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Does anyone have any tips on Funky House production?
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I've always been a big Funky/French House fan (Daft Punk's Discovery was my first electronic album, period), but I never tried producing it until these past couple of days. I have a chord progression, a pretty nice beat, and I'm working on a bassline, but I'm still not really sure where to go. I'm taking a lot of inspiration from some of the FL Studio example projects, but I'd still like your advice.
So, anyone who has any advice on making Funky/French House, whether it's sound design, composition, arrangement, etc., what've you got for me?
And yes, I know what side-chaining is. No need to tell me.
sampling! forget about synthesis.
I actually would totally go the sampling route (I've been told by my gearhead cousin that my piece of crap guitar is actually perfect for funk), but I have a distinct lack of recording equipment and an even more distinct lack of money, so the only way to record is to route my guitar straight into my PC. And I don't have a mic to record anything else.
On the other hand, I've been thinking that a mic is probably a good investment to make at some point (all I've got is a crappy 15 dollar mic from Staples).
My first and only attempt at it. Was a remix for a hard trance tune I did.
2004BIGBANGREMIX np3 by Mad For Brad
I think the bassline is key. Use of certain chords and sounds. The progressions are not that different from regular trance but the focus will be more on a minor pentatonic scale rather than a minor scale. No samples used but I will admit it does sound quite dated compared to the cutting techniques and heavy compression they starting doing in the last few years.
if you're going for the daft punk sound then the sampling/stealing route should work out well for you, you could even wear a mask if you ever get famous.
Whoa that reminds me of Streets Of Rage 2's (video game) score somehow. It is brilliant.
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| Originally posted by asdfg if you're going for the daft punk sound then the sampling/stealing route should work out well for you, you could even wear a mask if you ever get famous. |
brad, your melody reminds me a lot of john graham from his beginning. are you familiar with his work, hes a legend.
this is from 1994.
pretty sure quincy jones , George Clinton. Rick Hames was doing that moog wiggle lead a decade earlier. Early house just ripped off those musicians but did it badly with no soul. No i'm not familiar with that guy and he definitely isn't a legend and that song licks in a bad way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Dr...feature=related
from 1982. Kinda makes you realize how irrelevant early EDM was. Well most of it.
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| Originally posted by MSZ brad, your melody reminds me a lot of john graham from his beginning. are you familiar with his work, hes a legend. this is from 1994. |
Alright, after a while tweaking, here's an incomplete WIP of my first try.
http://soundcloud.com/dj-g-ram-1/superfunk_wip
It's still VERY rough and needs plenty of work - and a proper song structure - but I'm still pretty proud of it. The bassline actually took the longest. I spent a good chunk of this morning coming up with this lengthy, complex bass riff before realizing it sucked and made something far simpler (and better).
The next step is to come up with a couple of good melodies to use, and then factor them in while trying to fill the spaces in between with all sorts of sound FX, but before I go ahead, I'd like some advice on what I've already got. Thanks.
And please, pardon the awful title.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgsd...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahfm...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x6bVntcdJ4
for bass, they all used trilogy so get Trillian and combine a slapped bass with a synth one.
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| Originally posted by Mad for Brad No i'm not familiar with that guy and he definitely isn't a legend and that song licks in a bad way. |
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| Originally posted by MSZ i guess you're right, because your song is pretty bad. to each their own. |
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| Originally posted by MSZ i guess you're right, because your song is pretty bad. to each their own. |
here you go OP
who's bringin' the funk? or am i just living in the past? < Link
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| Originally posted by Mad for Brad I take that as a compliment from someone that thinks that track was worth even listening to.And the OP asked about funky house. THere is absolutely no funk in anything quiver does. Everything is quantized to straight 16ths. Just awful. |
Let's cast our asses into some plast. We're all fucking legend.
Pleasure - Selim
Bob James - Sign Of The Times
MSZ, you're drunk, and so fucking true as it is, so am I.
Considering MFB's track, it is rather funky, as 10 % of us whitey's can even tell the difference between funk, soul and jazz, fuck this.
And IMO, what comes to saying what is funk soul house or what the fuck. I didn't read the thread. Excuse me, I'm drunk.
I mean wtf niggehs (britishly pronounced), funk house or wtf was it? Seriously shit, it ain't even true.
I've been waiting for a genre pop-up named something like "house rap", but then I thought; fuck, it's been all over the place from the beginning. Shit so absuurd, niggaaaaaahhh...
And I'm really sorry I have nothing more to say to the OP 
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| Originally posted by JEO And I'm really sorry I have nothing more to say to the OP |
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| Originally posted by Notle You got nerve to put your shitty track here and mock others. Jeez what a jerk. Dont take this as a compliment but i dont like you. |
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| Originally posted by Mad for Brad You think I honestly give a fuck what you think. |
because I was giving my take on what makes a song funky in both words and music to explain what I mean by words. Just like if I was talking about the night I banged palm's sister, i'd put a photo just to add some context.
Now there's a scary mental image.
Well, I'm not an expert in funky house, but I spent much of my life playing bass in a variety of actual funk bands, so I think I can offer some advice. Funk relies heavily on groove and the major elements include (1) a solid backbeat, (2) syncopated percussion (e.g., hihats, congas, bongos, etc.), and (3) a groovy bass line played with feel. By backbeat, I mean the even-numbered beats (2 and 4), which are typically emphasized in funk. Even if you're using a 4/floor kick pattern, you should try to emphasize the second and fourth beats a bit more as your frame of reference, rather than the kick drum; this will help your groove lay back a bit, rather than pushing the beat. That said, think about using something funkier than 4/floor kicks for funky house, as well as offbeat claps/snares, ghost notes, etc. to add some groove.
Too many funky house tracks these days lose the groove by hard-quantizing everything and levelling out the volumes and velocities, which is exactly what you should NOT be doing if you want some funk in your junk. Play/sequence the part with feel, slightly behind the beat, with varying dynamics that accentuate the off-beat parts. Think like a bassist when coming up with your bass lines - most funk bass lines generally tend to combine a fluid/legato main groove with staccato/percussive hits (pops/slaps) an octave above the main groove note at off-beat syncopated intervals. Most importantly, listen to some actual old-school funk as done by the masters (e.g., the ones that M4B mentioned earlier).
Again, these are just my random suggestions from a funk bassist's POV, not an expert in funky house per se, so take it for what it's worth.
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