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Posted by Shakka on Oct-02-2009 15:29:

Olympics

Sorry Obama, Chicago won't be hosting the 2016 Olympics. Eliminated in the first round. I blame George Bush.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-02-2009 15:36:

I blame poor infrastructure investment.. the El would have collapsed.


Posted by Shakka on Oct-02-2009 17:02:

Rah rah Rio.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Oct-02-2009 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Rah rah Rio.


2014 world cup then 2016 olympics. i wonder how important it was to the committee that Rio would be upgrading it's infrastructure for the world cup 2 years before.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-02-2009 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
2014 world cup then 2016 olympics. i wonder how important it was to the committee that Rio would be upgrading it's infrastructure for the world cup 2 years before.


From what I've read, that was the difference maker. Brazil has invested over $50 billion in developing Rio prior to 2014, and they've already built a couple of new athletic venues. They also have a plan to convert the Olympic Village into affordable housing for residents of some of the remaining favelas. They also have preliminary plans for a huge airport upgrade and high-speed light rail to Sao Paolo.

In terms of rewarding a city for solid urban development policies, this choice made a lot of sense. This World Cup/Olympics could be a real showcase for the possibilities in urban renewal.


Posted by Damerchi on Oct-02-2009 18:31:

appeasement for him and sarko checkin out underage Rio booty if you ask me


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Oct-02-2009 18:41:

Why would the Olympic committee choose a corrupt gang infested city with shitty infrastructure?


Posted by Shakka on Oct-02-2009 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Why would the Olympic committee choose a corrupt gang infested city with shitty infrastructure?


I think you misread: Chicago lost.


Forgive me, I love that city.


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Oct-02-2009 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
I think you misread: Chicago lost.


Forgive me, I love that city.


Maybe I was too harsh. Rio has its own gang problems. I knew Chicago lost.


Posted by Barack5 on Oct-02-2009 21:23:

Rio De Janeiro is a nice city.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-02-2009 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Why would the Olympic committee choose a corrupt gang infested city with shitty infrastructure?


Welcome to 1995. Rio's made big strides in the past decade.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-02-2009 22:22:

quote:
When the International Olympic Committee voted against Chicago's bid for the 2016 Olympics this morning -- after the President and First Lady flew to Copenhagen to push for it in person -- the Weekly Standard newsroom burst into applause.

"Cheers erupt at Weekly Standard world headquarters," wrote editor John McCormack in a post titled "Chicago Loses! Chicago Loses!"

The line was quickly removed, but ThinkProgress caught it in time and posted a screenshot of the post.

But even with the edits, McCormack is still obviously reveling in America's defeat.

"As a citizen of the world who believes that No one nation can or should try to dominate another nation, I'm glad that the Obama White House's jingoist rhetoric and attempt to pay back Chicago cronies at the expense of undermining our relationships with our allies failed," he wrote.

McCormack's fellow conservatives joined in the celebration.

"Chicago and Tokyo eliminated. No Obamalypics," Michelle Malkin tweeted, following up with, "Game over on Obamalympics. Next up, Obamacare."

"Please, please let me break this news to you. It's so sweet," said Glenn Beck on his radio show.

"Hahahahaha," wrote Red State's Erick Erickson. "So Obama's pimped us to every two bit thug and dictator in the world, made promises to half the Olympic committee, and they did not even kiss him. So much for improving America's standing in the world, Barry O."

The Drudge Report announced the news like so: "WORLD REJECTS OBAMA: CHICAGO OUT IN FIRST ROUND. THE EGO HAS LANDED."

"The worst day of Obama's presidency, folks. The ego has landed. The world has rejected Obama," echoed Rush Limbaugh.

"For those of you ... who are upset that I sound gleeful, I am. I don't deny it. I'm happy," Limbaugh said. "Anything that gets in the way of Barack Obama accomplishing his domestic agenda is fine with me."

