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Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-18-2010 03:52:

Does anyone else agree...

...that maybe we can start loosening up in terms of what gets posted in here?

Z did a hell of a job cleaning it all up...things were out of control a few months ago. Seriously, great job.

Idk, personally I'd like to see certain things allowed to stay in here that really are relevant to the NYC dance scene...

for example...

NYTA djs who want to post mixes
-moving them all to the DJ Promotion forum just guarantees that nobody will get a chance to hear the mix.

Music/DJ articles relevant to NYTA
- For example...the Brad Miller interview that was posted yesterday. It was moved to the music discussion forum where no one seemed to care about it.

Certain party announcements
-There is a big difference between people who have been posting on TA for years making a thread about a great NYC trance party, and someone who registers a name simply to spam their party that no one here cares about. A lot of great and relevant parties are going on, and they just get no attention in the events section.

Anyone else?

Again, not to knock the forum...its been cleaned up in a big way. There just seems to be way less traffic/posting lately.


Posted by kadomony on Feb-18-2010 03:59:

i support your war of terror, zack.


Posted by osterzone on Feb-18-2010 04:05:

According to Euphoria, the reason why swamper moves the stuff around is he wants people to explore different parts of the site. So for example, my interview was moved into the music discussion forum, where others could see it.

But IMO, isn't it the other way around? Most of us come here from searching "trance forum" on the internet and go to the music discussion forum first. Then we branch out into other areas.

That being said though, I don't want annoy Euphoria. This forum (especially this NYC board) has the least flaming/bitching of any forum I've ever seen on the internet, and I'm a bona-fide forum whore.


Posted by chimera66 on Feb-18-2010 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
i support your war of terror, zack.


i second this


Posted by thedevastation on Feb-18-2010 04:36:

im totally DTF.


Posted by BradMiller on Feb-18-2010 04:40:

There was an interview post about me yesterday?? Daaaamn Z's good lol She got to it before I even saw it and I live here :P

I agree though I would like to see these make a comeback -

Local mixes I really miss, along with local articles etc...

I also kinda miss events too to be honest. I do love having them all in one spot to check up on them easily - but it feels like there's just not as much discussion when they're in the events section. Plus with roll calls and the paid events on top it seems like events make their way to this page eventually (which I like since I like to read the discussion on them). Pros and cons though - I guess there really is no way to win there..

That said I love you Z and you are the best mod on the planet Maybe too good lol!


Posted by DOOMBOT on Feb-18-2010 04:42:

I've never come to this forum and thought it needed to be cleaned up in anyway. I always thought that NYTA did a great job in self regulating. To be honest, for as long as I've been posting here, I didn't realize that there ever was an active moderator in this section of the forum.


Posted by The Vza on Feb-18-2010 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
i support your war of terror, zack.


i certainly am down to be a soldier in the zack roth 'bring back certain things that should be allowed to stay on the forum because they are relevant to NYC' army

HOLY SHIT!!! I just noticed my signature was edited cause it was too huge.

fine it can be small, a big sig is obnoxious, fine. but the syracuse basketball shit is getting changed back to being LARGE and in charge


Posted by EliPsE on Feb-18-2010 04:54:

+1 on the posting local mixes. Mine was moved instantly


Posted by eyebegod on Feb-18-2010 04:59:

you can keep chopping down Ravi's sig...shit has got to go


Posted by BradMiller on Feb-18-2010 05:01:

For party announcements maybe we could do something where you have to "earn your stripes" to post an event in the main area? A certain number of posts or overall involvement? We could def still keep the event section so there's somewhere to post for everyone - plus this way it might encourage promoters to become more actively involved with things like reviews etc..

If we do decide to let events back in, I'd really like to see good local parties like Electronic Evolution get a spot on the main forum alongside the big stuff like ASOT.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Feb-18-2010 05:04:

quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
i second this


+1 on the mixes, interviews, and anything relevant to NYC/DC scene...


BUT, I dont mind the events thread at ALL because it condenses all the millions of club posters/promoters/ticket sellers/event info/flyers into one thread.

I totally appreciate this, because I can get all my info in one section with out sorting through a million pages of roll call posts, random conversation, and often, multiple threads on one event It was such a mess on this board before that section, I HOPE it doesnt go




Edit: just because people dont post, doesnt mean they wont LOOK, which is kind of the point of the events section: to get the relevant details. For example, the Andy Moor party has almost 2000 reads.


Posted by BradMiller on Feb-18-2010 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
I dont mind the events thread at ALL because it condenses all the millions of club posters/promoters/ticket sellers/event info/flyers into one thread.

