TranceAddict Forums

TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Political Discussion / Debate
-- Teabagging in Washington
Pages (3): [1] 2 3 »


Posted by LazFX on Apr-11-2009 02:28:

Talking Teabagging in Washington



now this is gold jerry!! ha ha


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Apr-15-2009 18:01:

This is getting out of control. There are literally protestors in Washington throwing teabags... if only they could see themselves.

Also, hilarious:

quote:
The First Rule of the Republican Party Is Always Say Indescribably Stupid Things
By John Cook, 12:58 PM on Wed Apr 15 2009, 2,257 views

Republicans are up in arms over the insinuation that their historical reenactments of acts of violent vandalism are somehow extremist. So they are comparing themselves�favorably!�to the guy in Fight Club who blows up banks.

Today's meme on the right is that Obama's storm troopers are deliberately painting law-abiding, peaceful tax protesters as dangerous right-wing terrorists. This fantasy is based on the confluence of two events: The scheduled "tea party" events wherein white rich people can vent their rage at having to concede power to a nonwhite rich people, and the release this week of a Department of Homeland Security bulletin warning local authorities to be on the look-out for right-wing nutjobs. When Michelle Malkin hears "violent right-wing extremism," her ears naturally start burning. She thinks DHS was talking about her, and she's outraged.

OK, so if the Tea Baggers aren't violent extremists seeking the overthrow of the federal government, what are they, then? Over to you, Matt Mackowiak, Republican operative and former press secretary to Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, writing in the Austin-American Statesman:

quote:
The coming revolution is akin to "Fight Club," the 1999 film that follows the struggles of day to day life for a regular guy who starts an underground fight club as radical and not terribly productive psychotherapy.

As Brad Pitt's character, Tyler Durden, says in the movie, "Fight Club was the beginning, now it's moved out of the basement, it's called Project Mayhem."


Tyler Durden, you may remember, was the imaginary friend a boring guy in a suit created during his descent into psychosis. And Project Mayhem, you will recall, was a plot to destroy the nation's financial system by blowing up credit card companies. Which is a fair approximation of what the Republican Party accomplished during its eight years in the White House.

So get it straight, Obamatards: Tea Baggers are not violent madmen. They just aspire to be like characters in movies who murder people and plant truck bombs in buildings in a coordinated effort to overthrow the existing power structure, with which they disagree.

There are some other ways the Republican Party is like Fight Club:

* They are both comically and deeply homoerotic.
* They are both always fighting among themselves for no reason.
* They are both fucking insane.
* They both have shitty endings.


http://gawker.com/5213273/the-first...y-stupid-things


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Apr-15-2009 18:46:

Any validity that this tea-bag movement may have had got thrown out the window when Gingrich & Armey became leaders of this "grassroots" movement.


Posted by Capitalizt on Apr-15-2009 19:24:

lol nice title


Posted by BARS-N-STARS on Apr-15-2009 19:48:

Just got back from the one in Madison Wisconsin. Great crowd turn out. You can tell all the Obama voters walking around with all that guilt hanging thier heads all low. Losers.


Posted by Shakka on Apr-15-2009 20:39:

Wow. Air America is on par with the onion with that report. No wonder nobody takes them seriously. I think this whole Tea Party movement is a bit overblown, but picking on those who pay the biggest percentage of the tax burden under the veil of safety that is a high approval rating for Obama isn't likely to pan out much better. If I were the left I'd take the high ground and ignore the protesters and not give them the attention they so desperately want. I can't help but feel like provoking the situation will only worsen the divisive situation we already have.

If it makes them feel better to look silly throwing some Lipton around to vent their frustration, let them do it and get on with it already. I fear that Atlas is shrugging during what is a very tenuous time for our country and we need better than name calling by anyone. It's only exacerbating the bitterness. Sorry, that little dykefest actually made me more sympathetic to the stupid tea party bullshit. I don't remember being in such a deep recession anytime in the 90's so I think this whole "Clinton level tax" argument is a red herring.

Hey, maybe if we just piss them off enough they'll just leave!

I'm ready for a new tax code. The current one only fuels class warfare.


Posted by Capitalizt on Apr-15-2009 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
I fear that Atlas is shrugging during what is a very tenuous time for our country
*high five!*

P.S. Looks like it's safe to say this is not really a grassroots anti-tax movement..but more of an anti-Obama protest organized by right wing media.. I do like the Santelli for President sign though.




