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Xone 92 vs. DJM 800 vs. Ecler Evo 4

I know everyone loves the Xone, but I'm having a hard time deciding what to get. I spin Trance, House and Techno in my room and some house parties. I use Torq with cdj 800's.

Xone: Probably the best mixer out of the group. Not sure how I feel about the 4 EQs (I'm sure I'll learn to love them). Also, no effects, but I have Torq that could solve that problem, however, Xone midi sucks.

DJM 800: We all know about this one. Would be nice to learn on the "industry standard" if I start djing out. Good midi, effects, etc. Not as good as the Xone or Ecler.

Ecler Evo 4: Basically has it all. But is probably the most expensive. I think I can get the DJM and Xone for close to $1300 new, Ecler is more like $1450.


The Xone and Evo are the best, but for some reason I feel like I should just play it safe and get the DJM800

behringer djx700 ftw!!!!

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...again?

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Originally posted by Tony Morello ...again?

I searched, never been done before

you don't consider the analog effects effects on the xone?

ham sandwich

everybody is gonna tell you something different here. personally, all I can do is assume you're someone who wants midi, fx, and the best sound quality. in which case I would recommend the evo4 ahead of the xone and way ahead of the djm-800.

to me, the djm-800's filter curves are really sharp and the sound is just too "harsh" and digital and "perfect." That is, I like my sound to have some analog coloring in it, which is why the xones are so popular (that and the 4band eq's you mentioned). The xones are great, but not terribly conducive to spinning a lot of different genres.

with the evo4, you get two really dope fx processors with 2 lcd screens, 4 channels + of midi, and ecler sound which I think is just as good if not better than the xone. I have an evo5 and love it, but its probably overkill for what you're doing. I did play with an evo4 last year in miami and it was fantastic though. super easy to pick up, tons of fx possibilities, full eq kills, and a good balance between analog and digital. in other words, more future proof than the xone or djm.

good luck =)

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Originally posted by Max Thomson everybody is gonna tell you something different here. personally, all I can do is assume you're someone who wants midi, fx, and the best sound quality. in which case I would recommend the evo4 ahead of the xone and way ahead of the djm-800. to me, the djm-800's filter curves are really sharp and the sound is just too "harsh" and digital and "perfect." That is, I like my sound to have some analog coloring in it, which is why the xones are so popular (that and the 4band eq's you mentioned). The xones are great, but not terribly conducive to spinning a lot of different genres. with the evo4, you get two really dope fx processors with 2 lcd screens, 4 channels + of midi, and ecler sound which I think is just as good if not better than the xone. I have an evo5 and love it, but its probably overkill for what you're doing. I did play with an evo4 last year in miami and it was fantastic though. super easy to pick up, tons of fx possibilities, full eq kills, and a good balance between analog and digital. in other words, more future proof than the xone or djm. good luck =)

Thanks for the input. I wish I could pick up a used one or something to get a small break on the price, but hardly anyone has it. Kind of another reason why I'm a little hesitant.

I'm just too indecisive, so I need someone to sway me

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Originally posted by tintin11 you don't consider the analog effects effects on the xone?

I do, but I was talking more like the roll effect and crap like that. Even though the only effects I really use are filters and flangers, I'd like to have things to play with though

i had this problem before..

I choosed to go with djm800 because it has efx inbuilt, and it has the best digital sound, good build quality and there is a reason why it is world-wide standard together with xone 92.

I would have gone with an xone if their send return function wasnt so stupid.. But im happy, really happy. DJM-800 is a very good mixer, people that only bash it down dont know how good this thing really is.

This mixer is for all styles: progg,house,trance, techno, you name it.

I dont personally hate the 800, but the people who hate it around here has most likely used both extensively.

Effects are gimmicky.. the only one thats semi good is the roll feature.

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Originally posted by i got big pants behringer djx700 ftw!!!! ....

I actually use one as my home mixer. Yeah, yeah, laugh all you want. It was the first mixer I ever bought, which was 5 years ago. It's still working just fine, and if I can make a good mix on that pile of crap, I can make a good mix on anything

Best $150 I've ever spent.

The EVO4 is a kickass mixer! Lots of fun to use...especially with DUAL FX banks, which no other mixer has!

As for the price, yes, $1450 is the MAP price, but most dealers sell for less

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Originally posted by andresi I would have gone with an xone if their send return function wasnt so stupid..

Why is it stupid ? The Xone is, to me, more of a studio mixer than a DJ mixer like the DJM. I guess you were looking for a specific way to hook up, for exemple, an EFX with the Xone without using another channel ? Yes, the Xone is more "complicated" for the send/returns features, but I find this way to be much better than the DJM way. Anyway, I've always been a studio console guy.