"President Obama fails to get the Olympics while unemployment goes to 9.8% Iran continues nuclear program. America needs focused leadership," Newt Gingrich tweeted. Then he added, "Somehow charm and oratory dont seem to work in foreign affirs but historians have warned that foreign policy is different than campaigning." (sic)

"ChicagP\/\/n3D!" tweeted Newsmax, of recent fame for running, then pulling, a column about an impending military coup against Obama.

Apparently no one read the tweet from former Bush flack Scott Stanzel.

"Note to GOP officials/consultants - resist the temptation to pile on about Chicago losing the Olympic bid just because Obama made the pitch," he wrote, advice reportedly passed on by Former Mitt Romney spokesman Kevin Madden.

Fox News, however, saw it coming. A Fox anchor told senior adviser David Axelrod she could "imagine the headlines" that would come out of this, that Obama had been "rebuked," and had "failed." Axelrod simply responded that no one could doubt Obama's influence after watching the G-20, and said neither he nor the President have any regrets about trying.


http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmem...ics.php?ref=fpa

Such a patriotic group. Makes you believe they'd be against world peace if Obama was for it.


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Oct-02-2009 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Welcome to 1995. Rio's made big strides in the past decade.


I was talking about Chicago.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Oct-03-2009 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmem...ics.php?ref=fpa

Such a patriotic group. Makes you believe they'd be against world peace if Obama was for it.



"The worst day of Obama's presidency, folks. The ego has landed. The world has rejected Obama," echoed Rush Limbaugh.


If the worst day in obama's presidency is the day chicago lost it's olympic bid, i'd take that presidency in a heart beat.

Do these people even think? Chicago probably lost because Brazil was willing to dish out more money; obviously it was unrelated to obama. jeez!


Posted by Fir3start3r on Oct-03-2009 05:17:

This just helps solidify the fact that Brazil is an up and coming economic power in the world.

In our monthly investment group meetings they can't get enough of this country - there is TONS of changes going on in Brazil right now...


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Oct-03-2009 09:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmem...ics.php?ref=fpa

Such a patriotic group. Makes you believe they'd be against world peace if Obama was for it.


America's democracy is obsolete. No real debate, no real compromise, and one of the least engaged, least informed electorates in the Western world. If Rush Limbaugh is the mouthpiece for the Republican Party, and we all know he is, then this country is doomed. The day our politics is controlled by radicals is the day American democracy fails, and in my opinion, it's failing. America's democracy is obsolete.


Posted by pmoisse on Oct-03-2009 10:27:

hahah I'm amazed at how this is somehow Obama's fault. All the other world leaders were there, and only one nation won - are they failures too?

Even CNN started talking shit about Brazil 5 minutes after the results were read, saying how there was uncertainty they could pull it off, security concerns blah blah.

What sore losers.

The US has had 4 Olympics since 1980. It's time for someone else to have a chance, especially on a continent that hasn't held them before.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Oct-03-2009 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
hahah I'm amazed at how this is somehow Obama's fault. All the other world leaders were there, and only one nation won - are they failures too?

Even CNN started talking shit about Brazil 5 minutes after the results were read, saying how there was uncertainty they could pull it off, security concerns blah blah.

What sore losers.

The US has had 4 Olympics since 1980. It's time for someone else to have a chance, especially on a continent that hasn't held them before.


SLC doesn't really count. The olympic committee is kind of limited with respect to hosts for the winter olympics. There's really only a handful of countries with the winter sports infrastructure to host the games. Probably only the US, Japan, Canada, and continental europe. Having the winter games in Chile or Argentina would be a disaster!

All that aside, i'm happy Brazil won. Olympics are a bitch. The vancouver games have already fucked up my annual Whistler vacation (have to push it forward into the beginning of January). Moreover, many times the games are a net loss (in real money terms) for the hosts. Vancouver was having all kinds of problems financing the olympic village.


