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Posted by Swamper on Dec-15-2009 19:58:

What Phone Carriers Aren’t Eager to Tell You About Texting

This is from a year ago but worth posting. I was talking to someone today about a Rogers story on CBC and they were more outraged after reading this too.

What Carriers Aren’t Eager to Tell You About Texting
By RANDALL STROSS
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TEXT messaging is a wonderful business to be in: about 2.5 trillion messages will have been sent from cellphones worldwide this year. The public assumes that the wireless carriers’ costs are far higher than they actually are, and profit margins are concealed by a heavy curtain.

Senator Herb Kohl, Democrat of Wisconsin and the chairman of the Senate antitrust subcommittee, wanted to look behind the curtain. He was curious about the doubling of prices for text messages charged by the major American carriers from 2005 to 2008, during a time when the industry consolidated from six major companies to four.

So, in September, Mr. Kohl sent a letter to Verizon Wireless, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile, inviting them to answer some basic questions about their text messaging costs and pricing.

All four of the major carriers decided during the last three years to increase the pay-per-use price for messages to 20 cents from 10 cents. The decision could not have come from a dearth of business: the 2.5 trillion sent messages this year, the estimate of the Gartner Group, is up 32 percent from 2007. Gartner expects 3.3 trillion messages to be sent in 2009.

The written responses to Senator Kohl from AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile speak at length about pricing plans without getting around to the costs of conveying text messages. My attempts to speak with representatives of all three about their costs and pricing were unsuccessful. (Verizon Wireless would not speak with me, either, nor would it allow Mr. Kohl’s office to release publicly its written response.)

The carriers will have other opportunities to tell us more about their pricing decisions: 20 class-action lawsuits have been filed around the country against AT&T and the other carriers, alleging price-fixing for text messaging services. Timothy P. McKone, AT&T’s executive vice president for federal relations, told the senator that the suits had been filed “since your letter was made public” and said that he was “eager to clear up any misunderstanding.”

T-Mobile and AT&T contended in their responses to Mr. Kohl that the pay-per-use price of a message is relatively unimportant because most messaging is done as part of a package. With a $10 or $15 monthly plan for text messaging, customers of T-Mobile, AT&T and Sprint can effectively bring the per-message price down to a penny, if they fully use their monthly allotment.

T-Mobile called Mr. Kohl’s attention to the fact that its “average revenue per text message, which takes into account the revenue for all text messages, has declined by more than 50 percent since 2005.”

This statement seems like good news for customers. But consider what is left out: In the past three years, the volume of text messaging in the United States has grown tenfold, according to CTIA — the Wireless Association, a trade group based in Washington. If T-Mobile enjoyed growth that was typical, its text messaging revenue grew fivefold, even with the steep drop in per-message revenue.

The lucrative nature of that revenue increase cannot be appreciated without doing something that T-Mobile chose not to do, which is to talk about whether its costs rose as the industry’s messaging volume grew tenfold. Mr. Kohl’s letter of inquiry noted that “text messaging files are very small, as the size of text messages are generally limited to 160 characters per message, and therefore cost carriers very little to transmit.”

A better description might be “cost carriers very, very, very little to transmit.”

A text message initially travels wirelessly from a handset to the closest base-station tower and is then transferred through wired links to the digital pipes of the telephone network, and then, near its destination, converted back into a wireless signal to traverse the final leg, from tower to handset. In the wired portion of its journey, a file of such infinitesimal size is inconsequential. Srinivasan Keshav, a professor of computer science at the University of Waterloo, in Ontario, said: “Messages are small. Even though a trillion seems like a lot to carry, it isn’t.”

Perhaps the costs for the wireless portion at either end are high — spectrum is finite, after all, and carriers pay dearly for the rights to use it. But text messages are not just tiny; they are also free riders, tucked into what’s called a control channel, space reserved for operation of the wireless network.

That’s why a message is so limited in length: it must not exceed the length of the message used for internal communication between tower and handset to set up a call. The channel uses space whether or not a text message is inserted.

Professor Keshav said that once a carrier invests in the centralized storage equipment — storing a terabyte now costs only $100 and is dropping — and the staff to maintain it, its costs are basically covered. “Operating costs are relatively insensitive to volume,” he said. “It doesn’t cost the carrier much more to transmit a hundred million messages than a million.”

UNTIL Mr. Kohl began his inquiries, the public had no reason to think of the text-messaging business as anything but an ordinary one, whose operational costs rose in tandem with message volume. The carriers had no reason to correct such an impression.

Professor Keshav, whose academic research received financial support from one of the four major American carriers, discovered just how secretive the carriers are when it comes to this business. Two years ago, when he requested information from his sponsor about its network operations in the past so that his students could study a real-world text-messaging network, he was turned down. He said the company liaison told him, “Even our own researchers are not permitted to see that data.”

