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how can they increase your limit when you don't ask for it?

it's fucking bullshit.

i'm irresponsible. judging by my charges i think they can figure that out too.

this should be illegal.

/goes on ebay

edit: oh never mind. u are in canaukistan. you're fucked then mate. Move to US. here they they encourage borrowing and not paying (at least according to the latest trends)

http://www.creditmagic.org/repair/pay-for-delete.html

The credit cards are about to get a heavy dose of government regulation in the interest of consumer protection. All hope may not be lost.

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Originally posted by Krypton The credit cards are about to get a heavy dose of government regulation in the interest of consumer protection. All hope may not be lost.

ain't he in Can'O'duh?

See pkc? People do need protection from themselves.

They're obviously idiots. I wouldn't give you shit for credit.

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Originally posted by Domesticated See pkc? People do need protection from themselves.

hahahaha. which is why in australia a bank must ask you before increasing your limit. bastard bank try it on with me every few months.

i hope you enjoyed the $20 billion transport infrastructure component of the budget mate

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN hahahaha. which is why in australia a bank must ask you before increasing your limit. bastard bank try it on with me every few months. i hope you enjoyed the $20 billion transport infrastructure component of the budget mate

Can we trade governments?

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Originally posted by Krypton Can we trade governments?

you'd need to upgrade your system to the parliamentary model.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you'd need to upgrade your system to the parliamentary model.

You saying we need a tech 2 or tech 3 government? We'v already upgraded our commander.

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Originally posted by Krypton You saying we need a tech 2 or tech 3 government?

Meh, I don't mind. My Mastercard has upped my limit like 12 times (ok, maybe 4-5), but I am really good with it, so it's no problem.

In fact, I like having more available to me in the event that I may need it for something at some time.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN

Is that game still prone to rushes? I liked building huge defense networks and bases and then waging massive battles...

Any good mods?

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Is that game still prone to rushes? I liked building huge defense networks and bases and then waging massive battles...

if you wanna turtle you need to be able to hold half the map or your opponent will simply roll over you. if you want a turtle-fest, the original supreme commander is what you're after. forged alliance is a completely different beast (and far superior).

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Any good mods?

i hear there are, but i dont play with mods.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Is that game still prone to rushes? I liked building huge defense networks and bases and then waging massive battles... Any good mods?

turtle! I roll over turtles.

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Originally posted by Krypton Can we trade governments?

Yeah right!

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,2757...5012587,00.html

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Originally posted by Domesticated Yeah right! http://www.news.com.au/story/0,2757...5012587,00.html

oh fuck off with that bullshit. governments should run deficits during periods of extreme economic contraction. the fact that govt revenue dropped by over $200 billion and the deficit is only $56b shows things could have been way worse, and your liberal cocksuckers are throwing around terms like "surplus" or "hoover" as because they really want the country to fall into a long recession with prolonged unemployment. yippee!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh fuck off with that bullshit. governments should run deficits during periods of extreme economic contraction. the fact that govt revenue dropped by over $200 billion and the deficit is only $56b shows things could have been way worse, and your liberal cocksuckers are throwing around terms like "surplus" or "hoover" as because they really want the country to fall into a long recession with prolonged unemployment. yippee!

a) We're not even in an extreme economic contraction yet. There is far worse to come.

b) Why should governments run deficits during recessions?

c) This happens every time a Labor government takes power, regardless of recession fears. They put the state/country into massive debt and then laugh it up when the Liberal government gets back into power and gets demonised for cutting funding and raising taxes (i.e reversing fuck ups and recovering money that should never have been spent in the first place).

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Originally posted by Domesticated a) We're not even in an extreme economic contraction yet. There is far worse to come.

the government is in-line with suggestions by the IMF to what we should be doing within the context of the global slowdown.

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Originally posted by Domesticated b) Why should governments run deficits during recessions?

in a situation like the world is in today, a government should step in to pick up the slack in the economy to prevent too much contraction. its well established sound economic policy.