Posted by pmoisse on Oct-03-2009 20:22:

^Hit Fernie, Kicking Horse or Revelstoke instead of Whistler. Way more powder

I hear what you're saying about the winter olympics, but hell, south America and New Zealand have some amazing skiing. With a bit of construction work they could make a hockey arena or two, bobsled run and ski jump thing and off we go. It shouldn't be limited to the north, thought history does reinforce this.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Oct-03-2009 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
^Hit Fernie, Kicking Horse or Revelstoke instead of Whistler. Way more powder

I hear what you're saying about the winter olympics, but hell, south America and New Zealand have some amazing skiing. With a bit of construction work they could make a hockey arena or two, bobsled run and ski jump thing and off we go. It shouldn't be limited to the north, thought history does reinforce this.


Wow.

Someone else that knows Revelstoke??

Grew up there for my 1st 16yrs of life. (Moved to Barrie, Ontario - 1 hr North of Toronto - after that)
Lots of Europeans would come over during the winter months for Heli-skiing.
(Others would die because of avalanche stupidity - ie. ignoring the warnings...)

and I would agree, the powder can be amazing!!
and man do I miss it


Posted by pmoisse on Oct-04-2009 04:06:

^I grew up in Waterloo ON, and have only ridden Marmot in Jasper but enough people I know go on and on about Revvy and Kicking Horse. One of these days I'll take a trip home to ride the fine interior pow.

I'm going home next week and will bring my snowboard back here to NL with me so that I can maybe hit Garmisch or somewhere in France or Austria this year. I really want to hit Are in Sweden in April where there is 22 hours of daylight in which to ride.


Posted by jerZ07002 on Oct-04-2009 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
^Hit Fernie, Kicking Horse or Revelstoke instead of Whistler. Way more powder


I've heard good things about all of those places. The only problem is getting to those places; they're all located in the middle of nowhere, and flights to Calgary are expensive and arrivals are at weird times. I can get on a $300 flight at 5pm from Newark going to Seattle and be in whistler by 2-3 am, not losing any boarding time because of travel. Plus, the whistler scene is a huge bonus!

EDIT - oh yeah, whistler is also good because if the powder isn't there, they have a sick park. I know all too well about planning snowboarding trips during dry spells, so i like to go to places with some diversity. FYI - The only park better than Whistler's park is Mammoth mountains's (Cali) park.


quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
I hear what you're saying about the winter olympics, but hell, south America and New Zealand have some amazing skiing. With a bit of construction work they could make a hockey arena or two, bobsled run and ski jump thing and off we go. It shouldn't be limited to the north, thought history does reinforce this.


amazing skiing doesn't make for amazing facilities. The south american ski resorts have shitty amenities. That makes for great skiing for those who are there, but it is a terrible revenue driver. NZ also has some shitty ski areas. NZ is better known for the backcountry than the resorts.


Posted by occrider on Oct-06-2009 07:10:

Wait so this is good news right? I'm still waiting for any "conservative" to properly explain this to me. How out of touch can you be? Kind of surprised at you shaka, but perhaps I'm misunderstanding the intent of your post.


Posted by Shakka on Oct-06-2009 11:03:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Wait so this is good news right? I'm still waiting for any "conservative" to properly explain this to me. How out of touch can you be? Kind of surprised at you shaka, but perhaps I'm misunderstanding the intent of your post.


You must be misunderstanding me. There was no point, I was just posting the news. I could care less who gets the Olympics and why. I find the whole interchange on the subject to be humorous. Don't forget, I'm from Atlanta--I've already been through the Olympic experience and it is highly overrated.

What did you think my point was?


Posted by occrider on Oct-08-2009 06:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
You must be misunderstanding me. There was no point, I was just posting the news. I could care less who gets the Olympics and why. I find the whole interchange on the subject to be humorous. Don't forget, I'm from Atlanta--I've already been through the Olympic experience and it is highly overrated.

What did you think my point was?


Well I stand corrected then. There's simply been a lot of conservative "elation" I should say about Obama's failure to secure the olympics bid in his meeting with the IOC. To be honest, it almost seems that some conservatives are happy about ANY obama failure even if it puts ideology over country. It pissed me off whenever liberals did this with bush as well. However, I just wanted to clarify the point you were making.

/although you don't think the olympics were good for Atlanta?


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