Posted by The17sss on Apr-16-2009 05:21:

What's great about the tea parties is that this is a genuine grass roots movement... started BY the people FOR the people. It's not something started with the backing of non-government organizations like ACORN who somehow end up funding their bullshit with tax dollars; it's not a union organized and funded operation where the people are still getting paid while protesting; and it's a lot more than just people pissed about tax cuts or no tax cuts.

The only thing it has to do with "Republican leadership" is that it is a movement from the people because of the LACK OF Republican leadership; the people are saying, "we're tired of you, the GOP, failing to represent your constituents with the principles you used to stand for." Some like Newt and a few others want the exposure and to tie themselves to a grassroots movement of course, but have no illusion- this is real democracy in action by the people with no leader heading it, and no tax money funding it. The Left loves to protest and glorify the virtues of their government "hearing from the people", so why they are trying to excoriate this is beyond me.

ACORN was bussing in 40 people at a time to AIG execuatives' houses, followed by 50 media people... yet the NY Times and Washington Times made zero mention of this on their front page today (but rather, filled up space with Bo the dog stories). Side note: Cindy Sheehan's 12 person protest team outside Bush's house got over 100 stories in the NY Times. There were over 700 of these parties organized throughout the country by regular people who are sick and fucking tired of us spending our way to a 10+ trillion dollar debt in less than 10 years. When that bill comes due, who's gonna pay for it? How will it get paid without people becoming wards to the State?

Go ahead Democrats, and brush it all aside like it is some joke and all those people are "right wing crazies". If this is crazy, what do you call Code Pink, Cindy Sheehan, and situations like the UNC students protesting in Tom Tancredo's face and forcing him out of his speaking engagement (brought to you by the party who believes in tolerance and the right of free speech, a.k.a. the culture of intimidation). As far as I know, it's our constitutional right to speak out against the government without being labled as "extremists". Only now that Obama is president, are people over the top if they oppose his policies.

These protests are the expression of individual liberty and freedom and the demand for more of it, which the Obama administration, the pathetic media, the pundits, and the zombified Obama-bots detest.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Apr-16-2009 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
What's great about the tea parties is that this is a genuine grass roots movement... started BY the people FOR the people. It's not something started with the backing of non-government organizations like ACORN who somehow end up funding their bullshit with tax dollars; it's not a union organized and funded operation where the people are still getting paid while protesting; and it's a lot more than just people pissed about tax cuts or no tax cuts.

The only thing it has to do with "Republican leadership" is that it is a movement from the people because of the LACK OF Republican leadership; the people are saying, "we're tired of you, the GOP, failing to represent your constituents with the principles you used to stand for." Some like Newt and a few others want the exposure and to tie themselves to a grassroots movement of course, but have no illusion- this is real democracy in action by the people with no leader heading it, and no tax money funding it. The Left loves to protest and glorify the virtues of their government "hearing from the people", so why they are trying to excoriate this is beyond me.

ACORN was bussing in 40 people at a time to AIG execuatives' houses, followed by 50 media people... yet the NY Times and Washington Times made zero mention of this on their front page today (but rather, filled up space with Bo the dog stories). Side note: Cindy Sheehan's 12 person protest team outside Bush's house got over 100 stories in the NY Times. There were over 700 of these parties organized throughout the country by regular people who are sick and fucking tired of us spending our way to a 10+ trillion dollar debt in less than 10 years. When that bill comes due, who's gonna pay for it? How will it get paid without people becoming wards to the State?

Go ahead Democrats, and brush it all aside like it is some joke and all those people are "right wing crazies". If this is crazy, what do you call Code Pink, Cindy Sheehan, and situations like the UNC students protesting in Tom Tancredo's face and forcing him out of his speaking engagement (brought to you by the party who believes in tolerance and the right of free speech, a.k.a. the culture of intimidation). As far as I know, it's our constitutional right to speak out against the government without being labled as "extremists". Only now that Obama is president, are people over the top if they oppose his policies.

These protests are the expression of individual liberty and freedom and the demand for more of it, which the Obama administration, the pathetic media, the pundits, and the zombified Obama-bots detest.

Is this a joke? You might want to look up who funded all of this. There's really no difference between Sheehan/Code Pink and Armey/Shelby when it comes to their rationales on the economy...they all obviously living in a place far from reality.