I totally appreciate this, because I can get all my info in one section with out sorting through a million pages of roll call posts, random conversation, and often, multiple threads on one event It was such a mess on this board before that section, I HOPE it doesnt go

Edit: just because people dont post, doesnt mean they wont LOOK, which is kind of the point of the events section: to get the relevant details. For example, the Andy Moor party has almost 2000 reads.



Def see your point and I am willing to concede since I agree - it was a mess beforehand! More than the info though, I like to read what people have to say about events - both before and after. Sometimes I'll pop into event threads I have no intention of going to just to read people's thoughts. I don't know why people have more of a tendency to look and not post in the event section, but at the same time I don't think we should get rid of it altogether either..


Posted by yankeeBaby on Feb-18-2010 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by BradMiller
Def see your point and I am willing to concede since I agree - it was a mess beforehand! More than the info though, I like to read what people have to say about events - both before and after. Sometimes I'll pop into event threads I have no intention of going to just to read people's thoughts.


Agreed!: to be more clear, I would like to *keep* it as such:

-one event thread in event forum with all relevant info/flyers/promoters/ticket and date information

-one random conversation thread previous to event (ie: roll call or ONE pre-event thread in the main forum posted by a NYTA)

-One Review thread



^^This seems to be working and reduces the clutter while serving everyone there needs. They can find important info without hours of searching, yet have plenty of room for discussion and hype in another.


Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-18-2010 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
BUT, I dont mind the events thread at ALL because it condenses all the millions of club posters/promoters/ticket sellers/event info/flyers into one thread.


The events sub-forum is great for a lot of the random parties that promoters want to get the word out about without spamming. I just think certain events really warrant being in the main forum.

Off the top of my head...I am looking through the events sub-forum...The Marcus Schossow night at Cielo is going to be a great party, that I think a lot of TAs would be interested in. But Big Mike posted about it 3 weeks ago, and no one has said anything about it. Nothing...

If that was posted in the main NYTA forum, it would be a 2-3 page thread by now. And I would hardly consider a party like that of the spam nature.


Posted by chimera66 on Feb-18-2010 05:58:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Agreed!: to be more clear, I would like to *keep* it as such:

-one event thread in event forum with all relevant info/flyers/promoters/ticket and date information

-one random conversation thread previous to event (ie: roll call or ONE pre-event thread in the main forum posted by a NYTA)

-One Review thread



^^This seems to be working and reduces the clutter while serving everyone there needs. They can find important info without hours of searching, yet have plenty of room for discussion and hype in another.



that i also second


Posted by JPlay on Feb-18-2010 06:06:

yea, i think ny posts should stay in ny!!!


Posted by yankeeBaby on Feb-18-2010 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
The events sub-forum is great for a lot of the random parties that promoters want to get the word out about without spamming. I just think certain events really warrant being in the main forum.

Off the top of my head...I am looking through the events sub-forum...The Marcus Schossow night at Cielo is going to be a great party, that I think a lot of TAs would be interested in. But Big Mike posted about it 3 weeks ago, and no one has said anything about it. Nothing...

If that was posted in the main NYTA forum, it would be a 2-3 page thread by now. And I would hardly consider a party like that of the spam nature.



I didnt say that it would be spam, I said we should keep the events to three threads as noted above. Nor did I say that events shouldnt be posted on the main forum. I actually made specific note that EACH party should have ONE pre-discussion/hype thread in the main forum for just that purpose!

Also, we can hardly say that certain events warrant anything because that is clearly subjective


Posted by Allure1 on Feb-18-2010 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
+1 on the mixes, interviews, and anything relevant to NYC/DC scene...


BUT, I dont mind the events thread at ALL because it condenses all the millions of club posters/promoters/ticket sellers/event info/flyers into one thread.

I totally appreciate this, because I can get all my info in one section with out sorting through a million pages of roll call posts, random conversation, and often, multiple threads on one event It was such a mess on this board before that section, I HOPE it doesnt go




Edit: just because people dont post, doesnt mean they wont LOOK, which is kind of the point of the events section: to get the relevant details. For example, the Andy Moor party has almost 2000 reads.


Agree completely with this post. BIG +1. Zack thank you for bringing this up.

NYTA mixes should stay here, and I would prefer if they werent moved. Like listening to local talent as well. Events thread though I like the new thing better. Before I used to have to read 10 pages of two people arguing with each other to finally get to the event details.


Posted by bigjimslade002 on Feb-18-2010 06:27:

as a dj i wouldnt mind having my mixes stay in my own thread.thats one of the main things i miss.

and i agree perhaps there should be a way for promoters that have been here for awhile to have a right to post party threads.because even the club i go to is guilty of throwing tons of threads up here when they shouldnt.

9 times out of 10 the so called promoters who post threads here from the club i go to are not members here,know nothing about this site,the people,and honestly not even the edm scene in general.they post here because they see the word "trance" in the title and think its an easy way to get people to show up.i understand peoples need to promote but when your not from a site most times the regulars take notice quick and ignore the thread.