Once one understands that a text message travels wirelessly as a stowaway within a control channel, one sees the carriers’ pricing plans in an entirely new light. The most profitable plan for the carriers will be the one that collects the most revenue from the customer: unlimited messaging, for which AT&T and Sprint charge $20 a month and T-Mobile, $15.

Customers with unlimited plans, like diners bringing a healthy appetite to an all-you-can-eat cafeteria, might think they’re getting the best out of the arrangement. But the carriers, unlike the cafeteria owners, can provide unlimited quantities of “food” at virtually no cost to themselves — so long as it is served in bite-sized portions.


Posted by Intangible on Dec-15-2009 20:03:

Hmmmm interesting... But no surprise... Wireless Carriers are jerks.

If I didnt have a plan I would spend over $400 a month on text messages (sent messages)


Posted by FunkyCrew on Dec-15-2009 20:09:

wireless peeps are jerks in general lol

our plans are here are such a disgrace - to pay extra money for caller ID display? my friends in Europe laugh at me


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-15-2009 20:16:





The carrier that makes the most cash with TXT msgs is Chinamobile, billions upon billions of ppl sending txt msgs during Chinese New Year. Its gets so clogged up, you can’t even send sh*t ... picture this, it's like our NYE but, it's 2 weeks w/ all that traffic.

99% of customers on that network don't have a contract, it's all pay as you go ... therefore no txt msg plans and it's pay per use.
It's pretty much the same price as here, 0.10 / msg and it's in their economy structure.


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i once went buck wild w/o a txt msg plan many years ago ... wanted to test how many msgs i sent out in a month. My txt msgs charges was way more then my bill ...


Posted by chinamon on Dec-15-2009 20:20:

thank god for my 10,000 sms per month.
i also have 10,000 mms per month... wish i could exchange those for more sms.


Posted by exstasie on Dec-15-2009 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
wireless peeps are jerks in general lol

our plans are here are such a disgrace - to pay extra money for caller ID display? my friends in Europe laugh at me



I wouldn't call the merchants in the wireless industry jerks. They are just taking advantage of the competitive-less mobile market that we have in Canada.

If any of those 'European' phone companies operated in Canada, they would operate with the same standards and ideology as Rogers/Bell/Telus does. Make a profit.

People are willing to pay an arm & a leg for wireless service since there isn't much choice, so why not charge them an arm and a leg.


Posted by BuffaloLiz on Dec-15-2009 20:25:

THANK GOD for my unlimited sms and mms


Posted by Geoffb3 on Dec-15-2009 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Intangible
Hmmmm interesting... But no surprise... Wireless Carriers are jerks.

If I didnt have a plan I would spend over $400 a month on text messages (sent messages)



lol

+ 1


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-15-2009 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
thank god for my 10,000 sms per month.
i also have 10,000 mms per month... wish i could exchange those for more sms.


Sounds like the BB Data Value pack ver1 I posted last yr


Unlimited doesn't mean unlimited ... there's a softcap to each data and txt msging

Txt Msg = 10,000
Data = 5-6GB


Posted by The Highroller on Dec-15-2009 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I wouldn't call the merchants in the wireless industry jerks. They are just taking advantage of the competitive-less mobile market that we have in Canada.

If any of those 'European' phone companies operated in Canada, they would operate with the same standards and ideology as Rogers/Bell/Telus does. Make a profit.

People are willing to pay an arm & a leg for wireless service since there isn't much choice, so why not charge them an arm and a leg.


Sure, but the government needs to open up the industry to more competition, and the CRTC needs to smarten up and modernize themselves.

The mobile market in Canada is horrible for the consumer. We pay way too much for what we get in comparison with other G8 countries.


Posted by Intangible on Dec-15-2009 20:55:

Is the market still opening up for 2010?


Posted by exstasie on Dec-15-2009 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Sure, but the government needs to open up the industry to more competition, and the CRTC needs to smarten up and modernize themselves.

The mobile market in Canada is horrible for the consumer. We pay way too much for what we get in comparison with other G8 countries.


I agree 100%. The Government is also to blame for this.

Thank god there weren't any further setbacks with the launch of Wind Mobile.

quote:
Originally posted by Intangible
Is the market still opening up for 2010?


Yes..and by 2010 I mean Tomorrow.

Wind Mobile is launching tomorrow in Toronto & Calgary.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-15-2009 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I agree 100%. The Government is also to blame for this.

Thank god there weren't any further setbacks with the launch of Wind Mobile.



Yes..and by 2010 I mean Tomorrow.

Wind Mobile is launching tomorrow in Toronto & Calgary.



I thought it was today ... heading over to blockbuster to talk to their reps after work.


Posted by exstasie on Dec-15-2009 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
I thought it was today ... heading over to blockbuster to talk to their reps after work.


They could have them ready today at some of the blockbusters...