It's rather sad that the Republicans bastardized what could have been an event that called for more fiscal responsibility. Instead it turned into a mockery based on "grassroots" efforts from major lobbying groups headed by former GOP leaders that turned it into a partisan travesty.

BTW, it's rather hypocritical how you can be so in support of these protests yet I can guarantee supported Bush protesters being barricaded 1/2 mile away during the 2004 RNC convention in NYC.


Posted by The17sss on Apr-16-2009 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt

P.S. Looks like it's safe to say this is not really a grassroots anti-tax movement..but more of an anti-Obama protest organized by right wing media.. I do like the Santelli for President sign though.


Are you kidding me? How could you of all people fall for that line? Are you really surprised to see a main stream media reporter naturally gravitating towards the guy holding a poster with a Hitler/Obama photoshop on it? Wow, who would have thought the media would single out the kookiest kids in the crowd in order to paint the whole movement as some sort of right wing militia, especially a couple days after the DHS's report on "right wing extremists" (which they admittedly have no proof of)?

It is absultely grass roots.... here is the truth about how it started, with links, and what you won't see reported on MSNBC. Tell me this isn't grass roots:

quote:
Feb. 15: Keli Carender, who blogs as �Liberty Belle� spread the word about a grass-roots protest she was organizing in Seattle to raise her voice against the passage of the trillion-dollar stimulus bill. It�s the first time she had ever jumped into political organizing of any kind. She is not affiliated with any �corporate lobbyist� or think tank or national taxpayers� organization. She�s a young conservative mom who blogs. Amazingly, she turned around the event in a few days all on her own by reaching out on the Internet, to her local talk station, and to anyone who would listen.
http://www.redistributingknowledge.blogspot.com/

Feb. 16: An energetic crowd of about 100 people came downtown to lambaste the Chicken Little process and the lard-up of the stimulus bill.
http://www.americantypo.com/2009/02...ll-protest.html

Word of the Seattle protest spread across the blogosphere. Readers suggested there should be a Denver protest on Feb. 17 to greet President Obama for the porkulus signing. Separately, the local chapter of Americans for Prosperity was already working to put something together on the fly. I met the head of the state AFP for the first time on the steps of the Capitol. No conspiracy here, tinfoil hatters. It was a union of like minds in an impromptu show of outrage against the legislation-without-deliberation process in Washington. Also there: Jon Caldara of the libertarian Independence Institute on one end of the spectrum and Tom Tancredo on the strict immigration enforcement end (hundreds of the protesters were mad about the absence of E-Verify standards for the stimulus funding).

On Feb. 18, 500 fed-up taxpayers showed up in Mesa, AZ to oppose President Obama�s campaign for massive expansions of the government mortgage entitlement and to mock what SC Gov. Mark Sanford rightly called savior-based economics. No top-down organization. Just the effort of local talk radio station KFYI. No Beltway GOP involvement. Zero national media coverage.
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135640

On Feb. 19, reader Amanda Grosserode e-mailed that she was organizing a tax revolt protest in Overland Park, KS the following weekend. More than 400 people showed up in freezing weather to protest Rep. Dennis Moore�s vote for the bill. Glenn Reynolds did the reporting the MSM didn�t do.
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/70323/

On Feb. 19, CNBC�s Rick Santelli issued his now-famous �Tea Party� call � prompted, many people forget, by Obama�s mortgage entitlement expansion plans.

Ob Feb 20th David Hogberg of Investor�s Business Daily was the first MSM reporter to cover the burgeoning tax revolt protests. You can read it here: http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAna...?id=469322&Ntt=

On Feb. 21, the grass-roots Internet group, Top Conservatives on Twitter, founded by Michael Patrick Leahy and powered by Rob Neppell, announced �simultaneous local tea parties around the country, beginning in Chicago, and including Washington DC, Fayetteville NC, San Diego CA, Omaha Nebraska, and dozens of other locations� on Feb. 27. Patrik Jonsson of the Christian Science Monitor was one of the rare national MSM reporters who attended one of the tea parties (Atlanta) and provided a fair and balanced look at protesters mad at both parties:
http://features.csmonitor.com/polit...-new-tea-party/

An Internet-based coalition spearheaded by TCOT, Smart Girl Politics, and the DontGoMovement formed to coordinate today�s Tax Day Tea Party. It is a totally unprecedented phenomenon that no Beltway GOP guru or elected leader can claim credit for. The grass-roots coalition has held open planning meetings on BlogTalkRadio every week and maintained the transparency that Washington abandoned during TARP/porkulus/budget process. They�ve spent weeks helping first-time political activists get connected, obtain permits, and learn the ropes.


