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Posted by I_Is_Aydin on Feb-14-2010 00:08:

Tiesto?? What A Joke

I've been a Tiesto fan for years and years and i must say majority of his music is amazing. His ability to experiment with new ideas and construct euphoric tunes has earned him titles of world no.1 many times.

HOWEVER

Tiesto in the modern era has sold himself out. The album of Kaleidoscope has to be the biggest joke to date. I never liked Kaleidoscope at all maybe except for 1 or 2 tracks which mind you are average. However my friend bought me a ticket for the Friday night concert and forced me to go, so me being optimistic, hoped for a night of some good classics (the ones that got him famous and respected in the first place).

The night began with a fail attempt of an opening, i don't know what he was thinking and I don't know why there was so much bass that it sounded like my motorbikes exhaust in my ear. He played I will be here around the beginning which is OK but it isn't Trance, its f***ing Sneaky Sound System music. That song is clearly SSS trademark music not Tiesto's. Anyway i literally grinded through the night because the music was terrible, and what makes it worse is that majority of Aussies these days are into this doof doof shit that has no melody or no brains, might as well as got a frying pan with a rock and banged them together and thats your Tiesto for the night.

To top off my night, this dickhead of a dj rips out some idiotic tune that sounds like Warp from the Bloody Beetroots. How can you honestly even put yourself at the same level as that horrible group. At which point i left the concert and went and got a drink to cool down because i was so pissed off. At some point as well he played about 10 seconds of lethal industry and the crowd went wild, but guess what, we have a lunatic up there Djing so nothing comes out of it.

Out of this massacre of a post, there was one thing which I will give him 1 point for was that he played In the Dark, which was quite good and was different from the elements of life tour version which I enjoyed my 5 minutes worth . But as this is a Tiesto concert he does have to fuck himself over which he of course did, and did it with style.

The HIGHLIGHT of the concert was(im sure the crowd showed this as well) ONE SONG , which ISN'T HIS?????? WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY???? THE BEST SONG OF THE NIGHT WAS ADVANCED BY MARCEL WOODS. WHY ARE YOU HERE PLAYING SOMEONE ELSES MUSIC YOU IDIOT. GET MARCEL WOODS HERE I'D RATHER PAY HIM THE MONEY.

To sum it all up, who once was a great Trance DJ who played good music is now just a heap of shit who goes around playing mainstream crap for more $$$. People who sell themselves out like this don't deserve respect in my opinion because

a) They're richer than I am so if I don't require selling myself out then why reduce yourself that low just for the sake of money

and

b) Remember why you are here in the first place, dumb shit songs from your kaleidoscope album aren't the reason you're respected, it's the reason why you are at present being despised.

Anyways apart from taking up your time to read through all this rage, At least we have Above and Beyond to look forward to


Posted by Trance Nutter on Feb-14-2010 02:25:

Re: Tiesto?? What A Joke

quote:
Originally posted by I_Is_Aydin
Tiesto in the modern era has sold himself out.


no, you don't say?


I was a massive Tiesto fan from about 99/2000 to 2003. He's been utter shit since 2004.



quote:
Originally posted by I_Is_Aydin
and what makes it worse is that majority of Aussies these days are into this doof doof shit that has no melody or no brains,


big dance music events have become something to be seen at (at least thats the case here, but I know Summadayze in Melb is a bit like that though). Its just fashionable people going because its the thing to do. Go to a Stereosonic, Parklife, Future, there are a lot of people who don't have much interest in the music, they're just going because its the thing to do.







I'll stop being a jaded fuck now.


Posted by sm44 on Feb-14-2010 02:38:

I cant really comment on his last tour, but his Elements of Life tour was probably one of the top 5 sets i have heard live. This was the first time i had seen him though and alot of jaded people reckon pre-2003 he was even better.

I avoided this tour because i didnt really want to ruin my good memories of him, i sussed out his set lists and even though it looked okay at best thought i would give him a miss. I think if you compare it to other electro or house sets it is okay, but has a trance set it fails.

I think thats the mistake alot of people make. Tiesto isnt trance or techno anymore.

And sorry but his a dj, he makes a living playing other peoples music just like 99% of the djs in the world, you cant fault him on that. Dj'ing and production is totally different.


Posted by Fledz on Feb-14-2010 03:22:

I went to his last one (I think it was late 2008 or early 2009? To be honest, he was fucking brilliant. The track selection was top notch and the production values of the show were fantastic.

Didn't go to this latest ones but it hasn't been getting great reviews. Ah well, I hardly go clubbing any more anyway, plus I'm listening to a lot more house and prog than trance anyway.

Just go to see DJs who you like at the time, forget the status of them and what they may have been like in the past.