Edit: Just read that the WIND Mobile store/kiosks are actually open at some of the locations, but the aren't selling anything yet. There are reps though to answer your questions.

quote:

Calgary Blockbuster Stores
7740 18th St E, Calgary
380 Canyon Meadows Dr SE, Calgary
62 Saddletowne Cir NE, Calgary

GTA Blockbuster Stores
1692 Lakeshore Rd West, Mississauga
1151 Dundas St W, Mississauga
320 Main St N Unit 16, Brampton
1289 Marlborough Crt, Oakville
2432 Eglinton Ave E, Toronto
2940 Finch Ave E, Toronto
837 Danforth Ave, Toronto
5825 Yonge St, Toronto
75 Hanna Avenue, Toronto
125 The Queensway, Toronto
1615 Dundas St E, Whitby
310 Harwood Ave S, Ajax
1360 Kingston Rd, Pickering


however the official launch is tomorrow at 10am.


Posted by chinamon on Dec-15-2009 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Sounds like the BB Data Value pack ver1 I posted last yr


Unlimited doesn't mean unlimited ... there's a softcap to each data and txt msging

Txt Msg = 10,000
Data = 5-6GB


yeah thats exactly what i have.
i believe the data is 500mb... at least thats what it looks like when i check data usage on my rogers account.


Posted by exstasie on Dec-15-2009 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
yeah thats exactly what i have.
i believe the data is 500mb... at least thats what it looks like when i check data usage on my rogers account.


yeah, the BB Value pack has 500MB on it.

I actually called to cancel it 3 weeks ago cause I don't really need it anymore and they just gave me a $5.00 discount for that package...which is decent as I was debating whether or not to cancel it.


Posted by Skipper on Dec-15-2009 21:38:

Texts are the perfect product, what do you expect? in high demand, virtually zero cost, unlimited supply and customers with relatively elastic demand. Brilliant.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Dec-15-2009 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
yeah, the BB Value pack has 500MB on it.

I actually called to cancel it 3 weeks ago cause I don't really need it anymore and they just gave me a $5.00 discount for that package...which is decent as I was debating whether or not to cancel it.



That it? Only $5.00 credit to keep it on?

i'm getting $10.00 discount from the day it started, and for the next 5 years it's applied on my account. I was so mad when that info was misleading everyone, CSR, REPS, Customers and etc


Posted by FunkyCrew on Dec-15-2009 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I wouldn't call the merchants in the wireless industry jerks. They are just taking advantage of the competitive-less mobile market that we have in Canada.

If any of those 'European' phone companies operated in Canada, they would operate with the same standards and ideology as Rogers/Bell/Telus does. Make a profit.

People are willing to pay an arm & a leg for wireless service since there isn't much choice, so why not charge them an arm and a leg.


Cyprus used to have 1 wireless provider lol
and prices were still WAY more affordable
even when they got Virgin and a few others, plans are still way better then here
call display + voicemail + call forwarding - all is free and you never pay extra
way better reception then any of these "best networks" here

even my economically/socially/politically backward homecountry of Ukraine has pretty diverse and way more affordable network of wireless providers - noone locks you up in contracts, you can have a plan that actually credits back money to your account depending on how much you spend per month.. noone heard of such nonsense as "locked phones" there


Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-15-2009 22:17:

i agree that the cell phone companies in canada are retarded. But the reality is that if they can get away with it, and people pay it, then they will charge it.

And if they are making pure profit then i congratulate them! After all thats why they are there!

The real issue is why there arent more companies in Canada. Competition improves a product and lowers its price.

Im glad the conservatives overturned the commie CRTC and allowed Wind. Its obvious we need more competition and its obvious that canada is not capable of providing it without foreign intervention.

lets see what happens!


Posted by sunrise3500 on Dec-15-2009 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
even my economically/socially/politically backward homecountry of Ukraine has pretty diverse and way more affordable network of wireless providers - noone locks you up in contracts, you can have a plan that actually credits back money to your account depending on how much you spend per month.. noone heard of such nonsense as "locked phones" there

life


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-15-2009 22:26:


heh check this out:
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/...erstexting.html


Posted by dEsidEL on Dec-15-2009 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
They could have them ready today at some of the blockbusters...

Edit: Just read that the WIND Mobile store/kiosks are actually open at some of the locations, but the aren't selling anything yet. There are reps though to answer your questions.



however the official launch is tomorrow at 10am.




there's supposed to be a huge public celebration happening at their HQ on Queen's Quay tomorrow if you can make it down. FB invites went out today.

never seen this kinda public enthusiasm over a company launch before. just goes to show how messed up this industry was. it's like a velvet revolution lol


Posted by sunrise3500 on Dec-15-2009 22:35:

Receiving scientific data from Hubble Telescope cheaper than SMS
http://www.physorg.com/news129793047.html


Posted by Swamper on Dec-15-2009 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

heh check this out:


Um.. that was the first link in my post? lol


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