Along the way, many different taxpayers� groups, talk show hosts, individuals, and websites have stepped up to the plate to pitch in.

And along the way, detractors have fumbled and bumbled over how to discredit the Tea Party organizers � first blaming a cabal tied to CNBC, then jeering at the amateurishness of the participants before crying �astroturf,� then claiming the events were �financed by Fox News� or (fill-in-the-blank) conservative conspiracy, then smearing the protesters as crazed gun nuts (FNC�s Bob Beckel) and racists (FNC�s Geraldo Rivera).

Wouldn�t it be refreshing if MSM coverage refrained from parroting all the lazy, groundless, uninformed canards and reported the simple truth?


Posted by The17sss on Apr-16-2009 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Is this a joke? You might want to look up who funded all of this. There's really no difference between Sheehan/Code Pink and Armey/Shelby when it comes to their rationales on the economy...they all obviously living in a place far from reality.

It's rather sad that the Republicans bastardized what could have been an event that called for more fiscal responsibility. Instead it turned into a mockery based on "grassroots" efforts from major lobbying groups headed by former GOP leaders that turned it into a partisan travesty.


People weren't calling for fiscal responsibility? Headed by former GOP leaders? Like who... Newt? He had nothing to do with the organization of this. He is one of many that saw a movement and wanted to attach themselves to it. Steele asked to speak at one and they told him no. Read the post above this one with the short history of the grassroots efforts. Mock it and try to diminish it all you want.. but you can't deny how sick the people are of what's going on, and it showed today. It wasn't a contrived fake outrage thing.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Apr-16-2009 06:10:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
People weren't calling for fiscal responsibility? Headed by former GOP leaders? Like who... Newt? He had nothing to do with the organization of this. He is one of many that saw a movement and wanted to attach themselves to it. Steele asked to speak at one and they told him no. Read the post above this one with the short history of the grassroots efforts. Mock it and try to diminish it all you want.. but you can't deny how sick the people are of what's going on, and it showed today. It wasn't a contrived fake outrage thing.

People talked about fiscal responsibility, but no one listened because of who was preaching about it. People like Dick Armey & Newt completely jumped on a bandwagon that had already been created and tried to distort it to make it seem like they've agreed all along.?
And of course Steele wasn't a keynote. He's been the most worthless example of a party leader that I've recalled. I mean, a big chunk of the party doesn't respect him for the most obvious reason, then he goes and takes on Limbaugh and the talk show media. Would you want to associate yourself who seems that intent on killing his political career.


Posted by Capitalizt on Apr-16-2009 08:41:

As much as I'd like to see a real revolutionary movement, this isn't it. 17ss, look at the fox news video I posted above.. They were doing all the could in the days leading up to pump this event..and the same thing was happening on a few talk radio stations I flipped on recently (Medved, Gallagher, etc) I don't deny there is some grassroots anger at government in general, but honestly..where were these people when Bush was bankrupting us over the past 8 years..growing non defense spending 3X faster than Bill Clinton and doubling the national debt? It was Bush who started the ball rolling on these bailouts and stimulus plans. Why is this populist "grassroots" movement only showing up now when the GOP is completely out of power?


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Apr-16-2009 11:44:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss

And along the way, detractors have fumbled and bumbled over how to discredit the Tea Party organizers � first blaming a cabal tied to CNBC, then jeering at the amateurishness of the participants before crying �astroturf,� then claiming the events were �financed by Fox News� or (fill-in-the-blank) conservative conspiracy, then smearing the protesters as crazed gun nuts (FNC�s Bob Beckel) and racists (FNC�s Geraldo Rivera).

Wouldn�t it be refreshing if MSM coverage refrained from parroting all the lazy, groundless, uninformed canards and reported the simple truth? [/I][/B]


Your examples are both from Fox News... why am I not surprised that someone finds their reporting inaccurate?

And for God's sake, keep comparing these loons to Code Pink all you want. They're both crazies, and really f'ing annoying.


