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Posted by Kinezi on Mar-09-2009 20:09:

Sad The effect of Financial Crisis on Trance scene!

What do you think is the effect of current Financial Crisis (thanks to Bush) on the local trance scene in your area? No matter which part of the world you are, you are in miserable financial condition, you are poorer than ever, we all know that. So are you going to pubs less? Less concerts? Did the price of tickets for Tiesto concerts selling in discount in your part of the world?

Share it all here.


Posted by UWM on Mar-09-2009 20:23:

I never really have to pay to get in anywhere I go so it hasn't affected me at all.


Posted by Clovis on Mar-09-2009 20:25:

Re: The effect of Financial Crisis on Trance scene!

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
No matter which part of the world you are, you are in miserable financial condition, you are poorer than ever, we all know that.



Not really.

The "recession" has had no measurable or meaningful impact on clubbing in Los Angeles as far as I can tell.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Mar-09-2009 20:28:

glowsticks are "buy 3 get 1 free" at Spencer Gift Shop.


Posted by Trance-M on Mar-09-2009 20:42:

Trance-Energy 2009 was sold out two weeks before (30.000).

51.000 tickets were sold in one day for Pinkpop 2009. A new record.

So that doesn't seem to be affected by the crisis.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Mar-09-2009 20:48:

Re: Re: The effect of Financial Crisis on Trance scene!

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Not really.

The "recession" has had no measurable or meaningful impact on clubbing in Los Angeles as far as I can tell.


well no hard data will be made available until July but the restaurant/tourism/nightlife scene has been drastically hurt. We dont' know how it compares to previous years but they think there has been over 75% decline in venues (both operational and pending opening) compared to previous years.


Posted by stev�sto on Mar-09-2009 21:02:

i have noticed attendance at all clubs is down, in my area anyway. not just techno but hip hop as well. i predict the rave scene will make a come back and music will go back to the grassroots operations of the old days. people will start to throw more illegal parties out in the woods or on a secluded beach. there will be less shallow commercialism in dance music.


Posted by SMC on Mar-09-2009 21:03:

Re: The effect of Financial Crisis on Trance scene!

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
(thanks to Bush)


lol, if it was that simple, that easy.


Posted by Trance-M on Mar-09-2009 21:26:

Re: Re: The effect of Financial Crisis on Trance scene!

quote:
Originally posted by SMC
lol, if it was that simple, that easy.


Banks, mortgages....at least a huge part...


Posted by Clovis on Mar-09-2009 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
i have noticed attendance at all clubs is down, in my area anyway. not just techno but hip hop as well. i predict the rave scene will make a come back and music will go back to the grassroots operations of the old days. people will start to throw more illegal parties out in the woods or on a secluded beach. there will be less shallow commercialism in dance music.


I predict that everything you've just described is and already has been happening in many cities in the United States for quite some time.


Posted by Clovis on Mar-09-2009 22:14:

Re: Re: Re: The effect of Financial Crisis on Trance scene!

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
well no hard data will be made available until July but the restaurant/tourism/nightlife scene has been drastically hurt. We dont' know how it compares to previous years but they think there has been over 75% decline in venues (both operational and pending opening) compared to previous years.


"as far as I can tell"

The number being pulled in at events I help with and club nights I attend do not seemed to be affected by the recession at all.


Posted by wing on Mar-09-2009 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
i have noticed attendance at all clubs is down, in my area anyway. not just techno but hip hop as well. i predict the rave scene will make a come back and music will go back to the grassroots operations of the old days. people will start to throw more illegal parties out in the woods or on a secluded beach. there will be less shallow commercialism in dance music.


YES


Posted by LoveHate on Mar-09-2009 23:40:

if anything the financial crisis should raise the attendence to clubs and raves.


Posted by Zoso on Mar-10-2009 00:07:

Jesus Christ, now Bush is to blame for the recession and the downfall of trance? What happened to just blaming Ferry/Armin/Tiesto?


