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Posted by vmc on Jul-12-2002 20:51:

Can good remixes save a worthless track ?

I've noticed that there are many choons that are really shite but have very good remixes. The track which came up to my mind in this moment is Active X - Let's Go. PVD's TPOD mix is a tune, but I was curious about the original mix, so I've downloaded it and checked it out. It sucked big time. Same with Iio - Rapture. I know it has been discussed a lot before, but for me it was like I've heard the track for the first time in PVD's Knebworth set and omg what a tune! It was the Deep Dish remix. Later I 've heard Riva and AvB rmxes and they were mint. But when I noticed the original mix in the radio it was a horrible crap. So now when I'm in my local club (they usually play dance there) and when the Dj plays it, I quit the dancefloor immediately. I hate the track. But the remixes are still cool.

So what do you think - can good remixes save a worthless track ?

Posted by kurai on Jul-12-2002 20:52:

The Clergy - The Oboe Song ever heard the original? I say: YES!

Posted by tranceDJ on Jul-12-2002 20:52:

PRIME EXAMPLE: 'Vengaboys - Kiss (Airscape Remix)'

Also 'Jam & Spoon - Be.Angeled (Paul van Dyk Remix)'

Posted by Blue. on Jul-12-2002 20:55:

Syntone - Can't Believe It

Posted by torontotrance on Jul-12-2002 20:55:

Vengaboys - Kiss (Airscape Remix) is such an example
Mach 747 - Invading Privately SUcked until 29 palms did a storming remix of it
Kosheen - Hide U, the original sucked.....creamer and k saved it
Jason Downs - Cherokee, the original sucked.....creamer and k remix saved it
New Order - Crystal.....it sucked....lee coombs saved it.

Posted by Eu4ea on Jul-12-2002 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ

Also 'Jam & Spoon - Be.Angeled (Paul van Dyk Remix)'

i thought the original was quite good actually.

I'm very partial to Jam & Spoon in general, started me off on trance.
Stella= CHOON!

I'll say Conductor and Cowboy - Feeling this Way(Solar Stone Remix)

the original is a pile of poo!
the jules mix as well.

Posted by tranceDJ on Jul-12-2002 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Eu4ea_18

i thought the original was quite good actually.

Well...I think many others will agree with me that the original was awful and not to mention cheeeesy.

Posted by GrimReaper on Jul-12-2002 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by kurai
The Clergy - The Oboe Song ever heard the original? I say: YES!

Yes, the original is worthless but Green Martian and Beat Pusher saved it from damnation..

Posted by Seventh City on Jul-12-2002 21:49:

matanka push rmx, prime example

Posted by noonboy on Jul-12-2002 21:58:

i always hated fragma, until swamper put up this last year

fragma - say that you're here (hennes & cold rmx)
this is the only hennes & cold production that has ever impressed me!

and another one:

Barcode Brothers & DJ Alan S - It's A Fine Day (ATB Remix)

so ATB saved this one...doesn't surprise me, some of the ATB tunes always makes you dream

Posted by Blik on Jul-12-2002 22:01:

Cygnus X - Superstring

that song sucks! Rank-1 did some brilliant things with that

Posted by arturob on Jul-12-2002 22:11:

Re: Can good remixes save a worthless track ?

quote:
Originally posted by vmc
I've noticed that there are many choons that are really shite but have very good remixes. The track which came up to my mind in this moment is Active X - Let's Go. PVD's TPOD mix is a tune, but I was curious about the original mix, so I've downloaded it and checked it out. It sucked big time. Same with Iio - Rapture. I know it has been discussed a lot before, but for me it was like I've heard the track for the first time in PVD's Knebworth set and omg what a tune! It was the Deep Dish remix. Later I 've heard Riva and AvB rmxes and they were mint. But when I noticed the original mix in the radio it was a horrible crap. So now when I'm in my local club (they usually play dance there) and when the Dj plays it, I quit the dancefloor immediately. I hate the track. But the remixes are still cool.

So what do you think - can good remixes save a worthless track ?

