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i sent a new track to the big labels.
as in Armada, Vandit, Ajuna etc.

Not one of them actually listened to the song..
i put it up on speedyshare and it has not been downloaded ONCE!

Thats shitty when they say yehh we listen to everyone.

MY ASS you do!


rant over.

edit: ill add that it sucks.. you work so hard on tracks because you REALLY want them signed by one of these big labels
- The ultimate goal.
and they dont even listen

I know Anjuna has their own uploader, and they require a text file that's the same name as the MP3 to be uploaded with it with details about the track or they won't download it. So, I'm not sure how you managed to pull that one off.

I'm not sure how the others work. Did you even read their terms? You either blatantly ignored Anjuna's or didn't actually send it to a bunch of big labels, quit getting butthurt over it and send it to other labels if you feel like you're being ignored. Posting here certainly isn't helping anything.

you make it sound like they owe you something.

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Originally posted by Kysora I know Anjuna has their own uploader, and they require a text file that's the same name as the MP3 to be uploaded with it with details about the track or they won't download it. So, I'm not sure how you managed to pull that one off. I'm not sure how the others work. Did you even read their terms? You either blatantly ignored Anjuna's or didn't actually send it to a bunch of big labels, quit getting butthurt over it and send it to other labels if you feel like you're being ignored. Posting here certainly isn't helping anything.

yeh I should have said I didn't know about Ajuna.. because of the uploader..

and your an idiot.. why would I be pissed off at the big labels not downloading and listening to it if I never sent it to them in the first place..

I wanted to vent and see if people had similar experiences. obviously you don't so politely F*** off.

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Originally posted by msz you make it sound like they owe you something.

no all i was saying is that those big labels say we are more than happy for you to send them in we listen to every single one.
but they dont and i dont think that is right when they promote the fact that they do.

That sucks, maybe they dont like speedyshare and the likes.

How long since u sended them ?

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Originally posted by Subtle How long since u sended them ?

I was about to ask the same. Considering the amount of crap that gets sent to i.e. Anjuna in a month, I highly doubt they listen to every single one of them. I think even smaller "labels" such as internet collectives etc. don't listen to all demos that get submitted.

At least for me they all seem so out of reach, I wouldn't even give a try.

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Originally posted by Subtle That sucks, maybe they dont like speedyshare and the likes. How long since u sended them ?

4 weeks. lol

what you rekon try again but with zippy or something ?

Don't most labels say no to download links from these sort of sites, and ask you to upload to them directly?

john,

let's put the problem under a different light for a second.

Some may say that as a label I'm shooting my own foot but I think the exact opposite.

Why don't you just show off people DIRECTLY who you are and what you do musically? You are the person in control, not the label. The time you are talking about is OVER mate. Labels don't rule anything, nothing's under control!

Don't rely on labels anymore for doing this in your place. They either have limited space for promotion and PR or else they don't care about the music and its terrible state right now.

The Internet is the plague and the salvation of the music industry at the same time. Just keep in mind that there are tools you can use at your own advantage, like the ability to remain silent artistically and use all bells and whistles when you have something to sell.

Be creative in how you sell stuff to people and you will see, you will also feel a lot more confident. Forget your fears mate, really, the top 5 artists have nothing more than you do! If you think they do well it's all fake, really.

lolo im in love with your planisphere work!

Like the cliche saying they always say: it's who you know that counts. Luck and your skill have a lot to do with it too, but I do think who you know and who you network with matters a lot. It sucks, but if you want to get heard, you have to bring your non-musical talents to the table to get heard. I hate that part about music, I just want to make songs.

It's a vicious loop too. You want to get heard, but those big labels will only listen to you if you have some type of name, but you don't even have a name yet so you won't get heard. If we look at the micro level, you have had at least one gig before you get a gig. It's like getting a job, to get somewhere, you have had to been somewhere in the first place.

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Originally posted by johncannons1 and your an idiot..

It's spelled you're.


Now you know what irony means.

You know they are massive labels. Surely you must realise the amount of demos they get. Someone's track on Speedyshare won't be very high on their list.

It's just common sense.

Use a soundcloud link. Most labels ignore the 1click hosters like speedyshare, sendspace, and so on...

send a link to every share site there is so they have no excuses

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery You know they are massive labels. Surely you must realise the amount of demos they get. Someone's track on Speedyshare won't be very high on their list. It's just common sense.