Posted by Allure1 on Feb-18-2010 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Agreed!: to be more clear, I would like to *keep* it as such:

-one event thread in event forum with all relevant info/flyers/promoters/ticket and date information

-one random conversation thread previous to event (ie: roll call or ONE pre-event thread in the main forum posted by a NYTA)

-One Review thread



^^This seems to be working and reduces the clutter while serving everyone there needs. They can find important info without hours of searching, yet have plenty of room for discussion and hype in another.



Well said.


Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-18-2010 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
I didnt say that it would be spam, I said we should keep the events to three threads as noted above. Nor did I say that events shouldnt be posted on the main forum. I actually made specific note that EACH party should have ONE pre-discussion/hype thread in the main forum for just that purpose!

Also, we can hardly say that certain events warrant anything because that is clearly subjective


whoa whoa. I quoted you to start my own thought...I wasn't putting words into your mouth or even disagreeing with you...

My point is, that in an effort to get rid of that spam months ago, some of the legitimately great events that we all used to get souped about, are getting sort of buried in the event sub-forum.

While event quality is subjective, some are just more connected with the TA "scene" than others. For example...

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...forumid=105&s=1


vs.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=553299

The latter has really no bearing on the TA community...I doubt any TAs went, and the guy who posted registered a name for the sole purpose of trying to get people to his party.


Posted by yumpop on Feb-18-2010 07:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Allure1
Agree completely with this post. BIG +1. Zack thank you for bringing this up.

NYTA mixes should stay here, and I would prefer if they werent moved. Like listening to local talent as well. Events thread though I like the new thing better. Before I used to have to read 10 pages of two people arguing with each other to finally get to the event details.


Who are you? You are obviously not a new poster.

Anyway, back to the thread.

I remember last summer it was a mess. Honestly, it is a lot neater now but a little too neat. Yeah, events should be on the event listings but I didn't get to see Brad's thing posted and I would have liked to read it. If it is something that supports local talent, then we should know about it especially since a lot of us go to events for locals to show support. I understand Swamper's perspective but it isn't realistic for people to visit other parts of the board if they aren't familiar with the content.

Other sites to an XP- cross post, where something is posted in two places for visibility and the locations of the XP are mentioned so people can be familiar with other areas of the board. If something like that can be implemented then it is a win win- we have our local talent and info, we also get familiar with areas of the board we didn't know about.

If people aren't participating in the event listing threads, then we only have ourselves to blame. It is a newer area for NY and we need to make it a habit to view and participate in threads. Make it part of your TA routine, view the main and then events, it will build.


Posted by Allure1 on Feb-18-2010 07:34:

quote:
Originally posted by yumpop
Who are you? You are obviously not a new poster.

Anyway, back to the thread.

I remember last summer it was a mess. Honestly, it is a lot neater now but a little too neat. Yeah, events should be on the event listings but I didn't get to see Brad's thing posted and I would have liked to read it. If it is something that supports local talent, then we should know about it especially since a lot of us go to events for locals to show support. I understand Swamper's perspective but it isn't realistic for people to visit other parts of the board if they aren't familiar with the content.

Other sites to an XP- cross post, where something is posted in two places for visibility and the locations of the XP are mentioned so people can be familiar with other areas of the board. If something like that can be implemented then it is a win win- we have our local talent and info, we also get familiar with areas of the board we didn't know about.

If people aren't participating in the event listing threads, then we only have ourselves to blame. It is a newer area for NY and we need to make it a habit to view and participate in threads. Make it part of your TA routine, view the main and then events, it will build.


Does it matter who I am to you? Since you asked I'm one of the many lurkers that visit the site often and just decided to sign up. What a coincidence that you decided to quote me, since you were one of the people that seems to want to pick fights with people and on one of the threads went back and forth with someone. I dont understand what your problem is with people, you sit behind a screen trying to start an argument all the fu*king time.


Posted by yumpop on Feb-18-2010 07:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Allure1
Does it matter who I am to you? Since you asked I'm one of the many lurkers that visit the site often and just decided to sign up. What a coincidence that you decided to quote me, since you were one of the people that seems to want to pick fights with people and on one of the threads went back and forth with someone. I dont understand what your problem is with people, you sit behind a screen trying to start an argument all the fu*king time.


I asked who you were because of your sudden constant participation. You are insignificant for me to pick anything with. Also, I don't sit behind a screen name, I am very active in NY and I can be found where ever there is good music. This discussion isn't about you. I gave Euphoria and Swamper a good suggestion for what they can do based on what has worked for other boards. If you want me to pick a fight with you, go ahead, but just know now that you won't win.


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