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Beatmatching ?

so how long did it take you guys 2 learn how 2 beatmatch

2 weeks
and alot of fucking beer

I do recall it took around 2 weeks to get things under control on a pioneer CDJ100s system. But it took me a further 6 months or so before I was truly confident and didn't really have to worry thinking about it. And when I first tried vinyl, it took around 20mins to convert over. Then I realised how much easier and interactive it is to mix with vinyl and I was hooked.

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Originally posted by DJ Dowlz I do recall it took around 2 weeks to get things under control on a pioneer CDJ100s system. But it took me a further 6 months or so before I was truly confident and didn't really have to worry thinking about it. And when I first tried vinyl, it took around 20mins to convert over. Then I realised how much easier and interactive it is to mix with vinyl and I was hooked.

the reason why they want to make dj cd players so vinyl feeling....

it's a hard call

u guys learn pritty fast i've been spining 4 about 2 months now n i still can;t get the hang of it

USe just the pitch control to adjust the speed. Untill it's so close you only need to touch the platter to slow it down a bit.

The faster you move the pitch fader around, the better you'll get at hearing where it should be.

Beatmatching about a week. Cueing.... im still learning

Ive been doin it for a about a few weeks now, and my only problem is I get 70% of my tunes beatmatched, and after 20-30 secs they start to drift a little. Thats very annoying, because i do not have that much time left to mix.

They shuddent drift on good tables

either that or there outa phrase, shuddent be drifting too much on good turnatables if they are beatmatched though

If they drift after 20 secs all that means is that they are not "fully" beat matched

it took me about a week to get basic beat matching down. i'm 7 months into it n i still mess up here n there but that's usually when i haven't given myself enough time to catch the beat n try to instead throw it in, ride it and match it in real time while their both in. i'm still working on being able to do that as well as i'd like to get it. i saw Frankie Bones spin a while ago n just watching him..my jaw dropped. he rarely used the headphones, he'd throw a track in without pre-matching the beat n then just use the pitch to catch n ride it.. h wouldn't touch the record OR platter n would barely ever fuck up or drift.. i was like wtf? damn..now thats what you call technique. one day, hopefully, i'll be able to do that.

It took me a while to learn but now after a year it comes very quickly to me! Most times I'll listen to see how long I can ride it for before I mix. If it goes off quick, I know to adjust if not, I'll go with it and adjust when the time comes (if need be).

Just keep practicing, it will come to you!!! Practice is the key!

I've been practicing on and off for about 5 months, I still suck.

6months before i was fully confident

2 years to get it down

3 years and working perfecting it

hey guyz .. i am stil new to the mixing world ... i was wondering how am i going to know that the mix is fully beatmatched ? .. i was reading earlier post that after 20-30 secs its started to drift a little bit .. what does that mean ? .. pliz anybody can tell me about it .. i would be very happy to learn.

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Originally posted by LeVouS i was reading earlier post that after 20-30 secs its started to drift a little bit .. what does that mean ? .. pliz anybody can tell me about it .. i would be very happy to learn

This essentially means that after a little while the beats of the two tracks would go out of phase, meaning they wouldn't match up anymore. This is usually due to inexperience, after a lot of practice beatmatching you get a feel for when two tracks are matched "just right." A little trick that worked for me: if you're using stereo monitoring while mixing (i.e. you hear both tracks at the same time in your headphones), you will notice a change in the beat when the two beats are matched. They will blend into each other and one single beat will emerge. Yeah this might sound really obvious - "Isn't that the whole point dude?" - but it's really a subtle thing to notice, requiring headphones with good isolation (*cough* Sennheiser HD-280 Pro *cough*). Anyway I personally believe this is the most accurate way to beatmatch. It's certainly more accurate than beatmatching while single-ear monitoring, or split monitoring for that matter. Though split-cue works very well too.

over 1 year to learn beatmatching,
and 1 more to get 99,99999999999999999999999999999999% perfect

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Originally posted by Dragon37 over 1 year to learn beatmatching, and 1 more to get 99,99999999999999999999999999999999% perfect

well you never get 99.9999 % precise I don't think so

once you're precise enough I think it's more about the day you're spinning and you're "luck" or "mood" or whatever you call it ;.... cause even pro djs screw up ... at a higher rate then 0.111%

well at least that's the way I see it

well alot of mixers have BPM counters built in these days, i know it takes away part of the DJ's job, but it gives you more time to que, and more time to enjoy the choon, interact with the crowd etc. what do you guys think?!

i've never found them precise enough to count on..that and i think it kinda takes the fun out of it. like riding a bike without having to peddle...you get more time to enjoy the scenery n tdon't get as tired but it's part of the bike riding process.. i know shitty analogy but know what i mean?

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Originally posted by MekTek i've never found them precise enough to count on..that and i think it kinda takes the fun out of it. like riding a bike without having to peddle...you get more time to enjoy the scenery n tdon't get as tired but it's part of the bike riding process.. i know shitty analogy but know what i mean?

Analogy perfectly understood, and I agree 110% with you. After I found out about beat counters, I was like "and people STILL trainwreck?" I can understand if it's by ear, b/c no one is perfect, but damn.

it really bugs me how people keep saying they learned to beatmatch in 2 weeks, just so they can gain some respect on the forums, ugh... you're learning for yourself people, not for others... and if your track goes out of sync after 15 seconds, its certainly not beatmatched

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Originally posted by DJ NEILSON well alot of mixers have BPM counters built in these days, i know it takes away part of the DJ's job, but it gives you more time to que, and more time to enjoy the choon, interact with the crowd etc. what do you guys think?!

i have bpm but it suckz i wanna try 2 learn witout it

In my experience, I've found that BPM counters (such as the one that I have on my Pioneer DJM300) are basically useless. Having two songs within 1bpm of each other just won't cut. You think about it. The songs could be up to 1bpm out - within 10seconds, that's a 1/6th of a beat out, within 30secs, that's 1/2 of a beat out - yuck! To beat match you have to use your ear, not a machine.

Also, I think it's impossible to ever get two songs perfectly at the right tempo. You have to be constantly interacting with the decks (say every 10 seconds or so) to correct minor errors if you want to have absolutely faultless mixing.

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