden's own mouth: - Not many people know that, after September 11, 2001, Osama bin Laden issued a statement on tape that he had nothing to do with the attacks on America and that such actions were against the teachings of Islam. Americans were prevented from accessing this information because we were told that Osama could possibly have an embedded "secret code" in the tape that would alert other terrorists cells to "activate" and target other American cities. - Osama bin Laden: "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States." |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium wait - what happened to Trancer-X? Just realized he hasnt been posting for some time. |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium PKC is a magnet to any thread that can be possibly related to 9/11 or any kind of conspiracy, kinda amazing with the kind of lightning speed he finds these things and responds. Faster than a bot! |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium wait - what happened to Trancer-X? Just realized he hasnt been posting for some time. |
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| Originally posted by DEV1ANT It's apparently enough to make even someone like myself say f*** off to morally and mentally disconnected posers like Lira and the rest of the sellout, do nothing, TrancEaddict crew. Fuck those people disgust me. I couldn't hold back my contempt for them any longer as it's grown far beyond simple righteous indignation. It's almost as if they're just automatons who weren't even born with souls, let alone the independent thought processes that are required to guide them through this life without mindlessly taking their cues from some increasingly abusive authority. Yeah, I know that I should have chilled out but I figure that I definitely have a lot better things to do with my time than argue with a bunch of ignorant pricks who care about nothing but themselves, anyway. They're just eager to defend their ignorance because it's that very ignorance which has formed the entire basis of their existence here on this earth. They truly are just like pavlov's Poodles and it's nothing but unconscious incompetence. They don't even care about what they don't know. Anyhow, at least I stood up for what was right and not just for what was convenient, comforting, or profitable to me. The truth will prevail. It always does. Peace. (and I'm sorry to those innocent bystanders who I may offended) |
Trancer and the supporters of that view are not skizo or paranoid - they are quite harmless to the public, but some people who fear their views or consider them to be crazy views just refer back with insults and personal attacks, degradatory comments.
Crazy people HURT other people. Like those arsonists in Australia. You havent actually bumped into the REAL skizos or psychos, my friend. "Conspiracy theorists" just have a different point of view, and Trancer's is a very strong and determined view.
He just made a mistake by losing his cool and let other people take advantage and spill the conversation out of control, pretty much. I've seen that before in other situations.
That being said, I support some of these views, often partially. As a random example, I dont believe in a Zionist worldwide conspiracy where its claimed that Zionists rule the world, but I do believe that Zionists have a lot of powers and are influencing some world issues in their favour, with lobbyists - seen with Israel and American involvement in Middle East. Conspiracy side of my view on this is that there are Zionists well established in American political foundation / system, and they play some role in American policy. Look, Obama already re-affirmed strong support for Israel and its policies. And look - who do you think lobbied in some EU countries to make the denial or questioning of Holocaust a crime punishable by a prison term? You think that the government just passed that law just because they were bored out of their minds? No, there are plenty of other issues to deal with, and quite frankly many laws that should get passed and dont, while that one did pass.
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Trancer and the supporters of that view are not skizo or paranoid - they are quite harmless to the public, but some people who fear their views or consider them to be crazy views just refer back with insults and personal attacks, degradatory comments. Crazy people HURT other people. Like those arsonists in Australia. You havent actually bumped into the REAL skizos or psychos, my friend. "Conspiracy theorists" just have a different point of view, and Trancer's is a very strong and determined view. He just made a mistake by losing his cool and let other people take advantage and spill the conversation out of control, pretty much. I've seen that before in other situations. That being said, I support some of these views, often partially. As a random example, I dont believe in a Zionist worldwide conspiracy where its claimed that Zionists rule the world, but I do believe that Zionists have a lot of powers and are influencing some world issues in their favour, with lobbyists - seen with Israel and American involvement in Middle East. Conspiracy side of my view on this is that there are Zionists well established in American political foundation / system, and they play some role in American policy. Look, Obama already re-affirmed strong support for Israel and its policies. And look - who do you think lobbied in some EU countries to make the denial or questioning of Holocaust a crime punishable by a prison term? You think that the government just passed that law just because they were bored out of their minds? No, there are plenty of other issues to deal with, and quite frankly many laws that should get passed and dont, while that one did pass. |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium [COLOR=FF7F50] I must point out that this Beijing fire is not a good argument to compare with 9/11 fires |
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| Originally posted by XaNaX name one time when this has prevented any of those tinfoil hat wearing nutjobs from going right ahead and making such comparisons? |
Of course the building is still standing. Fires alone do not and have never brought a building down in all of history.
Just an observation from the FBI's web page,
September 11, 2001
Following the massive terrorist attacks against New York and Washington, the FBI dedicated 7,000 of its 11,000 Special Agents and thousands of FBI support personnel to the PENTTBOM investigation. "PENTTBOM" is short for Pentagon, Twin Towers Bombing.
http://www.fbi.gov/intelligence/di_timeline.htm
Nope no plane hit this building.
No shit. A building hit that building.
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| Originally posted by culorut Of course the building is still standing. Fires alone do not and have never brought a building down in all of history. |
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