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How does this kick sound? Think I finally got that pro sounding low end.
Disregard the bassline as it still needs a lot of work to make it move better (and percussions too its just a loop). But I put it in there just to show how well the kick comes through.
I know the kick is likely overpowering the mix but it needs to be that way for when I add a sub at which point I'll mix it down so it doesn't swallow the sub completely. Its 2 samples layered, but most of my kicks don't even come close to this one in terms of loudness/presence.
I like it a lot and it also seems to work great with different basslines and keys. Like it just works really well for some reason. I need an objective ear though does it sound professional? Even in the begining when its hipassed it has somewhat of a low end, then after bar 16 you can feel it slam when the filter is cut out.
KICK WIP by user2983496
missing a whole bunch of mid lows and that whole tail business is really 2003 ish
sounds like the kick in Universal Nation.
I like it. Unsurprisingly your .flp showed up as corrupted though, I guess FL8 just can't open later files like these.
I may toy around with the samples you gave me though, it sounds like it has potential.
LOL sounds like crap, hahaha
Yeh I had told Ky last night the only thing I didn't like was the tail so I definitely plan on getting rid of it.
Thats good advice about the mid/low end exactly what I was looking for. My main focus was the low end & attack phase so I'll take a better look at the mids now.
And orphanchild you jealous bitch, go back to sticking your cock in the analog ins of your new JP aka cheesemachine. It makes a phatter sound I promise.
Re: How does this kick sound? Think I finally got that pro sounding low end.
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| Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Disregard the bassline as it still needs a lot of work to make it move better (and percussions too its just a loop). But I put it in there just to show how well the kick comes through. I know the kick is likely overpowering the mix but it needs to be that way for when I add a sub at which point I'll mix it down so it doesn't swallow the sub completely. Its 2 samples layered, but most of my kicks don't even come close to this one in terms of loudness/presence. I like it a lot and it also seems to work great with different basslines and keys. Like it just works really well for some reason. I need an objective ear though does it sound professional? Even in the begining when its hipassed it has somewhat of a low end, then after bar 16 you can feel it slam when the filter is cut out. KICK WIP by user2983496 |
I think its a good kickdrum.
Speaking of kicks, i have just made the kickdrum of my life.
Bestkick by subtle
(@BeatFlux) I guess you could say that yeh. But I tend to model artists who have mastered the fm bassline and tyas seems to prefer the phased out saw basslines which I despise.
Its just a copout tactic to make a bass move imo. He even said it in his FM interview when he had a boring/static sounding bass and said "ok now we're going to throw a phaser over the bassline to give it some movement". But the problem is he ALWAYS fucking does that. And it ruins his tracks imo.
Eventually when I learn how to make my basses really move (I'm not talking about in your face bouncing but more that static type of instablity like you hear in Bluemans - Sea Tides) then I'm going to start introducing some more tribal sounds in my intros. It will be a weird blend eventually of tribal drums/fm styled bass/and massive breaks. Although I don't want that clean and epic orchestral sound at all. I'm much more into dirtier/distorted sounds. Anytime I mention Blueman its in direct reference to his fm bass, not his violins/melodies and what not. My "style" likely won't reveal itself for another 5 years or so. At least in the context of a completed track. I just got to much shit to learn still.
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| Originally posted by Subtle I think its a good kickdrum. Speaking of kicks, i have just made the kickdrum of my life. Bestkick by subtle |
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| Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Thanks, are you layering your kicks or no? Yours has a nice clean punch to it but I like mine to have a more unforgiving low end. Like I need to know that even at a low level and before processing that no sound is going to try dominating it. The one you posted has a similar dynamic to the oompa loompa kick lol. |
In my opinion its alright. I think you should eq some more bass into it, it sounds a bit dry, but it defiantly has that club-banging in your face trance feel.
