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How do you like your pen0r?

I'm going to have a son in about 2-3 weeks, and I've already made up my mind as far as "cut" vs. "uncut," but my question is; would you have your son "cut" and how do you prefer your member, or your member's member, if you have a preference?

Yes...I know I'm opening up a can of worms...

...and if you don't believe me, here's the little dude from a few months ago...

cut.

I can't really say how I "prefer" my own since it has been the same as far back as I can remember. I would imagine most guys are the same way.

I would not get my son's cut. He can decide if he wants it later.

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Yep. Couldn't tell you as mine was always cut and I had no say in it.

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I'd realize that it's his penis, so I shouldn't be making the decision. Complicated, I know.

uncut for sure. people who bitch about cleanliness either don't understand or don't know how to clean it/take care of themselves well.

if he wants it later on in life it's his decision.

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Originally posted by Arbiter I'd realize that it's his penis, so I shouldn't be making the decision. Complicated, I know.

Does that go the same for vaccinations and non-emergency childhood medical procedures?

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Does that go the same for vaccinations and non-emergency childhood medical procedures?

Not unless said "non-emergency childhood medical procedures" involve removing body parts, and I can't imagine we'd be lopping off body parts without an emergency. Oh, wait.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Does that go the same for vaccinations and non-emergency childhood medical procedures?

that's retarded logic, if you're trying to prove a point (apologies if i'm reading this wrong)

circumcision is a permanent physical alteration of a person's body. vaccinations are drug injections used to prevent disease- you didn't lop off an ear to get your hepatitis vaccination did you?

circumcision is widely believed to prevent uncleanliness (and therefore disease) but ffs people took that half-truth and ran with it. if you keep your shit clean (as EVERYONE should, regardless of sex) it's not an issue.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Not unless said "non-emergency childhood medical procedures" involve removing body parts, and I can't imagine we'd be lopping off body parts without an emergency. Oh, wait.

lol @ us both using the term "lopping"

What exactly would be a reason for not cutting? just curious.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Not unless said "non-emergency childhood medical procedures" involve removing body parts, and I can't imagine we'd be lopping off body parts without an emergency. Oh, wait.

So, let's say your baby's hand looked like this...



...would you operate or wait until he was 18?

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Originally posted by NeoPhono So, let's say your baby's hand looked like this... ...would you operate or wait until he was 18?

you're treating foreskin as if it were a deformity, you fucking idiot. your logic is so fucking ridiculous i can't tell if you're taking the piss or not

EVERY male has a foreskin when born. it's there for a purpose. don't mutilate your kid man. furthermore once extra skin grows over the glans, you lose sensation.. every male with a cut dick doesn't feel sex the same as a normal male. sucks to be them.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono So, let's say your baby's hand looked like this... ...would you operate or wait until he was 18?

Operate, obviously. Are you being intentionally dense here?

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue you're treating foreskin as if it were a deformity, you fucking idiot. your logic is so fucking ridiculous i can't tell if you're taking the piss or not EVERY male has a foreskin when born. it's there for a purpose. don't mutilate your kid man. furthermore once extra skin grows over the glans, you lose sensation.. every male with a cut dick doesn't feel sex the same as a normal male. sucks to be them.

Context. We were talking about non-emergency medical procedures in infants and the removal of "body parts." There was nothing said about deformities. Learn to talk like an adult. Maybe then your opinion will be taken seriously.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Operate, obviously. Are you being intentionally dense here?

Why is this so obvious? What will be gained by surgery now that couldn't wait until he is an adult?

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue you're treating foreskin as if it were a deformity, you fucking idiot. your logic is so fucking ridiculous i can't tell if you're taking the piss or not EVERY male has a foreskin when born. it's there for a purpose. don't mutilate your kid man. furthermore once extra skin grows over the glans, you lose sensation.. every male with a cut dick doesn't feel sex the same as a normal male. sucks to be them.

If the kid never has foreskin it's not like he'll miss it or think about what it would be like to have it. At least, I don't think that would be the case.

I'm cut and I've never thought "Gee, I wish I had foreskin so that this sex was better..." lol.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Context. We were talking about non-emergency medical procedures in infants and the removal of "body parts." There was nothing said about deformities. Learn to talk like an adult. Maybe then your opinion will be taken seriously.

there was plenty IMPLIED about deformities, because you just tried comparing a deformity to a natural and normal occurring appendage. context is moot when you're comparing two quite obviously different situations, you ignoramus. you uneducated half-wit. you ill-informed nincompoop.

accuse me of not "talking like an adult" all you want, but when you make wild comparisons and spout nonsensical reasoning, nobody takes you seriously.

idiot.

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Originally posted by floyd741 If the kid never has foreskin it's not like he'll miss it or think about what it would be like to have it. At least, I don't think that would be the case. I'm cut and I've never thought "Gee, I wish I had foreskin so that this sex was better..." lol.

true but you can't speak for everyone, i'm sure there's some dude out there thinking, "i wonder if sex is better with an uncut weiner" and realizing that he'll never know. are you thinking about it now?

and it's not just about the sensation, it's about unnatural bodily modification that provides (in some opinions) more harm than good; done without an individual's choice, due to religious beliefs or faulty beliefs (cleanliness).

in the end you're making the decision for him when there's no harm in making the decision for himself later on in life. what if he wanted his foreskin? too late now kid, we lopped it off before you had the mental capacity to make your own decisions.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue there was plenty IMPLIED about deformities, because you just tried comparing a deformity to a natural and normal occurring appendage. context is moot when you're comparing two quite obviously different situations, you ignoramus. you uneducated half-wit. you ill-informed nincompoop. accuse me of not "talking like an adult" all you want, but when you make wild comparisons and spout nonsensical reasoning, nobody takes you seriously. idiot.

I'll make it a little clearer; the issue was whether parents should be able to make a decision to "alter" the appearance of their children in non-life threatening cases.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue true but you can't speak for everyone, i'm sure there's some dude out there thinking, "i wonder if sex is better with an uncut weiner" and realizing that he'll never know. are you thinking about it now?

nope, I'm quite content with sex the way it is

cut , uncut looks so weird

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue true but you can't speak for everyone, i'm sure there's some dude out there thinking, "i wonder if sex is better with an uncut weiner" and realizing that he'll never know. are you thinking about it now? and it's not just about the sensation, it's about unnatural bodily modification that provides (in some opinions) more harm than good; done without an individual's choice, due to religious beliefs or faulty beliefs (cleanliness). in the end you're making the decision for him when there's no harm in making the decision for himself later on in life. what if he wanted his foreskin? too late now kid, we lopped it off before you had the mental capacity to make your own decisions.

i have a friend whose parents had this mentality. He hated having foreskin and wishes they would have done it when he was a child so he didnt't have to go through the procedure as an adult.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Why is this so obvious? What will be gained by surgery now that couldn't wait until he is an adult?

Eighteen years worth of developing normal functional dexterity in his hand, for one.

But that's really aside from the point.

The very fact that this topic of discussion exists makes plainly obvious the most important distinction between circumcision and treatment for syndactyly. You, in your original post ask "how do you prefer your member," yet no one would seriously inquire whether people prefer their digits normal or fused. Indeed, you even acknowledge that you are "opening up a can of worms," which shows that you realize not merely that many people have vastly different preferences, but that people's opinions are deeply held and highly personal.

I assume you are not seriously suggesting that a parent making a mundane medical decision on behalf of their child is comparable to them unilaterally and irreversibly imposing their own personal preferences on such a highly contentious and deeply personal matter. Yet, in the absence of such a suggestion, I am not really sure what your point is. Perhaps you could elaborate.

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