Why would that be a common sense?
Sure, they do get alot of tracks, but if they dont specify where to be uploaded (bonzai for example), ppl should be free to upload wherever they want.
Two months ago when i send my demo to flashover, a guy msged me like 3min after, asking for another link cuz he couldnt dl from rapidshare at that moment. So if big label like flashover can do that, everyone can, especially if we consider that if it gets signed they`re going to exploit your work anyhow, so its in their best interest.

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Originally posted by johncannons1 and your an idiot.. why would I be pissed off at the big labels not downloading and listening to it if I never sent it to them in the first place..

I don't think someone who sends Anjuna a link to Speedyshare when they have a very simple direct upload process should be calling me an idiot.

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I wanted to vent and see if people had similar experiences. obviously you don't so politely F*** off.

What, you think I'm signed to Anjuna? I've sent my stuff to labels and I've been ignored. Where our experiences differ is I didn't come here a month after to bitch about it.

I'm really not sure why you're calling me an idiot or telling me to fuck off, either. I didn't sugar-coat my post but I was being civil, there's no reason for you to attack me like that. If you're just going to attack anyone who disagrees with you or what you're doing with your music then you really have no business posting in a forum.

Some A&Rs are not able to do the A&Rs, it means that the thing going shit

and why they don't have to answer ??? it means that they are not seriuos
and they always asking for not send demo to 10 label at the same time...
i have to waste one year of my time to send a demo lol ?? they are busy ??? what they take for an simple auto replay ?? 5 seconds ??

''wow maa friendzz Steve Agnello !!!111oneone send me a new cheesyzzzz suppa Chunezzzz i'll sign it fashooo''

''Who the fuck is this DJ Johncann ?!?!?11 fo sure another crap tune from that ffuuuuu noobish producers, i don't listen it... ''

the most dramatic thing is that they put an info e-mail that thay never open, that is simply ridiculus i send about tons and tons of e-mail NOT DEMO only for asking something (general info) and no one replay me LOL; so: what da fuck they have it ???!!!??!111??

sorry for my crappy language...

I don't trust labels anymore, they just steal your riffs and progressions.
A&B really don't listen, have sent 14 tracks now, never an answer, not even a decline, nothing. That's just plain rude.
So since TuneCore everybody can be a label so uck em!

BTW which agregator dumps on beatport? I went to TuneCore for my album, but still looking for an aggregator to drop some singles on Beatport.

I agree with the OP. It's not a case of whining that the labels aren't listening to his submission, it's the fact that they claim that they do when they obviously don't and it IS annoying to wait for something that likely is never going to happen. I rarely submit songs to labels, but on the few occasions that I've sent them to some of the bigger labels, I've also noticed that my tracks were never downloaded/heard by them. So, what's the point? I don't even bother with them anymore (not that my odds of getting signed by the bigger labels are that great anyway).

I guess my advice would be to go ahead and shop your tracks around to the bigger labels, but don't wait more than a few days for a response before sending it off to a bunch of other labels. In the event that one of the bigger labels decide they're interested after another label signs it, you have at least gotten their attention and possibly a direct line of communication for your next track submission.

Why sign your soul over to these big labels?

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that in many cases Armada artists sign over the right to their alias as well.

You always have the option to apply for www.solarswarm.com, which you could say is part of a big-ish label

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Originally posted by Raphie I don't trust labels anymore, they just steal your riffs and progressions. A&B really don't listen, have sent 14 tracks now, never an answer, not even a decline, nothing. That's just plain rude. So since TuneCore everybody can be a label so uck em! BTW which agregator dumps on beatport? I went to TuneCore for my album, but still looking for an aggregator to drop some singles on Beatport.

Raphie.....

you know I'll put it on BP

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Originally posted by ReclusNdangrmnt Why sign your soul over to these big labels? Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that in many cases Armada artists sign over the right to their alias as well. You always have the option to apply for www.solarswarm.com, which you could say is part of a big-ish label

Armada must have a death clause in their contracts. I'm lucky to get a reply from their artists.

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Originally posted by Raphie I don't trust labels anymore, they just steal your riffs and progressions. A&B really don't listen, have sent 14 tracks now, never an answer, not even a decline, nothing. That's just plain rude. So since TuneCore everybody can be a label so uck em! BTW which agregator dumps on beatport? I went to TuneCore for my album, but still looking for an aggregator to drop some singles on Beatport.

Beatport is totally different from the rest because they want to see quality or a name, or at least the image of one. So once you get on an aggregator, have a business plan, maybe 2-3 releases planned with possible remixes, artwork, tell them how you'll market and promote, tell them WHO supported your songs, etc, only then will they consider you. You might have to be on the smaller sites first before anything.

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