Paul Reworked 'Vank Mix' of 'Let`s Go' and 'Creamer vs. Stephane Remix' of 'Rapture'.

Many Greetings,

f0x

Posted by Nook on Jul-12-2002 22:15:

sven vath - mind games, i don't like the original, but the dg mix is cool.

same with the clergy bah, but green martian mix is cool.

Posted by icebreaker on Jul-12-2002 22:21:

of course they can
sample given:
dj jamx - keep it that way part2 [dj gert remix]

Posted by zoomp on Jul-12-2002 22:58:

yeap but what about the remixes that fuck the track?
ex.
Misja Helsloot - First Second ( Ralphie B Remix) >>> poor rmx

Posted by Heresy on Jul-12-2002 23:34:

one that comes to mind for me is DJ Dan - That Zipper Track .. Carl Cox definitely pulled that one out of the burning pile of crappiness, and breathed a lot of life into it.

Posted by UWM on Jul-12-2002 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ
PRIME EXAMPLE: 'Vengaboys - Kiss (Airscape Remix)'

First track that came to my mind.

Posted by oDrori on Jul-12-2002 23:51:

IIO - Rapture ...Any remix
Vengaboys - Kiss (Airscape)
DB Boulevard - Point of View (Lange remix)
Cygnus X - The Orange Theme
Push - Universal Nation (Ferry Corsten) also not so good but the original in insuferable IMO...
Safri Duo - Baya Baya (Future Breeze remix)
Desiderio - Starlight (AvB)
Rank 1 - Awakening (Ferry Corsten) don't like the original (or other remixes...
All of them Ayu Trance tracks.
Wippenberg remixes of Ian Van Dahl, Dance Nation and others
Kosheen - Catch (Evilf0z & Corsten) original not bad but the remixes rock
Brooklyn Bounce - Club Bizzare (Scot Project
Beam vs. Cyrus - Thunder in Paradise (Scot Project)

So many more...

Posted by Ocean Wave on Jul-13-2002 00:18:

Scooter "I'm Raving" (DJ Taucher Remix)
Svenson & Gielen "Twisted" (Jacob & Mendez Spanish Dub) - Nice!
Dannii Minogue "All I Wanna Do" (Trouser Enthusiasts Mix)

Posted by starglider on Jul-13-2002 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Wave
Svenson & Gielen "Twisted" (Jacob & Mendez Spanish Dub) - Nice!

Good call, this remix sounds nothing like the original and is easily better.

Furthermore:

Balearic Bill - Destination Sunshine (DJ Tiesto Power Mix)
Ding Fei Fei - Forgotten Moon (Way Out West Dub Mix)
Jon The Dentist vs. Ollie Jaye - Imagination (K90 Remix)
Marc Et Claude - Loving You (Marco V Remix)
Mario Piu - The Vision (Starecase B52 Remix)
Mythos 'N DJ Cosmo - Hymn (Airscape Remix)
SPX - Straight To The Point (Lange Mix)
Xstasia - Sweetness (Michael Woods Remix)

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-13-2002 01:36:

Any Cygnus X track, actually...
the originals sound like the results of 30mins of fooling around with Reason... but the remixes are just.. amazing...

Posted by oDrori on Jul-13-2002 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Ocean Wave
Scooter "I'm Raving" (DJ Taucher Remix)

Argh, I protest (Actually, I think thi remix stunk quite a bit but, hey, each of us and his opinz....)

Posted by Aya Brea on Jul-13-2002 05:00:

Sylver - Turn The Tide (CJ Stone Mix)

actually, all of Sylvers original songs suck ass . But the CJ Stone mix of that song is great.

Posted by sifntj0r on Jul-13-2002 05:41:

Bomfunk Mc's - Live Your Life (Push Transcendental Mix)

i haven't even heard the original, but it's bomfunk mc's so i'd assume its crap, the remix however is quite good.

Posted by laird on Jul-13-2002 07:38:

Blik is joking.

I assume you are, if not them you show an amazing lack of appreciation of superb music, Cygnus X(and all the other Matthias Hoffmann aliases) were absolute quality, then and now.

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