Posted by alexf on Mar-10-2009 00:15:

there is scientific proof that in our western world the amount of money we have/deal with is much much higher than what we would need to be happy. there is no natural saturation of wealth (as it is for example with a happy mother of 6 children, she'll perhaps find it's "enough" now) so all we want is to get richer and richer, way above the range where it could directly affect our happiness. now it becomes clear that the financial crisis is mostly a psychological one. a banker who loses 3 mio $/� of his 7 mio $/� deposit WONT have long term losings in his happiness, only short time panic. the "crisis" really doesnt affect us that much, except for the small percentage of workers whose job is at stake. so there probably is no effect on the partying scene as there is little effect on our daily life, much less effect than the yellow press wants us to believe


Posted by iammesol on Mar-10-2009 00:51:

1. Bush wasn't the only reason this is happening.
2. Wait about six more months to see real changes.


Posted by DJ Blitzkrieg on Mar-10-2009 01:17:

The unicorns are scarce.


Posted by _IDS_ on Mar-10-2009 10:04:

quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
glowsticks are "buy 3 get 1 free" at Spencer Gift Shop.




Posted by daphunky1 on Mar-10-2009 10:19:

I live in a mountain resort town. Recession combined with bad snow mean tourism is waaay down and and many youths just looking for service jobs have lost their jobs or just can't find work at all. I lost my job and it took me 25 days to find another one which s weird for this town, when last season it seemed like every business could use someone.

When the locals get less hours they don't go out and party.... though the last 2 nights I've been out at packed (small) clubs. Me and my roommate were just hitchhiking home 15 mins ago at 3am when a rad cab driver took us almost all the way home for free just to be a nice guy. I guess locals still find cheap fun on weekdays.


Posted by Trance-M on Mar-10-2009 11:52:

quote:
Originally posted by alexf
the "crisis" really doesnt affect us that much, except for the small percentage of workers whose job is at stake. so there probably is no effect on the partying scene as there is little effect on our daily life, much less effect than the yellow press wants us to believe


Little effect on our daily life?
For some maybe, but what for eg Automotive?
Every 1 of 10 jobs in the US is related to that.
500.000 jobs lost in November 2008, 693.000 in December and another 2 million jobs exepted to be lost in 2009.
And then I only talk about US.
If the crisis until now didn't have affect it probably will soon, although maybe not at the partying scene.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Mar-10-2009 14:01:

Restaurants in my area seem to be experiencing a bit of a loss, although chain restaurants remain more popular than ever. Clubs/bars still remain crowded as ever on weekends, especially the ones with low cover charges... guess you can't stop people from going out.


Posted by Redd on Mar-10-2009 14:20:

financial crisis = depression = more drugs = more raves

amidoinitrite?


Posted by chrisday on Mar-10-2009 14:54:

Its an interesting point.

I would assume that the majority of clubbers are young people with a fairly high disposable income (no houses, cars etc..) Maybe a bit generalistic, but I still think this is a key factor, so therefore I think clubs will still remain healthy..

Personally for me, me and my mates have stopped going out into the big cities, and generally stopped going out and to be honest its been a blessing in disguise, we're now spending much more time doing pro active things such as football and pub lunch on the wkends rather than just getting smashed and feeling shit all wkend.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Mar-10-2009 16:53:

Re: Re: Re: Re: The effect of Financial Crisis on Trance scene!

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
"as far as I can tell"

The number being pulled in at events I help with and club nights I attend do not seemed to be affected by the recession at all.


i understand man i figured since we're in the same market i'd quote you on what i've heard. i wasn't trying to refute your statement.


Posted by Clovis on Mar-10-2009 18:03:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The effect of Financial Crisis on Trance scene!

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
i understand man i figured since we're in the same market i'd quote you on what i've heard. i wasn't trying to refute your statement.


Werd. Are you seeing more noticeable decline in SD?

There are dead nights up here but they seem to continue to be mostly the fault of other usual factors and not influenced by the downturn.

Dirty South did just practically sell out Vanguard on a Saturday.


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