For the record, I own a Xone92 and owned an EFX1000 in the past.

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Originally posted by Soundwerks especially with DUAL FX banks, which no other mixer has!

Mixers might not have it, but Traktor Scratch Pro lets me do all kind of a crazy combinations.. In essence, I could kick off 6 effects at the same time, where's that crazy eyes smiley face gone haha..

I know what you mean though.

Ecler's styling imo is the nicest out of all of the mixers. (I own a 92)

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Originally posted by Soundwerks The EVO4 is a kickass mixer! Lots of fun to use...especially with DUAL FX banks, which no other mixer has! As for the price, yes, $1450 is the MAP price, but most dealers sell for less

I can't find it anywhere under $1450. Any recommendations? Agi has it for $1450 and they're usually the lowest.

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Originally posted by Neo95gt I can't find it anywhere under $1450. Any recommendations? Agi has it for $1450 and they're usually the lowest.

look for used ? Used isn't bad at all ... if the guy respects his equipment, you can save hundreds for a like new. And if it's for playing in your bedroom and at some parties, it's worth it to get a used one.

Theres a guy on djforums selling his evo4 for $1150. In california, but willing to ship.

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Originally posted by Neo Hacker look for used ? Used isn't bad at all ... if the guy respects his equipment, you can save hundreds for a like new. And if it's for playing in your bedroom and at some parties, it's worth it to get a used one.

I've been. I've never seen a used one listed anywhere...

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Originally posted by Neo Hacker Why is it stupid ? The Xone is, to me, more of a studio mixer than a DJ mixer like the DJM. I guess you were looking for a specific way to hook up, for exemple, an EFX with the Xone without using another channel ? Yes, the Xone is more "complicated" for the send/returns features, but I find this way to be much better than the DJM way. Anyway, I've always been a studio console guy. For the record, I own a Xone92 and owned an EFX1000 in the past.

Yes, i also think its more studio mixer than regular djm mixer.
And yes, exakly, and easy function to hook up the efx signal to master output without having to route it through the mixer!

For 92:
You got two "easiest" options that im aware of, that is
one: returning the efx signal to mic fader, and be gentle when fade up that fader simulteanasly as you fade down the original channel.
two: you route the efx signal through a spare channel and could use the crossfader for smoothest "dry to wet controll", sounds decent without different sound changes, but you always must remember to have the same eq tweaks on both channels.
And i dont understand how u do if you want to efx two channels at the same time.

That is not OK for beeing 92/62 at that price range.
I think djm solution is good, not complicated at all.

Otherwise i really love the 92.. so wonderful sound if you wanna go analogue..
And sorry for my bad english!

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Originally posted by andresi two: you route the efx signal through a spare channel and could use the crossfader for smoothest "dry to wet controll", sounds decent without different sound changes, but you always must remember to have the same eq tweaks on both channels. And i dont understand how u do if you want to efx two channels at the same time.

That's what I was doing but I wasn't using the crossfader as dry/wet. It was more of an on/off switch. I was switching very fast from one end to another, so I could still use the dry/wet button on the EFX, which is more convenient.

Also, note that there's a 1ms lag between the send and the receive. I've done multiple testing, and when the EFX is not set at ByPass, if you put your crossfader of 92 to the middle, you will have an echo in your sound, which is caused by a 1ms delay from your original sound to your efx output. This is why I used the ON/OFF thing as crossfader.

I don't understand what you mean by using the EFX two channels at the same time. Do you mean sending 2 channels to the EFX ? If so it's very easy, just turn the AUX SEND knob on the second channel, as you did for the first ... it will send both signals to the EFX and it will return in 1 channel. You cannot return the EFX on 2 separate channels, it has only 1 output, unless you split it, but this is useless. If you wanna use multiple sources, play with the AUX SEND knobs, this is the correct way on a studio mixer

Hope this helps

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Originally posted by Neo95gt I can't find it anywhere under $1450. Any recommendations? Agi has it for $1450 and they're usually the lowest.

$1450 is the MAP (Minumum Advertised Price). Retailers HAVE to show this on their websites and/or in advertisements. If you e-mail them, they will give you a lower price

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Originally posted by andresi And sorry for my bad english!

Your English is better than a lot of the members on here. I wouldn't worry about it

Never used the wet and dry on the crossfader.. must try it.

nelly

Now I'm looking at the Xone 42 as well

After watching some youtube vids, the Ecler is pretty freggin impressive...

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Originally posted by Neo95gt Now I'm looking at the Xone 42 as well After watching some youtube vids, the Ecler is pretty freggin impressive...

Yeah, I'd probably go Ecler if I were in your shoes. As someone said before, it's definitely the most "future proof."

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