Posted by atbell on Apr-16-2009 13:23:

'grassroots', 'organic', 'buzz word' buzz word buzz word.

The fact that fox was anouncing where the protests would be held in advance of them happening means it's not grass roots, it is supported by fox 'news'.

The news isn't a pre-emptive type of thing, you report on things that have happened, not on things that are going to happen.

I've never really been a fan of either grassroots or organic terminology but at least when the left used them it was natural for them. The fox reports using the words sound just plain lame.


Posted by Shakka on Apr-16-2009 13:45:

quote:
Originally posted by atbell
The news isn't a pre-emptive type of thing, you report on things that have happened, not on things that are going to happen.


So what were reporters who camped out in front of Bernie Madoff's apartment for 3 months prior to his arraignment doing? What do you call weather reporters who's job is to forecast events before they happen? They're not necessarily manufacturing the weather patterns. Fox covered an event that they knew was going to happen because it's been being talked about and planned for months.


Posted by BARS-N-STARS on Apr-16-2009 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
but honestly..where were these people when Bush was bankrupting us over the past 8 years..growing non defense spending 3X faster than Bill Clinton and doubling the national debt? It was Bush who started the ball rolling on these bailouts and stimulus plans. Why is this populist "grassroots" movement only showing up now when the GOP is completely out of power?


They were everywhere. Now Obama is going to triple it and does that make it ok since Clinton and Bush did it too? Obama is a hypocrite and thanks for clearing that up. Remember Obama was screaming "CHANGE".


Posted by Shakka on Apr-16-2009 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
It was Bush who started the ball rolling on these bailouts and stimulus plans. Why is this populist "grassroots" movement only showing up now when the GOP is completely out of power?


I think it was more Bernanke and Paulson talking in Bush's ear. As far as the second point, it's a fair point for sure. Here was an article in the AJC this morning.

quote:
Thousands turn out for tax protest at Capitol

By AARON GOULD SHEININ, KENT A. MILES

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Thousands of tax protesters streamed Wednesday to state government�s front lawn, creating a sign-waving, anthem-shouting mass as darkness fell.

The Atlanta �Tea Party� at the Georgia Capitol stretched for blocks in protest of federal spending and the Obama Administration�s efforts to stimulate the economy.

�We stand here tonight seeing clearly what has been done and what we must do,� state Rep. Tom Graves (R-Ranger), said.

Graves quoted a favorite of the crowd, the late former President Ronald Reagan, who warned �a government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us � blinds us to how it can harm us.�

The Atlanta rally was one of 20 around the state and more than 300 around the country. Billed as grass-roots protests, critics � especially Democrats � have labeled the gatherings as frauds created by Republican advocacy groups with the backing of deep-pocketed lobbyists and Fox News.

An expected counterprotest at the Capitol never seemed to materialize. Five state troopers stood watch along a stretch of Courtland Street where the counterprotest was expected.

Meanwhile, at the Capitol itself, protesters � who model themselves after the Revolutionary-era Boston Tea Party � decried a federal government they say has lost touch.

Speaker after speaker complained about the bailouts of banks, automakers, mortgage lenders and anyone they deemed responsible for the current economic crisis. Fox News erected a massive set where conservative personality Sean Hannity planned to broadcast live.

Former U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas) spoke. His organization, Freedom Works, is a primary organizer of many of the tea parties around the nation. Armey�s group, along with conservative groups Americans for Prosperity and American Solutions for Winning the Future, founded by former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), helped organize the events. Gingrich was scheduled to speak at the New York City tea party. American Solutions president and CEO Dave Ryan spoke here.

Armey planned to address the concerns critics have raised over who was in charge of the events.

�I plan to tell everybody they need to make it clear it�s their gathering,� Armey said before the rally, as he stood at the corner of Martin Luther King Drive and Courtland Street. �It�s not organized by big shots in Washington.�

And there were plenty of non-big shots in the crowd.

Amber Anneshensley and her brother, Michael Obetz, both 15 and from Suwanee, held signs to support the cause. Michael�s said, �Honk if we pay your mortgage.�

Their mother, Paula Lanier, said she brought her children to the rally to �teach them to speak up for what they believe in.�

�I don�t like how government is spending my money, raising my taxes to give it to people who let their own businesses fail.�

Jason Pye of Covington, the legislative director for the Georgia Libertarian Party, had mixed emotions about the rally. He and his fellow Libertarians have long supported the ideals exhorted Wednesday: less government, free markets and a Darwinian-approach to private business.