Posted by GOTO on Feb-14-2010 11:12:

Re: Tiesto?? What A Joke

[QUOTE]Originally posted by I_Is_Aydin

that majority of Aussies these days are into this doof doof shit that has no melody or no brains

So TRUE


Posted by pagaille21 on Feb-14-2010 13:51:

Re: Re: Tiesto?? What A Joke

quote:
Originally posted by GOTO
[QUOTE]Originally posted by I_Is_Aydin

that majority of Aussies these days are into this doof doof shit that has no melody or no brains

So TRUE


+1


Posted by Aesthetic on Feb-14-2010 21:19:

Re: Re: Tiesto?? What A Joke

Ditto

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
I was a massive Tiesto fan from about 99/2000 to 2003. He's been utter shit since 2004.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-14-2010 22:08:

I couldn�t give a fuck. I spent most of my weekend listening to Push�s new album. well, 2009 but it was new to me.


Posted by narcism on Feb-15-2010 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz

Just go to see DJs who you like at the time, forget the status of them and what they may have been like in the past.


THIS


Posted by recoil on Feb-15-2010 01:18:

Re: Re: Tiesto?? What A Joke

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter

I'll stop being a jaded fuck now.


fyck that!

VENT !


Posted by Light The Fuse on Feb-15-2010 02:54:

just put on isos 3 and forget all about the crapness that he has become.


Posted by Lilith on Feb-15-2010 06:49:

Re: Tiesto?? What A Joke

quote:
Originally posted by I_Is_Aydin
To sum it all up, who once was a great Trance DJ who played good music is now just a heap of shit who goes around playing mainstream crap for more $$$. People who sell themselves out like this don't deserve respect in my opinion because

a) They're richer than I am so if I don't require selling myself out then why reduce yourself that low just for the sake of money

and

b) Remember why you are here in the first place, dumb shit songs from your kaleidoscope album aren't the reason you're respected, it's the reason why you are at present being despised.


A few things, trance has been for a long time the e-pop, the amoeba's and bacteria's of the electronic music scene, the lowest form of life that still manages to spit out the odd genuinely good track... but it really is mostly just complete crap. In fact I don't think since about 2007 I've actually sat down and grabbed a shovel to dig through the sheer amount of trance crap just to find that little nugget of good music. I simply don't have the time It's much easier to-
Give up
Find a recommendation from someone here
Listen to any number of progressive electronic genres

Lastly, Tiesto is a mainstream DJ, he has been since most of the people on this board where back in school being complete dorks. He did do some great stuff in the early 00's, heck I've still got some favourite remixes from that era that he did. But, it stopped and I stopped listening and quite happy to heckle from the sidelines on TA where no one famous comes anyway.
Trance DJ's are 'too cool' to come here and talk to the punters
They're too busy off getting T-shirts printed, their names on rubbish sneakers and finding a metric arseload of rubbish tracks that fist pumping drunken spastics and etards can jump around when they hear it.

However,
I'm also pragmatic enough to understand 'why' they do it, most industries are unforgiving of fools, the music industry from what I know is even more vicious and the smarter ones get with the act pretty quick smart or they just simply fade away into obscurity. So, he's done quite well at least getting some money squirreled away for retirement one day, which is a very important thing to do in his industry which one day may just simply turn on him and many other's with little or no warning.
For the cool tunes he did, I thank him
For the common sense to punch out of a dead genre I understand
I don't go to his shows because they hold no interest for me, that's life, jog on.


Posted by Aesthetic on Feb-15-2010 09:52:

Re: Re: Tiesto?? What A Joke

nah not really

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
A few things, trance has been for a long time the e-pop, the amoeba's and bacteria's of the electronic music scene, the lowest form of life that still manages to spit out the odd genuinely good track... but it really is mostly just complete crap. In fact I don't think since about 2007 I've actually sat down and grabbed a shovel to dig through the sheer amount of trance crap just to find that little nugget of good music. I simply don't have the time It's much easier to-
Give up
Find a recommendation from someone here
Listen to any number of progressive electronic genres

Lastly, Tiesto is a mainstream DJ, he has been since most of the people on this board where back in school being complete dorks. He did do some great stuff in the early 00's, heck I've still got some favourite remixes from that era that he did. But, it stopped and I stopped listening and quite happy to heckle from the sidelines on TA where no one famous comes anyway.
Trance DJ's are 'too cool' to come here and talk to the punters
They're too busy off getting T-shirts printed, their names on rubbish sneakers and finding a metric arseload of rubbish tracks that fist pumping drunken spastics and etards can jump around when they hear it.

However,
I'm also pragmatic enough to understand 'why' they do it, most industries are unforgiving of fools, the music industry from what I know is even more vicious and the smarter ones get with the act pretty quick smart or they just simply fade away into obscurity. So, he's done quite well at least getting some money squirreled away for retirement one day, which is a very important thing to do in his industry which one day may just simply turn on him and many other's with little or no warning.
For the cool tunes he did, I thank him
For the common sense to punch out of a dead genre I understand
I don't go to his shows because they hold no interest for me, that's life, jog on.


