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Posted by igottaknow on Dec-31-2010 17:38:

Champagne Recommendations

I got to pick up a bottle for tonight. My price range is $10-15
I remember someone saying Cava is an inexpensive alternative. Brands?


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Dec-31-2010 17:40:

lol.

with your budget you will get the canned stuff

trying to impress i see


Posted by shaw on Dec-31-2010 17:41:

Re: Champagne Recommendations

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
My price range is $10-15


you'd be better off drinking perrier and pbr.


Posted by igottaknow on Dec-31-2010 17:44:

I'd rather spend my money on the food. Just as long as its not complete shit it ok with me. I could care less whether you are impressed.


Posted by Renzo on Dec-31-2010 17:46:

A quick Google search yielded this: http://weddings.about.com/od/weddin...apchampagne.htm

That might help. Wear a rubber tonight, IGK. You don't know where the whore has been.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Dec-31-2010 17:49:

this isn't exactly champagne...but as someone who has enjoyed this before, for the price you will get quality vs money.

cheap champagne is really hard to enjoy because with champagne you really get what you pay for....a mousseux is close enough to champagne that you can substitute. People that don't know wine will barely tell the difference, and people that do know wine will at least enjoy this selection imo more than cheap skunk champagne like the cavas.

what are you eating?
http://www.saq.com/webapp/wcs/store...e=#observations


Posted by shaw on Dec-31-2010 17:50:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I'd



Posted by igottaknow on Dec-31-2010 17:52:

Sockeye Salmon in a Mango marinade

I'll give the sparkling wine a try.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Dec-31-2010 17:58:

the mousseux i suggested pairs well with seafood...but the mango kinda throws me off. I have not tried it with fruity food.

My guess is that you want to keep it on the dry side and get a bubbly with at least a 50% pinot noir in the blend. You can use google and try and find one that will pair well with mango. Dry pinot based products should always suit the fish well.

You can also find a fuckload of this stuff in your price range. Don't forget that most of these mousseux's are essentially the same thing as Champagne, minus the fact that they are produced outside of the Champagne region making them ineligible to be called such.

You could probably even get away with a sweet riesling.


Posted by shaw on Dec-31-2010 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
this isn't exactly champagne...but as someone who has enjoyed this before, for the price you will get quality vs money.

cheap champagne is really hard to enjoy because with champagne you really get what you pay for....a mousseux is close enough to champagne that you can substitute. People that don't know wine will barely tell the difference, and people that do know wine will at least enjoy this selection imo more than cheap skunk champagne like the cavas.


Good call. igk, the reason for my post is that cheap champagne (and 10-15 bucks is cheap) is much worse than other cheap alcohol. It might even be the worst. Why? I don't know enough to explain it properly. It's kind of like buying a $2 screwdriver or a $50 drill; the two products are equally inexpensive, but while the former is, despite being less-than-ideal, still serviceable, the drill will be completely useless.

quote:
Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
You could probably even get away with a sweet riesling.


with salmon? gross.


Posted by Renzo on Dec-31-2010 18:02:

Uh-oh, shaw is talking down to us.

Uh-oh.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Dec-31-2010 18:03:

it can work. Don't forget that mango is a very powerful flavour. With sweet food you go either really dry, or you can go light and sweet.


Posted by shaw on Dec-31-2010 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Renzo
Uh-oh, shaw is talking down to us.

Uh-oh.


I get my turn every once in a while.


Posted by shaw on Dec-31-2010 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
it can work. Don't forget that mango is a very powerful flavour. With sweet food you go either really dry, or you can go light and sweet.


I don't think of salmon as terribly sweet, and most riesling would just clash horribly imo.


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Dec-31-2010 18:07:

get over the salmon and think mango.



you marinate a piece of salmon in fruit...it will taste like any other fish that is marinated in fruit


Posted by shaw on Dec-31-2010 18:09:

salmon is its own breed, with regard to pairings.

igk, basic question: disregarding food, red or white?

edit: I completely missed the marinade part. my point still stands...just not quite as strongly. you can have your fucking pulpit back, renzo!


Posted by Ian on Dec-31-2010 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I could care less whether you are impressed.



You could? Awesome, please do!


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Dec-31-2010 18:28:

http://www.slashfood.com/2009/05/29...-bernadins-ald/



juss saying

i'm not the wine expert of our duo anyways...i do food, she does booze. Being a foodie is way easier than being really into wine. That being said, snobby alcoholics can always teach you a thing or 2


quote:
We asked you to pair five wines under $25 with grilled salmon (see our list below). Of the wines that you have chosen to pair with grilled salmon, which is the safest bet?

I would go with the Riesling. Riesling and salmon work well together. Salmon is a little bit of a fatty fish and for fat you need a little acidity.

Read more: http://www.slashfood.com/2009/05/29/ask-a-sommelier-grilled-salmon-and-wine-with-le-bernadins-ald/#ixzz19iPK8xg2


Posted by shaw on Dec-31-2010 18:38:

I should mention that I am not a fan of fruity wine, in general, so I certainly have a bias (unless exceptionally dry, like some barolos) but really? So gross.


Posted by shaw on Dec-31-2010 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
That being said, snobby alcoholics can always teach you a thing or 2


Absolutely. I'm still very new to it, in terms of sheer quantity, but I do have a pretty clear idea of what I prefer and feel works.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Dec-31-2010 18:46:



$9.00...and it will get you just as drunk as the $200.00 bottles


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Dec-31-2010 18:55:

oddly enough, it is called "GRUET" because that is the sound you make when it comes back up


Posted by Zyklon_Jay on Dec-31-2010 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by shaw
Good call. igk, the reason for my post is that cheap champagne (and 10-15 bucks is cheap) is much worse than other cheap alcohol. It might even be the worst. Why? I don't know enough to explain it properly.



part of the reason is the "Champagne" tag itself. People tend to view this as a badge of quality, but simply being in the right area does not guarantee a good product. People get duped by the name, and as we all know branding works well here. The cheap stuff is horribly overpriced, and is of the Baby Duck variety on the quality scale.

Even some of the more expensive Champagnes can be atrocious. Champagne is definitely the hooch you can fuck up with the most by far...not to mention the chance of getting a spoiled bottle is higher than with normal wines. There is nothing more horrid in the world than semi flat champagne. It tastes like crab piss.


Posted by Watts on Dec-31-2010 19:12:

Bottle of Andre:


Posted by Acton on Dec-31-2010 19:28:

I'm in my hotel room getting ready to go out and drinking a nice bottle of Bollinger. It cost about �50, but it's worth the extra


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