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Posted by d-miurge on Jan-11-2011 01:42:

Ballon d'Or 2010

... goes to Messi. It's sad for Xavi but it is an individual award after all.



The vote of van bommel kills me:

quote:
Van Bommel Mark - invalid vote - invalid vote - Schweinsteiger Bastian



Posted by Comrade Stalin on Jan-11-2011 02:08:

20 views and no responses. I can see why.


Posted by d-miurge on Jan-11-2011 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
20 views and no responses. I can see why.


You are really imperialist for a commie...

(or you are simply just a ****)


Posted by OkiDokie on Jan-11-2011 03:02:

I prefer Messi over the other 2


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Jan-11-2011 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by d-miurge
You are really imperialist for a commie...

(or you are simply just a ****)


Imperialist? No. I am leading the dictatorship of the proletariat; the world revolution of the oppressed workers against the money hungry capitalist swine and their thieving ilk.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Jan-11-2011 03:21:

^^ he also authored War & Peace, despite never mentioning it


Posted by Intuition on Jan-11-2011 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by infiniteJEST
War & Peace


"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..." (10 points for the first person who identifies who's misquote this was).

And although I expected Xavi to win, Messi's goal haul made him an equally valid candidate for the award.


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Jan-11-2011 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by infiniteJEST
^^ he also authored War & Peace, despite never mentioning it


Leo Tolstoy?


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jan-11-2011 08:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Intuition
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..." (10 points for the first person who identifies who's misquote this was).

And although I expected Xavi to win, Messi's goal haul made him an equally valid candidate for the award.



Was it someone running for the RNC chair?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-11-2011 12:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Intuition
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..." (10 points for the first person who identifies who's misquote this was).

And although I expected Xavi to win, Messi's goal haul made him an equally valid candidate for the award.


It's the opening line of A Tale Of Two Cities by Charles Dickens.

And I'm glad Messi won, despite FIFA's inevitable hype-mongering over the World Cup. He's clearly the best player in the world.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Jan-11-2011 13:54:

I'm a messi fan while he plays for Barca, however, I wouldn't quite go as far as saying he's the best player in the world. Iniesta and Xavi equally deserved this but Messi has a greater world influence and is loved more so then Iniesta, Xavi, Sneijder, Kaka, and the likes of some of great players around the world. Messi is doing so much for world awareness that it's only fitting for him to receive an iconic award. I don't hear much about the others outside of the pitch.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-11-2011 14:09:

Iniesta and Xavi are undoubtedly great players, but neither of them could score 40+ goals in a season. Scoring goals is the hardest skill in football and it's goals that win games. I think Messi could probably do everything Xavi and Iniesta can do - he's a Barca youth product and he's just as fluent in the art of passing and moving. He's also capable of providing fantastic assists, as he showed in the recent Clasico. Messi could play in midfield in those roles, but Xavi and Iniesta couldn't play his role.


Posted by Meat187 on Jan-11-2011 14:17:

I never follow the Spanish league (or any other for that matter) but Messi sucked balls at the world cup.


Posted by noikeee on Jan-11-2011 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I never follow the Spanish league (or any other for that matter) but Messi sucked balls at the world cup.


No he didn't, did fail to score a goal but was often the most dangerous man on the pitch in the games he played. He suffered from having to play a role that didn't suit him in a very badly organized team.

I'm glad he won although I can see the case for Xavi as well. Really had to be either of them.


Posted by bananas on Jan-11-2011 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Iniesta and Xavi are undoubtedly great players, but neither of them could score 40+ goals in a season. Scoring goals is the hardest skill in football and it's goals that win games. I think Messi could probably do everything Xavi and Iniesta can do - he's a Barca youth product and he's just as fluent in the art of passing and moving. He's also capable of providing fantastic assists, as he showed in the recent Clasico. Messi could play in midfield in those roles, but Xavi and Iniesta couldn't play his role.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-12-2011 00:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I never follow the Spanish league (or any other for that matter) but Messi sucked balls at the world cup.


You know as little about football as you do about most other things.


Posted by d-miurge on Jan-12-2011 00:35:

Messi's influence on one of the best team in history is incredible for a winger (now more a false nine).
It's hard for me to say that but even Zidane had not as many impact as Messi (on an entire season, Zidane scored 3 goals in 2 WC finals).


Posted by Meat187 on Jan-12-2011 08:26:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You know as little about football as you do about most other things.


Since you're not even trying to argue that his performance at the WC was anywhere near impressive or deserving such an award I'm guessing that this is just your usual way of being a gigantic bitter twat that is unable to accept any differing opinion. Way to go!


Posted by Fledz on Jan-12-2011 08:29:

Xavi and Iniesta are fantastic players but without a good team they can totally disappear. Messi on the other hand doesn't need anyone around him.

That's the difference.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-12-2011 13:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Since you're not even trying to argue that his performance at the WC was anywhere near impressive or deserving such an award I'm guessing that this is just your usual way of being a gigantic bitter twat that is unable to accept any differing opinion. Way to go!


You mean like you're not even trying to present an argument as to why Messi "sucked balls" at the World Cup? When I see the slightest bit of evidence that you're capable of analysing a football match, I'll provide a similarly worthwhile response.


Posted by Meat187 on Jan-12-2011 16:10:

Sure, just give me a few hours to re-watch all of his games and make detailed notes.

Meanwhile let me point out that I meant "sucked balls" for world class player standards (should be clear from the context) and post this video showing all of his goals and I believe also assists:


Posted by WittyHandle on Jan-12-2011 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Intuition
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..." (10 points for the first person who identifies who's misquote this was).


Michael Steele.

Do I have enough points to get that purple stuffed chicken over there?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-12-2011 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Meanwhile let me point out that I meant "sucked balls" for world class player standards (should be clear from the context) and post this video showing all of his goals and I believe also assists:


Since he was in my Fantasy Football team I know very well that he had several assists at the World Cup, which speaks volumes about just how much attention you were paying. He also got a MOTM award, came up against some heavy man-marking, hit the post and was denied by some superb goalkeeping. This despite being part of a team managed by a buffoon and lacking any real tactics.

A lot of world class players underperformed at the World Cup, but most people who understand football will agree that Messi was extremely unfortunate not to score, and still highly influential in every game save the 4-0 mauling against Germany. The collective superstars of the England, France and Italian teams "sucked ass". Messi was merely unlucky.


Posted by Intuition on Jan-12-2011 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by WittyHandle
Michael Steele.

Do I have enough points to get that purple stuffed chicken over there?


Ding ding ding!

I'm loving Mourinho's approach to try and stir up shit in the Barcelona camp by saying that he "feels sorry" for Xavi. And if you don't watch or know anything about La Liga, you really are depriving yourself of the true nature of the beautiful game.


Posted by Meat187 on Jan-12-2011 18:27:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know very well that he had several assists at the World Cup


According to http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-...10&type=assists it was just one.

And according to the Castrol index, which claims to be an "objectively analysed rankings system" he is ranked only 3rd among the Argentine team, 11th among forwards and 54th overall. And that's not because all those other players were just a little more lucky. A lot of them were simply better.

see here: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archiv...strolindex.html

Nice try anyway, now go and troll someplace else. I know I will.


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