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Posted by tehlord on Dec-02-2009 14:12:

a WIP that i'm stalled on - a good 10bpm slower than the norm for me!

It's a remix of 'The Longest Road' ft Morgan Page

I was trying to keep things clean and uncluttered using the new powercore plugs and was paying special attention to getting a really nice snare sound.

There's absolutely no intro yet and also nothing but boom-tish in the verses but i'm kind of pleased with the way the choruses are shaping up. I've sat in front of this for two nights no and absolutely nothing has come to me for the verses so i'm just going to post this 50% 'written' version.

I've approached somebody I know to do some guitar parts for it too, kind of like a cowboy twang thang

It's also not gone through my 'mastering' flavours yet so it's a bit quiet for us tarnce heads

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8412091


Posted by Owsey on Dec-02-2009 16:11:

The first 40 seconds feel a little empty to me, but I must say that you've got a clean sound! Maybe it's just me, but the snare sounds a little bottom heavy?

I found this to be pretty chilling, even though it's not my style! Good job.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-02-2009 17:22:

Thanks


The beginning and verses are empty because I've done nothing with them yet. I have tried a couple of things but ended up binning it all so far!

The snare may well be a bit bottom heavy as it sits with the kick at the moment. I'll revisit that on a mixdown on the monitors.

Thanks for the comments


Posted by owien on Dec-03-2009 00:48:

sounds good the only thing i can see it may need a bit of is some swing it sounded a bit strait in places but nice and clean thoe


Posted by sako487 on Dec-03-2009 02:36:

The percs def make this really empty. Put in some loops but not too many, tweak them a bit also in a slicer. The snare my most hated type of snare(just my opinion!) its so boring and bland. Try a clapish snare, I know of some good ones in the minimal vengeance pack, has some really good ones. Overall the track needs way more elements.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-03-2009 10:29:

There are definately a massive amount of elements to add. In the OP I stated that I was stalled on the mix as I was starting at empty intros and versus and the reason I was posting it here was for some feedback that would genrate a few ideas!

Which I've got now!


I was talking to a pal of mine last night and we've got some ideas brewing for a load of guitar parts for the track so I think that's the road it'll go (no pun)down next week.


The snare is staying. I love it I'll probably use a clap in everywhere else but the chorus though.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Dec-03-2009 16:36:

Sorry man, really crazy time in my work, not much time to do what I really like - music.

I'm on it right now, so give me a few min. and I will get beck to you.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Dec-03-2009 17:30:

It is a really clean track, well constructed and beautifully blended together � grate work man.

If any suggestion from me would be to work on your drums pattern (particularly crash, very it a bit) and try to bring your pad and synt forward a little more (expose it ) because it will dramatically increase tension in this song and let people melodically connect with your song � if this make any sense to you.

This apr at 2:40 should definitely be louder � because become a prime sound in this part of your song after this lovely vocal.

I know that this is only a beginning and those are only my suggestions, so don�t worry you know better what will work for your.

Damn man this is another good production with a lot of potential from you. Stay cool man.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-03-2009 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
It is a really clean track, well constructed and beautifully blended together � grate work man.

If any suggestion from me would be to work on your drums pattern (particularly crash, very it a bit) and try to bring your pad and synt forward a little more (expose it ) because it will dramatically increase tension in this song and let people melodically connect with your song � if this make any sense to you.

This apr at 2:40 should definitely be louder � because become a prime sound in this part of your song after this lovely vocal.

I know that this is only a beginning and those are only my suggestions, so don�t worry you know better what will work for your.

Damn man this is another good production with a lot of potential from you. Stay cool man.


Thanks dude

I always appreciate your feedback, and that's not just because you usually like my stuff

I'm definately going to take my time finishing this one and do it justice!

Cheers


Posted by TranceLover007 on Dec-03-2009 19:40:

No problem man, I will help if people need a help and can give a suggestion if someone needs one, but some people don't need any because they are really good in what they are doing already (this includes you).

What we should do (all TA members), is to coop together and release CD with ours best tracks - that would be a fun!

Cheers from Seattle man.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-03-2009 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007


What we should do (all TA members), is to coop together and release CD with ours best tracks - that would be a fun!




That, is a superb idea.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Dec-03-2009 19:53:

Lets people joint this post and let us know what they think about it.

This could be really funny project and give some of us a lot of exposure. I like it already.

Damn this could be fun!