Many of those speaking, he said, haven�t always protected those ideals.

�I�m happy people are getting together,� he said. �But the movement has been co-opted by Republicans who are trying to regain their identity and want to forget George W. Bush existed. Libertarians aren�t forgetting.�


Earlier Wednesday at a tea party in Marietta, Ty Hunter was among a festive rally crowd of several hundred at the Marietta Square.

�When I was a boy, things were so much simpler. Government was not so much a part of our life, now it�s in every thing we do,� Hunter said. �It�s like we�re losing our liberty.�

Mingling with the crowd were people in Revolutionary War-era costumes. At the start, �Paul Revere� rode in to the square on his horse to warn the people of outrageous taxation.

Beth Pollard of Smyrna came to the rally wearing a hat adorned with tea bags.

�It�s my first time expressing my feelings about what is happening in Washington,� Pollard said. �I�m glad to live in a country where freedom is appreciated.�

In Atlanta, local conservative pundit and author Phil Kent warned the crowd to be wary.

�Throughout history, oppressors have tried to control people,� he said. That control, he said, has come from limiting free speech and the right to self-defense and through �servitude with high taxes.�

�We can�t have that happen here!� he said, to applause.


Posted by LazFX on Apr-16-2009 15:39:







and this one as a born & bred Texan makes me cry. Why are my people so back wards?? Why so ignorant?? Fuck it. I will move the fuck on to Canada.


What it boils down to is that very high % of these people are going to benefit from BO's plan. The increase that will come will not affect these people. So what does it really boil down to? What is the shared spark between all of these people? Why is it that there is so much hate & fear in their words, voice and eyes?

this is getting interesting.....

quote:
However, it's important not to confuse fascism as a movement on the rise with fascism as a power. If can only identify fascism in its mature form-the goose-stepping brownshirts, the full-fledged use of violence and intimidation tactics, the mass rallies-then it will be far too late to stop it. Fascism arose as a much more atomized phenomenon, at first mostly in rural areas, then it spread to the cities; and if we look at those origins, it becomes clear that similar forms already exist in America.


Posted by Renegade on Apr-16-2009 15:41:






Wow, Republicans really do have the emotional maturity of children.


Posted by Renegade on Apr-16-2009 15:56:

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
What it boils down to is that very high % of these people are going to benefit from BO's plan. The increase that will come will not affect these people. So what does it really boil down to? What is the shared spark between all of these people? Why is it that there is so much hate & fear in their words, voice and eyes?


Remember that these people live in a self-imposed vacuum where things like reason and evidence just do not get the chance to breathe. The fact that a 3% hike on the top tax-bracket does not constitute socialism or that the declining marginal utility of income provides a sound economic (and moral!) argument for increasing the burden of taxation of the rich never reaches these people. For them, politics is nothing more than a sport where the aim is to beat the other team: Democrats = Socialism, therefore - as fans of capitalism - the Democrats must be opposed. At no point does reason enter into this diatribe, much less any semblence of a viable, competing policy. No, the aim here is to simply jeer everything you opponent does, because they are your opponents and that's just what you do to opponents. The more competent your opponent is - or the more they marginalise you - the more hysterical and ludicrous the form your opposition must take.

And here we are.


Posted by BARS-N-STARS on Apr-16-2009 15:58:

Typical Keith Olberdouche. He wasnt there and he is trying make Neil look like a liar and he "was" there. Too funny. So Keith how many people were there?


Posted by Renegade on Apr-16-2009 16:10:





quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Wow, Republicans really do have the emotional maturity of children.


EDIT: Holy shit:

quote:
Syracuse, NY -- Joanne Wilder has never protested anything in public before. She's never boxed with City Hall, let alone Washington.

"I've been a quiet little person my whole life," she said.

But today in downtown Syracuse, the 60-year-old great-grandmother will lead a Tax Day Tea Party protest against the spending policies of the Obama administration and Congress.

[...]

After a lifetime of working, paying taxes and raising three children on her own, Wilder is struggling.

She said she retired on disability from M&T Bank three years ago after undergoing knee replacement and back surgeries. She lives on her Social Security and disability benefits. Last year, she petitioned the bankruptcy court for protection from creditors.

She said she did not have to pay federal income taxes last year because her income was too low.

