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PreSonus Studio One

Anybody here using this? I didn't think that I was in the market for a new DAW, but I downloaded the demo a while ago on a whim just to see how it compared to other DAWs and I was pretty blown away at how intuitive it is and how efficient its workflow is. Drag/drop for just about everything, keystrokes for every command, clean interface, a very cool Control Link feature for setting up MIDI controllers, stable, very cool Console view, blah, blah, blah,... Best of all, it's got all the power features that you need, but with very little bloat (and I hope it stays that way).

The new 1.5 update will be out soon and will add some fixes and a bunch of nice new features. I'd like to see a few more improvements (better handling of hardware synths, more flexible bus routing, track folders), but none of these are dealbreakers IMO and, like I mentioned, I like the fact that it's not as bloated as Sonar, Cubase, etc. It's lean, but powerful and stable - I threw every CPU hog in my VST folder at it at once and it never even hiccupped. It's made me decide to sell my little-used Cubase 5 license since a dude on KVR sold me his license for dirt cheap, and it's already getting as much use as Sonar is!

If you're in the market for a new DAW, I highly recommend checking it out.

I heard some good things about it as well but not used it yet.

Dave, quick question: do you ro have you used Logic? it would seem like the logical (sorry) choice for what you do? )apart from you're a PC user obviously.

Not to hijack this thread, I just mention it becuase I used sonar years ago then found logic (back at version 5) and logic seemed so much more intuiitve to me apart from the environment (which now isn't an issue).

No, I've actually never used Logic.


My wife can confirm that.

I've seen countless videos though and Logic does look like a great DAW.

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Originally posted by cryophonik No, I've actually never used Logic. My wife can confirm that.

I know only too well what you mean - my GF has had the same opinion for years!

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Originally posted by cryophonik I've seen countless videos though and Logic does look like a great DAW.

It's a shame you can't really give it a shake without ponying up for a mac. It just seems like it would fit you very well......

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I know only too well what you mean - my GF has had the same opinion for years!

Really?! How does your GF know me?

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Originally posted by cryophonik Really?! How does your GF know me?

I tell my Grand Father about everyone on TA. Don't you?

Well this thread took a different turn than expected...


Well, i havent tried studioone that much, but i will give it another chance.

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Originally posted by user19503 word! now im single

What - Dave stole your wife?

I started BETA testing Studio One and now im my full upgrade , The best decision i made to switch from ableton

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Originally posted by cryophonik better handling of hardware synths

doesn't send midi out too well?

I tried it a while ago. I liked the feel and the look of it, but I never got too deep into it. If I keep disliking Ableton I may try switching over.

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Originally posted by TaylorR doesn't send midi out too well?

It sends MIDI CCs out just fine, but it's more a matter of its limitations for supporting hardware. For example, S1 doesn't send SYSEX, RPN, or NRPN, so, depending on the synth, it can be difficult or impossible access/automate some parameters. And it doesn't have anything equivalent to Cakewalk's instrument definitions (.ins) or Steinberg's device maps for calling up your hardware synths' patches/parameters. Hopefully, PreSonus will improve in this area in the near future.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I tried it a while ago. I liked the feel and the look of it, but I never got too deep into it. If I keep disliking Ableton I may try switching over.

It's funny you mention getting "deep" into it, because S1 actually doesn't really feel "deep" to me - it actually feels more like it has a lot of surface area, if that makes sense. Almost everything is right there, or just a click/drag/drop away.

I switched from using Cubase for almost 20 years. Never looked back once.

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LOL, I hate Ableton so much.

[Now audio export fails to work at random times.]

Really tempted to get Studio One.

Go for it. It freed me from a shit load of mouse clicking and technical, non-creative stuff.

It's stable as a mother and creative flow is no longer inhibited by sub-menu in sub-menu in sub-menu. Drag and drop baby!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Really tempted to get Studio One.

Try the demo - it's a full 30-day trial and the only limitation is that Save is disabled. If you watch a few of the videos and read through the quickstart guide you'll be making music in no time. One really cool feature of S1 is the Project view, which is a very cool mastering environment. You can actually set up a CD-ready project in this, and if you decide to go back and make changes to any of your tracks, the master project automatically gets updated without having to re-export the .wavs.

One of the other really cool features of S1 is the Control Link. It automatically maps all of your hardware controllers' CCs. You just open the windows, hit MIDI learn, and start adjusting the controls on your hardware controller. As you do this, each one appears on the screen as a knob with the CC number. You can rename each control to match the parameter name on your controller, and change the controller type (i.e., knob, slider, switch) in the Control Link interface to match your hardware. Then, you can very easily map each of your hardware controllers to every soft synth/effect by just tweaking the hardware controller and software parameter that you want it to control, hit the Link button, and it's locked in for every instance of that same plugin until you change it (yes, even new projects). It blows Novation's AutoMap away IMO because it doesn't require duplicate wrapped .dlls for every synth and, unlike Novation's, this one is stable and not buggy. It's very quick and easy to do - I mapped my Virus' controllers to a few dozen synths and effects plugins in less than an hour and now every time I open one of those synths, my Virus' filter cutoff is routed to the synth's filter control, PWM is routed to the softsynth's PWM, etc.

The only bad news I've discovered so far is that my AlphaTrack doesn't work with S1 and Frontier Designs apparently has no plans to support it at this time. So, I purchased a PreSonus FaderPort (if you don't know me by now, I hate feeling tethered to a mouse when creating music). I like the AlphaTrack much better and it has more features (e.g., the ability to control plugins). Oh well...

All this talk has me curious. They sure make you go through a lot of hoops just to get to the demo for download. Going to check it out here in a little bit.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Try the demo - it's a full 30-day trial and the only limitation is that Save is disabled.

I tried it already and liked it, as noted above.

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Originally posted by cryophonik You can actually set up a CD-ready project in this, and if you decide to go back and make changes to any of your tracks, the master project automatically gets updated without having to re-export the .wavs.

OMFG - You're almost making me feel badly for pulling the trigger on Sonar! That was actually a pipe-dream element of my ideal, super-cool, futuristic DAW I wrote about in a blog post a while back.

For anyone thinking about getting Studio One, Gearslutz had an enormous thread about it that might be helpful:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-...studio-one.html

Bought Studio One Pro five days ago and really loving it so far. Goodbye Ableton!

Tried the demo for a couple of days, really really impressed. Considering switching from Logic.

That's good to hear!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Bought Studio One Pro five days ago and really loving it so far. Goodbye Ableton!

Yeah!

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this program is nice, i was ready to buy it when it come out but, i could not get my hands on a electron deliver so i skip it (I know now that you can get it..) PreSonus Studio One mixing plugins sucks so get your self a packaged from waves to

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