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Producer and DJ egos: a thought experiment
Say that you are an established producer and DJ who has made releases that have sold thousands of copies. You are regularly invited to do gigs around the world. You have had residencies at clubs. And you own a label that puts out both physical (vinyl) and digital releases.
One day you have a break in your busy schedule, so you decide to check out a message board you have heard about. On there, you find a thread in which a few people are bashing one of your tracks or sets. You think the bashing is unmerited. What do you do?
(a) Ignore it. Who really cares, right?
(b) Explain or argue why you think the basher is wrong, misinformed, or whatever.
(c) Brag about how much money you make and call the basher a loser mp3 kiddie.
(d) Say "ur just jealuouse!11!!1 what have u ever done??!!?"
(e) Other (explain).
I'd go for B if it were unnecessary bashing, but most of the time I'd probably choose A. I don't tend to get caught up on the whole forum drama thing.
(e) I would ask them to be constructive in their criticism (if they arent being already). Criticism is fine, and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
This is like those job application forms
So you want a job at wallmart
Answer these
A difficult customer has a complaint you?
a) Politely deal with there complaint while smiling at all times
b) Flip them off
c) Explain that you dont give a #�$@ and show them the door
d) Expose yourself
your late for your shift do you?
a) Apoligise and offer to catch up whislt explaining the reasons to your supervisor
b) Come in strapped and shoot the place up
c) Urinate on a customer
d) Tell your supervisor you will torch the place if he doesn't shut his godamn mouth
Lol
My answer would be a why would you care if a couple of guys disliked your music half way around the world as long as you were enjoying it.
It would depend on the nature of the comments, but either A or B. If it's just juvenile ranting or people expressing their opinion that my music sucks, that's no problem with me. As already stated, people will talk s*#t and they are entitled to their opinions and I respect that. But, if the thread is full of misinformation regarding me or my music, then I'd probably take the time to correct that.
Case in point: a few months ago I posted a song on another forum and someone essentially accused me of borrowing the chord progression from another song (a song which I am very familiar with, having performed it in many bands in my younger days). It wasn't a big deal and one could sorta hear the similarities, but the two songs were clearly using different progressions and in different keys, etc. Well, knowing that other uninformed people were going to see that thread and assume that he was right, even though he clearly wasn't, I replied with a rather lengthy response spelling out the differences in the chord progression, melodies, etc. just to set the record straight. I just don't want to run the risk of having people on a forum that I rarely visit think of me as the guy who steals other people's songs, based on one person's misinformed post.
e) Turn the cpu off and go have sex with the girl I hooked up with at my last gig (again).
The answer is
Z) a DJ/Producers response to should be a detailed thread about forum trolls and souless nolifers whose day to day activities seem to revolve around bashing artists,labels, and music. An analysis, psychology and sociology experiment, maybe some philosophy, depending on the artist conducting such a thread.
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| Originally posted by G-Con e) Turn the cpu off and go have sex with the girl I hooked up with at my last gig (again). |
I'd never expect 'constructive critiscism', only truthful. If you seek constructive feedback, to my mind this compells critics to trad carefully and pull thier punches.
In the end for me what counts are consumption decisions which I would broadly correlate with 100& brutaly honest critiques.
I've been on the end of harsh critics, but it merely made me up my game after feeling momentarily slaughtered
There's always haters everywhere, though they tend to present the lesser percent of, let's say, target audience, so I'd generally go with the rule of not arguing with a retard, since he'll drag you to his level and beat you with experience.
you cant please everybody
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| Originally posted by Tarpex the rule of not arguing with a retard, since he'll drag you to his level and beat you with experience. |
If they're being constructive or at least flaming me for things that are true then i'd do nothing. If they are putting in a bunch of bs and attempting to tarnish my name and image i'd jump right in and shove it right back at them.
It goes with the territory. This is the digital age; people will have to defend themselves more because people are pussies and feel safe saying anything they want behind their ip and mac addresses.
I would choose A. I've developed thick skin from reading promo pool feedback, usually in the form of an Excel spreadsheet, given to me by the labels that have released my music. The first one I ever got, there were over 70 ratings, many harsh, and it really stung to read it. I quickly realized you can't please everyone and to just focus on doing what you love while trying to not get caught up in the negativity.
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| Originally posted by G-Con e) Turn the cpu off and go have sex with the girl I hooked up with at my last gig (again). |
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| Originally posted by Sonic_c Can I sig this, this is very good. |
I've been here for almost 8 years now.
Got bashed a few times. I think it's funny. Period. You can't please everyone at the same time.
People could bash you as much as they can, after all, as long as you're standing right in your shoes, there's no good reason not to come here and have a talk with good people at times. Even when they bash you. Because it doesn't take them too long to realize it's just fun.
People can be mad, jealous, whatever. None of your business.
I wish many others came here, that'd open their eyes at least.
But some don't want a reality check. :-D
The thing i like about the bashing here is the people that bash you on one track give you props on the next so it just goes to show its honest and not motivated by forum politics.
You can only please some of the people some of the time. I'd say ignore it otherwise you'd spend half your life on the net arguing with people you'll never meet.
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| Originally posted by G-Con e) Turn the cpu off and go have sex with the girl I hooked up with at my last gig (again). |
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| Originally posted by Lolo I've been here for almost 8 years now. Got bashed a few times. I think it's funny. Period. You can't please everyone at the same time. People could bash you as much as they can, after all, as long as you're standing right in your shoes, there's no good reason not to come here and have a talk with good people at times. Even when they bash you. Because it doesn't take them too long to realize it's just fun. People can be mad, jealous, whatever. None of your business. I wish many others came here, that'd open their eyes at least. But some don't want a reality check. :-D |
f) Post a high-resolution photo of my own ass.
I go with digi haha that would scare em off
If it's constructive I rekon it's alrite but if there just being typicals Internet nobs
I'd probably say something lol get my foot right up in there! 
haha
B or A, depending on how i was feeling and how stupid the people were being i think..
if they're clearly complete idiots there'd be no point, if they were being stupid but kind of correct i would probably ask for something more constructive then TRY to beat them into submission just for funsies... 
also magnus is quite correct, it just depends on if i can be bothered arguing or not that day
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| Originally posted by Magnus I would choose A. I've developed thick skin from reading promo pool feedback, usually in the form of an Excel spreadsheet, given to me by the labels that have released my music. The first one I ever got, there were over 70 ratings, many harsh, and it really stung to read it. I quickly realized you can't please everyone and to just focus on doing what you love while trying to not get caught up in the negativity. |
i think people here just like to have a good chat about edm i know i do
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