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Is reason a bad program?

I started on reason and had loads of fun and to be honest didnt really know what I was doing. When I made some producer friends they all convinced me reason was a toy and to switch so i got cubase and I do love cubase but i went on my girls computer yesterday and she has reason installed and I thought it was a good program.

now that I know more and can use cubase to master things im thinking of buying reason 4 it seems worth it to me and I love the subtractor.

Any thoughts is the sound quality bad etc like I have heard?

It's fine. It all depends on how you use it. Reason has its obvious faults and its obvious advantages. If you're into buying additional software and sounds, Reason is awesome for it. Again, it's all about personal taste. Stop listening to what other people say and go with what makes you feel comfortable. Nobody is going to be able to tell what DAW you used to make a track if you're good at what you're doing. So get comfortable and get to work.

Thanks thats how i feel tbh was just wondering also i remember a comparison that i did maybe someone can explain it to me.

I took a vengeance Kick sample and loaded it into cubase as you would expect large compressed waveform.

I took the same kick and loaded it into redrum which was re-wired to cubase and did a mixdown.

The two waveform were differnt the reason mixdown was a smaller kick and obv quieter. Now i was a newb back then but I know that i didnt change the kick in redrum like turn vol down or anything.

is there some quality loss or was it something I did like maybe a velocity setting in redrum?

yeah i agree with steve on this because making good tracks can be hard work.

#if i see or hear a track made on a different daw witch i like i always think shit man fl sucks.

you can get a pro track out of reason just means you may have to work that bit harder.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley If you're into buying additional software and sounds, Reason is awesome for it.

Reason is a closed environment....so you cant add software to it....you can however rewire reason to another daw and use it as a plugin.

Reason is a great tool for production. Like all production tools it has strengths and weaknesses. Learn to use it well and it will be an asset to you

Reason is not a weak program at all, if you haven't already DL Trance Addicts Unite 2-4 many tracks on there were made from producers with Reason. EG: OrgaNik, Echano (and subsequently Al Azar), Bren-F just off the top of my head.

I haven't tried it myself but I know it's completely possible to make music with it.

Add Daniel Kandi to that list

yes i am looking at it to rewire into cubase as my main daw just like reasons workflow and synths and those combinators!

the combinator is one of the the coolest ideas in music production. I wish many other daws would create something similar

I use Reason rewired into Live 7 in combination with Sylenth and Omnisphere. Whilst it is true that the Subtractor, Maelstrom or Thor(even when combined, generally, IMO) cannot hold up to those VSTs in terms of sonic 'weight' (if you want a massive sounding lead) it has more than enough plusses for me to use it in every production:

1 I use Redrum and Rex players rewired for ALL of my drums (I make breaks and trance mainly).

2 I often use it for basslines (Sub is very good for this).

3 The routing possibilities make it brilliant for mangling sounds and fx, and the reverb unit is great.

4 It is VERY CPU friendly and stable.

5 You can get some very nice sounds out of it.

Anyone who says it is a toy is ignorant!

reason is up there with the big boys hands down...if people say "it sounds like shit", they don't know what they're talking about.
Yes, reason is a closed DAW. Is that a downfall, yes very much so.
But a. you can do the same things you just have to find a back road to get there. or b. rewire when needed.
The workflow in reason is flawless, the stability is great, cpu is very minimal. I don't use synths as much as say a "trance" producer so I could see reasons synths being weaker in comparison for sure.
But for the music I produce I'm doing totally fine
check some stuff out if you like:

SOUNDCLOUD LINK

or

MYSPACE LINK

I've only had limited experience with Reason, but I don't get why anyone would say that it's a "toy". It's actually a pretty cool concept and, as mentioned, has many great features (yeah, the Combinator concept is excellent!).

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Originally posted by justjabbin Reason is a closed environment....so you cant add software to it....you can however rewire reason to another daw and use it as a plugin. Reason is a great tool for production. Like all production tools it has strengths and weaknesses. Learn to use it well and it will be an asset to you

I was talking about the exclusive Reason stuff put out. They have nice refills and things that can only be found in the program and they continue to add them (slowly but surely)

this guy posted his track in producers promo forum and it was made in reason


http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...1&forumid=74&s=

If u have a Reason 3 license, you should buy the Record for Reason product at 150USD, it includes Reason 4 upgrade and Record! Fucking Cheap. Reason is a killer prog and with Rewire its awesome. Hopefully They will merge Reason and Record in the Future to make an uber-app. I just got record and it seems to be a cool prog so far. Though the license tech is lame, see my other thread
BTW to this day I made all my tracks in Reason.

NSFW:

One Night Stand - Blarsa

That was made in Reason and it sounds cool albeit extremely vulgar.

no

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Originally posted by floyd741 NSFW: One Night Stand - Blarsa That was made in Reason and it sounds cool albeit extremely vulgar.

Vulgar but funny as hell!

Good track too.


In General,
Reason is a really good tool, the only thing I remember being a bit weak on it is the compressor, never really felt it could deliver what some of the other units out there can.

But the fact that you can rewire it is just awesome.

Cheers
Nem

i dont like reason myself but ive heard it do amazing things.

reason is the worst daw.


just kidding i use it and recommend it to all.

I used Reason up untill 3.0 came out with the combinator and they changed the sequencer.

The sequencer was ALREADY terrible imo, and then they actually managed to make it even less convenient to use. I just hate the piano roll and doing any sequencing with it.

As far as sound quality, don't ask why.

But all my tracks on Reason use to sound low or light on bass. When I switched to FL I noticed I didn't have that problem anymore. Plus the workflow in Reason is like a turtle compared to some other programs.

But even still, Reason is just so much fun to use. Love its synths.

Reason is a good prog to use. If it works for you use it. I use it, but it has its pro's and con's like any other.

Sound quality there is a dip in volume or something. Ive done that test with other DAW's and many others have, I've read on forums. I dont know why but reason does change the sound. It really is annoying, as you have to work at getting it back.

I would love to know why.

the new mixer in Record seems to fix up some of the audiolimitations in Reason. well worth the upgrade, the sound is more in your face now. Ypu can open up old Reason projects without any problems at all. And now u can use hardware synths and efex too.

Cool synths and effects, poor arrangement interface and piano roll, you cant adjust the size of the windows nor make your own key commands.

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Originally posted by Subtle Cool synths and effects, poor arrangement interface and piano roll, you cant adjust the size of the windows nor make your own key commands.

Gotta disagree here. I LOVE the piano roll and arrangement interface in Reason (I take it you have maximised it to fill the screen?) I can work quicker there than any other DAW. In fact I vastly prefer it to the piano roll in Ableton Live 7 which I rewire Reason into. I so love the workflow in Reason that if it supported VSTs I would dump Live in an instant. Horses for courses I suppose.

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