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| Originally posted by Subtle Yeah thought that this was pretty nice myself. I prefer not to layer. oompa loompa, what kind of kick is that ? |
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| Originally posted by Subtle I think its a good kickdrum. Speaking of kicks, i have just made the kickdrum of my life. |
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| Originally posted by Subtle I think its a good kickdrum. Speaking of kicks, i have just made the kickdrum of my life. Bestkick by subtle |
That kick sounds good to me, Richard.
One trick that I thought I had already mentioned here, but apparently didn't is to use a low-pass filter instead of (or in addition to) an EQ to shape your kick sound. You can get much more dramatic results this way. Insert a good filter plugin (e.g., Volcano 2, Filter Freak, FilterBank 3, etc.) directly into the kick channel (or kick buss, if you're layering several kicks by bussing) and set it to a low-pass filter setting. You might want to drop the channel level a few dB to start to avoid clipping. Start with a moderate slope and some resonance and experiment. Use the mix (dry/wet) settings to blend the original with the filtered kick. I find that it's not a good idea to go more than 60% wet because you'll lose the click etc. on the high end of the original sample. I tend to go somewhere between 70/30 - 50/50 (dry/wet). By boosting the cutoff frequency a few notches with the resonance setting and sweeping around the low end, trying different slope settings, etc. you can dramatically reshape the sound of the kick drum, add more punch, etc.
Hehe, 'stealing' good kicks off tracks is way more time-saving than spending hours on making one from scratch 
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| Originally posted by varun Hehe, 'stealing' good kicks off tracks is way more time-saving than spending hours on making one from scratch |
I like it
powerful and clean sounding
I like it very much too! 
as clooney said, the tail sounds a bit weird. See if you can cut the tail a bit. Also, it sounds like you got some minor reverb on the kick? Maybe if you remove it, the sounds like be a bit crispier
Thanks, its weird how people say they don't like tails or that they're dated and then I find them randomly all throughout the vengeance sample packs.
Well the kick had reverb recorded over it and I couldn't get rid of the tail. The tail is very much a part of the low end region of the kick, and because thats the part I originally wanted the most, I can't really use the kick anymore. Even just getting rid of half the tail makes it sound funny.
I wound up making an entirely new kick. And it sounds like a hybrid between the kick I submitted and the kick subtle submitted. Its not so in your face anymore, no tail, but its much cleaner sounding, and much thumpier instead of a wall of mass slamming down all at once. But at the same time still hits harder than what subtle submitted. I'm gonna mess around with a bit more then maybe I'll upload it when I'm done if people wanna compare.
the vengeance pack has alot of the eubershcall content from the classic trance sample cd in like 2000. I mean the first 2 vengeance cds are pretty much the only ones worth having. Everything else is just those samples with some editing or fx. The tail is just too prominent. It has alot of bass and it would occur when your bass is playing. It sounds fine by itself but the second the boss comes in, it can be hard to get it sounding right. I think you just need to add some sort of envelope to the tail or even edit the kick in soundforge / wavelab and eq the tail so it isn't so in the way.
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| Originally posted by cryophonik That kick sounds good to me, Richard. One trick that I thought I had already mentioned here, but apparently didn't is to use a low-pass filter instead of (or in addition to) an EQ to shape your kick sound. You can get much more dramatic results this way. Insert a good filter plugin (e.g., Volcano 2, Filter Freak, FilterBank 3, etc.) directly into the kick channel (or kick buss, if you're layering several kicks by bussing) and set it to a low-pass filter setting. You might want to drop the channel level a few dB to start to avoid clipping. Start with a moderate slope and some resonance and experiment. Use the mix (dry/wet) settings to blend the original with the filtered kick. I find that it's not a good idea to go more than 60% wet because you'll lose the click etc. on the high end of the original sample. I tend to go somewhere between 70/30 - 50/50 (dry/wet). By boosting the cutoff frequency a few notches with the resonance setting and sweeping around the low end, trying different slope settings, etc. you can dramatically reshape the sound of the kick drum, add more punch, etc. |
Yes Rob, good kick mate.. has a lot of presence.. is there a sub bass in there or is that all mid? If there is you may need to work on it some more
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