"I don't want to see this country turn into a welfare, nanny state, where we stand in line for groceries, and we're in welfare lines, and in socialized medicine lines," Wilder said.


http://www.syracuse.com/news/index....uld_draw_c.html


Posted by LazFX on Apr-16-2009 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS
Typical Keith Olberdouche. He wasnt there and he is trying make Neil look like a liar and he "was" there. Too funny. So Keith how many people were there?

So I just did not hear Cavuto just say there were 2 to 3 times as the expected 5000 when he did not have an actual count, even though he himself estimated 5000??


fuck man..... you fucking people....


Posted by Shakka on Apr-16-2009 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade





Wow, Republicans really do have the emotional maturity of children.


That's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black given how mature and morally superior the other side acted. Go ahead, keep ridiculing the people that carry the largest percent of the burden.

quote:

Cable Anchors, Guests Use Tea Parties as Platform for Frat House Humor
Cable anchors and guests covered the anti-tax tea party protests by cracking a litany of barely concealed sexual references.

FOXNews.com

Thursday, April 16, 2009

For thousands of Americans, Tax Day was a moment to protest what they see as bloated budgets and a pile of debt being passed on to their children.

For CNN, MSNBC and other media outlets, it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to use the word "teabagging" in a sentence.

Teabagging, for those who don't live in a frat house, refers to a sexual act involving part of the male genitalia and a second person's face or mouth.

So when the anti-tax "tea party" protests were held Wednesday across the country, cable anchors and guests -- who for weeks had all but ignored the story -- covered the protests by cracking a litany of barely concealed sexual references.

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper interspersed "teabagging" references with analyst David Gergen's more staid commentary on how Republicans are still "searching for their voice."

"It's hard to talk when you're teabagging," Cooper explained. Gergen laughed, but Cooper kept a straight face.

MSNBC's David Shuster weaved a tapestry of "Animal House" humor Monday as he filled in for Countdown host Keith Olbermann.

The protests, he explained, amount to "Teabagging day for the right wing and they are going nuts for it."

He described the parties as simultaneously "full-throated" and "toothless," and continued: "They want to give President Obama a strong tongue-lashing and lick government spending." Shuster also noted how the protesters "whipped out" the demonstrations this past weekend.

Tea Party participants were not amused. The events were held in dozens of cities across the country, and while some demonstrators were criticized for wielding off-topic and sometimes insensitive protest signs, most took to the streets to speak out against government spending.

Brent Bozell, president of the conservative Media Research Center, said the media coverage was "insulting," reacting specifically to CNN reporter Susan Roesgen's combative interviews with Illinois demonstrators in which she declared that the protests were "anti-CNN" and supported by FOX News. She left the teabagging jokes to her colleagues, though.

"I've never seen anything like it," Bozell said. "The oral sex jokes on (CNN) and particularly MSNBC on teabagging ... they had them by the dozens. That's how insulting they were toward people who believe they're being taxed too highly."

Max Pappas, public policy vice president at FreedomWorks -- a small-government group which promoted the tea parties -- said it's a "shame" media outlets cracked jokes at a genuine "grassroots uprising."

"I think what that reveals is how worried they are that this might actually be something serious. You make fun of things you're afraid of, I'd say," Pappas said.

If anyone thinks the orally charged remarks on mainstream cable were just a coincidence, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow's segments over the past week with guest, Air America's Ana Marie Cox, would dissolve all doubt. Their on-air gymnastics, dancing around the double entendre of the week, looked like live-action Beavis and Butthead.

By one count, the two of them used the word "teabag" more than 50 times on one show. And on Monday, Cox even let the viewers in on their joke -- referencing Urbandictionary.com, a site which offers a number of colorful definitions for the term "teabagging."

"Well, there is a lot of love in teabagging," Cox said. "It is curious, though, as you point out, they do not use the verb 'teabag.' It might be because they're less enthusiastic about teabagging than some of the more corporate conservatives who seem to have taken to it quite easily."

Jenny Beth Martin, a Republican activist who helped organize one protest in Atlanta, said she's not too worried about the protests being dismissed by some media outlets. She estimated 750,000 people attended more than 800 protests in all 50 states, and that at the very least the local media and community newspapers documented it.

"Our message definitely got out where it needed to get," she said.


Pages (3): [1] 2 3 »

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.