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Posted by heisenberg on Sep-18-2010 13:15:

Armin van Buuren Forecasts- Trance/Rap Crossover

WTF? He is like retarded?

quote:
With French house superstar David Guetta making it fashionable for pop stars to jack some club cred and even Rusko taking dubstep to Britney Spears� front door it was only a matter of time until other dance sub genres took notice and made moves towards some mainstream crossovers . And according to the one and only Armin van Buuren that time has come for the trance scene. (*gulp*)

Having already courted former Ms. Groovejet herself, Sophie Ellis-Bextor for his latest LP, Mirage, Armin reckons that trance is making some gradual moves towards the spotlight of the mainstream, and who knows what will follow.

�Guetta�s success proves we were right,� the Armin Only maestro told The Herald Sun in a particularly amusing interview where the paper described his sound as �techno�. �Hip-hop hasn�t jumped on trance yet. But it raises the possibility of corporate sponsorship. If you want to do something big in America, you need money. Corporate sponsorship is available for hip-hop because it�s so popular. So, a crossover may open the doors for trance.�

That�s a big call, but Armin has big expectations for a future trance boom offering that �if you�re open minded it will happen. I�m sure we�ll see Snoop Dogg and Sander Van Doorn very soon. It will be an interesting time.��


http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/int...erap_crossovers


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-18-2010 15:04:

Re: Armin van Buuren Forecasts- Trance/Rap Crossover

quote:
Originally posted by heisenberg
WTF? He is like retarded?



http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/int...erap_crossovers
It's already been done.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Sep-18-2010 15:19:

It will go over like P Diddy in Ibiza.

And Mr. Mystery is right of course- it's already been done a hundred ways before, in years past. A great deal of modern hip-hop is derivative of rave music in the first place, and has been for some time now. I foresee abyssmal crossovers from the Armin camp that end up blowing up in his face because they're so fucking mishandled- and then he'll simply chalk it off to the notion that other people just weren't ready to be open-minded enough. In actuality, the fusion of genres has largely always been up to new producers and acts, and people like Armin are obviously old fucking news.


Posted by IceColdWater on Sep-18-2010 15:21:

You know what happens when they tried to mix classical with some fast moving beats , along with some JP8000s?


They got this.




And what will happen if they try to mix that with rap?

I don't know , honestly.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Sep-18-2010 15:23:

Rap is the pinnacle of lyric. Trance is mastery of melody. Together, a synergy of hard truth, forged in the fires of real world credibility and fantasy wrapped in blankets of ethereal clouds and synth. It is coming. You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet. - Kafka


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Sep-18-2010 15:23:

Well if you knew, I don't think it'd be particularly smart of you to share until you had an actual product.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Sep-18-2010 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by couch-potato
Rap is the pinnacle of lyric. Trance is mastery of melody. Together, a synergy of hard truth, forged in the fires of real world credibility and fantasy wrapped in blankets of ethereal clouds and synth. It is coming. You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet. - Kafka


Rap is the pinnacle of lyric. Trance is mastery of melody. Together, a synergy of hard truth, forged in the fires of real world credibility and fantasy wrapped in blankets of ethereal clouds and synth. It is coming. You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet. - Omar


Posted by yourma2000 on Sep-18-2010 15:58:

Alot of people are forgetting about a group that brings rap & trance/electronic together...Faithless, although people like snoop dogg would be a commercial curse on trance, you have to make an exception for rappers like Maxi Jazz for bring tracks like Insomnia, God is a DJ, Not Going Home, Salva Mea etc to life


Posted by Rodri Santos on Sep-18-2010 16:33:

Tiesto & Three 6 mafia.... one of the worst tracks this year. I can't see gangster vocals on a trance track... and he is so stupid and inocent if he thinks that with just one track will get more gigs in the US. I can't see neither a rap gang in a trance festival lol.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-18-2010 17:00:

Trance + rap = trap?


Posted by infiniteJEST on Sep-18-2010 17:27:

son, i am disappoint


Posted by JEO on Sep-18-2010 17:29:



baguette et le rap


Posted by KilldaDJ on Sep-18-2010 17:45:

trap hop


Posted by osterzone on Sep-18-2010 18:11:

If you guys are going to go 4chan on this place and post random images and idiotic one-liners, at least try to be funny. The last three posters accomplished nothing but the ability to come off as stupid...

As for the topic, what Armin doesn't get is that the USA doesn't really know what trance is. If you played them a trance song, I bet 9 out of every 10 people would say it's techno.


Posted by Chimney on Sep-18-2010 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone
The last three posters accomplished nothing but the ability to come off as stupid...


Yes, because this was never the case with you.

quote:
USA doesn't really know what trance is. If you played them a trance song, I bet 9 out of every 10 people would say it's techno.


Same shit in Europe.


Posted by Trance-M on Sep-18-2010 18:51:

KLF?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-18-2010 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone
If you guys are going to go 4chan on this place and post random images and idiotic one-liners, at least try to be funny. The last three posters accomplished nothing but the ability to come off as stupid...

Story of your life, eh?


Posted by hasbone on Sep-18-2010 20:14:

looking forward to more

the tiesto + 3 6 mafia track was great


Posted by RapidFire on Sep-18-2010 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by yourma2000
Alot of people are forgetting about a group that brings rap & trance/electronic together...Faithless, although people like snoop dogg would be a commercial curse on trance, you have to make an exception for rappers like Maxi Jazz for bring tracks like Insomnia, God is a DJ, Not Going Home, Salva Mea etc to life


amen. maxi jazz has been doing it since the early 90s and he blows those mainstream rappers out of the water


Posted by netroM on Sep-18-2010 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
amen. maxi jazz has been doing it since the early 90s and he blows those mainstream rappers out of the water

KLF did it in the 80s, as Trance-MB pointed out.


Posted by RapidFire on Sep-18-2010 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by netroM
KLF did it in the 80s, as Trance-MB pointed out.


missed that post but yeah there's another great example. it wouldn't be anything revolutionary.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Sep-18-2010 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone
If you guys are going to go 4chan on this place and post random images and idiotic one-liners, at least try to be funny. The last three posters accomplished nothing but the ability to come off as stupid...

As for the topic, what Armin doesn't get is that the USA doesn't really know what trance is. If you played them a trance song, I bet 9 out of every 10 people would say it's techno.


If they like that "techno" would still be great, most people don't care if the track is progressive trance, uplifting trance or tech trance, they like it or they don't like it so would be the same,


Posted by Kris G on Sep-19-2010 07:28:

Euro-dance? I'm sure I remember synths and MC's together a lot back in the day. It's pretty obvious if you listen to the radio in LA that the US producers are copying 90's dance and sampling it as much as possible, so it's only a matter of time before we get a true cross-over... again. And it will suck.


Posted by Fledz on Sep-19-2010 08:22:

Listen to a bunch of the most popular, mainstream RnB tracks. They have synthesisers and EDM production values all over them. How has this not already been happening for the past decade?


Posted by pointPi on Sep-19-2010 17:46:

Is it just me, or does it seems that Dutchman A and Dutchman T will make a KLF-ish act together in the near future?


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