Posted by Ash Parajuli on Feb-16-2010 13:08:

Gotta listen to some proper DJs..ill give u a list, listen to these fellas and you'll forget who the Tiesto of today.

Artists like Eelke Kleijn, Pole Folder, Hernan Cattaneo, Desyn Masiello, Omid 16B, Lemon8, Chris Healings, 16 Bit Lolitas, Henry Saiz, James Talk, J00F, Blake Jarrell, Jody Wisternoff, Nick Warren, Pablo Denegri, Steve Bug, Will Saul..

i can go on :P but yeah you get my point. Tiesto is no longer king, i mean he never really was king but he was quite awesome in his day, same applies to PvD and Armin van Buuren. Produced some epic anthems in their prime, and instead of continuing their legacy, they prefer to make a ton load of $$


Posted by I_Is_Aydin on Feb-17-2010 14:58:

you see lilith its the shit like this that he produces which calls for his fans to turn on him, its a two way stream. if he continues to follow up on his legacy then people will always show up. take the ac dc concert that occured the other week. All they have to do is play a few of their classics and they make a shit load of $$$ they dont come out trying to play some taylor swift shit and expect the crowd to go wild. as for djscitec you are so right those big names are dropping out hard, however i must say i think the world loves AvB for different reasons which is why he is still king of today.

its mostly the fact that he produces music, runs ASOT and is a big name when it comes to any form of trance music. I dont think its his music that makes him popular, more of what he does for the genre and music itself that makes him king.


Posted by Aesthetic on Feb-17-2010 21:48:

yeah.. imo his productions have taken a turn for the worst, a few tracks being exceptions but alot of stuff post 2006 from him I haven't really been that into.. dj sets are good though

quote:
Originally posted by I_Is_Aydin
its mostly the fact that he produces music, runs ASOT and is a big name when it comes to any form of trance music. I dont think its his music that makes him popular, more of what he does for the genre and music itself that makes him king.


Posted by Tranceilvania on Mar-01-2010 11:54:

nowdays I can't listen to trance at all. The other day tried on beatport and it was too much of a pain. One word CHEEEZZZZZZZZZZ.

Underground music still rules my world. So many throbbing tracks and artists comin out lately it's mind boggling. Some Aussie producers like Merkaba, Autonomech, Mollusk, S.E.T.H, Hedonix, ShadowFx, One Tasty Morsel, Tethrameth, Tristan Boyle etc creating wonders with their truly geniune sounds. Try labels like Iboga, Zenon, Neurobiotics, Iono

Just give it a go, sway away from that mainstream BS (I even LOL at JooF)and a world of wonders will reveal itself. I never looked back since 2007.
As far as I'm concerned all that Eurotrash trance can go to hell.

My two cents...


Posted by OkiDokie on Mar-02-2010 14:34:

Glad to hear that not just here we think Tiesto has gone down the hill...
He was good indeed, now is all about the money. Kindda like AVB.

I'm sure in 3 or 4 years we'll be listening to Armin's productions on the radio


Posted by SteveStrangis on Mar-02-2010 14:50:

apprently hes appealing more to his american audience now.. who knows.


Posted by OkiDokie on Mar-02-2010 15:29:

Maybe because there's where the money is


Posted by Aesthetic on Mar-02-2010 22:19:

I thought these guys were making upwards of 70k aud for one gig to a sold out stadium.. that's not enough? lol


Posted by stipsy on Mar-05-2010 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceilvania
Just give it a go, sway away from that mainstream BS (I even LOL at JooF)


i think many would LOL'ing at you.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Mar-05-2010 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by SteveStrangis
apprently hes appealing more to his american audience now.. who knows.


exactly the same thing oakenfold tried - remember starry eyed surprise etc.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OembvT9-k30


it didnt work lol - i dont get why tiesto didnt learn from that (i remember him bagging out oakenfold for going too mainstream and americanised after oakenfold was one of the main guys responsible for tiestos initial success).

then he goes and does :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FThuVI_maAs


really wierd history repeating itself.

but yeah meh - all this mainstream fluffy toy poo and stuff made by producers tryna climb the imaginary armada ladder will probably cave in on itself pretty soon.

luckily there is lots of totally awesome shit coming out everyweek that you just have to dig that little bit deeper for these days


Posted by Ash Parajuli on Mar-06-2010 07:19:

i still think there are some good trance productions out there and a lot of talented producers like PROFF, Myon & Shane54, Gareth Emery, Ashley Wallbridge, Bart Claessen, 7Skies that have put themselves out in the mainstream area and a lot of the times people judge them unfairly because of who they are associated with but it is all about own taste.


Posted by [ groovypants ] on Mar-07-2010 08:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse


then he goes and does :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FThuVI_maAs




woah! sean kingsinton x flo-rida x tiesto collab!

i would have never... ever... imagined this would come about!!!


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