Posted by cryophonik on Dec-03-2009 19:55:

FWIW, I also like the snare - it's very punchy and gives the song some energy, whereas a clap might leave it feeling a little more laid back. But I tend to not get caught up in my personal preferences of individual sound choices like many people seem to do. I try to see the bigger picture, which makes reviewing a WIP sorta difficult for me, but I really like the direction of this track. The elements that are there now definitely work together IMO and the vox sound great. Can't wait to hear the final version!


Posted by tehlord on Dec-03-2009 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
FWIW, I also like the snare - it's very punchy and gives the song some energy, whereas a clap might leave it feeling a little more laid back. But I tend to not get caught up in my personal preferences of individual sound choices like many people seem to do. I try to see the bigger picture, which makes reviewing a WIP sorta difficult for me, but I really like the direction of this track. The elements that are there now definitely work together IMO and the vox sound great. Can't wait to hear the final version!


Cheers Dave

I'll have to be honest and say a vocal of that quality is THE greatest element of this track, but that's what seems to get the best stuff out of me too, so QED

I'm waiting for some guitar parts to come through now after duscussing it at length with the guitarist.



quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Lets people joint this post and let us know what they think about it.

This could be really funny project and give some of us a lot of exposure. I like it already.

Damn this could be fun!


Might be a good idea not to hide it in another one of my WIP posts

Let it live and breath somewhere else!


Posted by TranceLover007 on Dec-03-2009 20:11:

I agree.


Posted by motionblur on Dec-06-2009 22:18:

i quite like the snare too.. but it is a bit heavy on the low end. and i think some more hats and other higher frequency percs are needed.

and i like the CD idea


Posted by tehlord on Dec-06-2009 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by motionblur
i quite like the snare too.. but it is a bit heavy on the low end. and i think some more hats and other higher frequency percs are needed.

and i like the CD idea


I'll definately re-visit the percussion once I get the other parts to the track through. The bottom end on the snare is most likely the kick coming through. I'll have to remedy that in some way without changing the sound of the snare!


Posted by Richard Butler on Dec-07-2009 16:48:

I really like the sound mate and dont change the snare as it suits well and I get a bit bored with clappy thangs sometimes.

Has a nice 'electric' quality I really enjoy.

Plus lots of space. This is how I like to mix (although I tend to get swayed by the inevitable 'make it fuller' comments), or give me nmore percs - yet I like it kinda striped back on some tracks).

Great work.

I don't think it needs much else tbh.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-15-2009 22:15:

Got a rough mix with the guitars in now.

It still needs plenty of work, intro/outro/FX etc but i'm liking the way the guitars feel in the track so far


http://soundcloud.com/bluffmunkey/t...-ft-dave-gerard


Posted by TranceLover007 on Dec-15-2009 22:46:

Love it, feel like this guitar complement everything else nicely.

Great job.

PS. Soon, you by yourself should be able to release CD man (don't need any of us anymore lol).

Stay cool.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-15-2009 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Love it, feel like this guitar complement everything else nicely.

Great job.

PS. Soon, you by yourself should be able to release CD man (don't need any of us anymore lol).

Stay cool.



Hehe cheers


It's not about need, it's about want. I like teh community



That's far too American a comment for a dry Brit


Posted by TranceLover007 on Dec-15-2009 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Hehe cheers


It's not about need, it's about want. I like teh community



That's far too American a comment for a dry Brit



So, sound like we are still friends lol.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-15-2009 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
So, sound like we are still friends lol.



Posted by MSZ on Dec-15-2009 23:23:

eh monkeh

this is very slick, nice work, clean. dont mean to be a dick, but i say take out those hihats in the start. the only thing i could recommend to improve this, is to have quite a lot more presence in the bass. other than that this is very sweet.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-15-2009 23:28:

quote:
Originally posted by msz
eh monkeh

this is very slick, nice work, clean. dont mean to be a dick, but i say take out those hihats in the start. the only thing i could recommend to improve this, is to have quite a lot more presence in the bass. other than that this is very sweet.



Thanks for the feedback as always

Thos hats will be gone when it's all finished. I've got an idea for an intro but I need to get teh guitarist to do another part for it. The intro will be about 30 seconds long and completely replace the first few bars of whats there now.

I've hopefully got some Dynaudio BM5a's coming next week so I'll take another look at the bassline when I get those.


Thanks again


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