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Originally posted by Domesticated c) This happens every time a Labor government takes power, regardless of recession fears. They put the state/country into massive debt and then laugh it up when the Liberal government gets back into power and gets demonised for cutting funding and raising taxes (i.e reversing fuck ups and recovering money that should never have been spent in the first place).

sorry, but you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. look at the state of the economy during the fraser years when howard was treasurer.

wiki

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Fraser's negotiations with the ACTU saw him lose control of a wages explosion in 1982 just as the mining boom had ended. The economic crises of the early 1980s brought Howard into conflict with the economically conservative Fraser. As the economy headed towards the worst recession since the 1930s, Keynesian Fraser pushed an expansionary fiscal position much to Howard's and Treasury's horror. With his authority as treasurer being flouted, Howard considered resigning in July 1982, but, after discussions with his wife and senior advisor John Hewson (Liberal Party leader himself from 1990 to 1994), he decided to "tough it out".[26] The 1982 wages explosion�wages rose 16 per cent across the country�resulted in stagflation; unemployment touched double-digits and inflation peaked at 12.5% (official interest rates peaked at 21%).

the keating government was the single-biggest liberalising government in the history of our country. the prosperity of the howard years is due in part, to the keating-hawke reforms at freeing up the nation's economy. the country was well on the way to economic recovery by the time howard won the election.

the keating government handed on an economy with relatively similar statistics, except they had freed the economic structures of the nation which would deliver growth in the years to come.

the howard government's reeling in of the keating era deficit was certainly good policy and all credit to them. but that's easier to do in a growing economy due to rapidly growing investments in things like banking, and a lot of people suffered hard times due to significant cuts in government spending.





if you actually opened your other eye and listened to what the economists of australia are saying about the latest budget, its a mixed bag. however, the central issue is whether the 4.4% growth predicted by the same officials that helped costello prepare his budgets, is too optimistic for the re-paying of the deficit as outlined in labor's plan.

there is nothing wrong with running temporary deficits when times call for it. the fear-mongering by the impotent opposition is nothing but bullshit. for turnbull to say the liberals could deliver a decent budget with a surplus is pure fantasy in current global conditions. there is a reason virtually every government will be running deficits for the forseeable future, and its not because everyone wants to frolic in heaps of debt.

To be honest I think a deficit right now is needed but I disagree that it should be this large. It just isn't sustainable enough and will take decades to rebuild. I'm hoping that it gets revised.

To stay OT, VISA is awesome. AMEX and Mastercard can both go die in a fire.

to put things in perspective, the US' deficit as a percentage of GDP in october 2008, was 38%. http://www.economist.com/world/unit...ory_id=12484798

im sure its gone up by even more since then.

australia is at a little over 5% (with this budget).

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Originally posted by Fledz To be honest I think a deficit right now is needed but I disagree that it should be this large. It just isn't sustainable enough and will take decades to rebuild. I'm hoping that it gets revised.

there's 2 big things i disagree with:

why must we spend $25 billion dollars on our military?

why are we carrying out tax cuts if we're getting such a deficit?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN to put things in perspective, the US' deficit as a percentage of GDP in october 2008, was 38%. http://www.economist.com/world/unit...ory_id=12484798 im sure its gone up by even more since then. australia is at a little over 5% (with this budget).

Not a valid argument. The US of Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii when it comes to money is an absolute joke. They go into trillions of dollars of debt, fuck up the entire fucking world and then expect people to forgive and forget. Not gonna happen. Comparing anything to Americas shit system is a joke and you should know better.

Big brother America is an idiot and thankfully most countries are starting to see that we don't need to rely on their shitty economic policies.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN there's 2 big things i disagree with: why must we spend $25 billion dollars on our military? why are we carrying out tax cuts if we're getting such a deficit?

1. In case China attacks us?

2. Stimulating the economy?

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Originally posted by Fledz Not a valid argument. The US of Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii when it comes to money is an absolute joke. They go into trillions of dollars of debt, fuck up the entire fucking world and then expect people to forgive and forget. Not gonna happen. Comparing anything to Americas shit system is a joke and you should know better.

the US of A is another rich liberal democratic nation. i can compare them all i want! but, considering the nonsense rhetoric from the opposition, i wanted to put things into perspective about just how well off we are. like i said, given the massive hole the recession has put in our coffers, $56B isn't too bad. im looking forward to the opposition's response and where they're going to trim in order to get a surplus

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Originally posted by Fledz 2. Stimulating the economy?

well, stats show that government stimulus has a greater impact on GDP than tax cuts, so given the deficit is so large, im wondering if this is a good move.

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